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List Mgmt. Draft thread - 2025 (remaining picks: 29, 34)

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Live draft hand
R1: 1 (Duursma), 4 (CDT), 19 (Lindsay)
R2: 29, 34
RD: 1

Draft picks pre-draft
R1: 1, 2, 13
R2: 34, 41
RD: 1

List spots available
Main list: 2 (includes Duursma, CDT, Lindsay)
Cat A Rookie list: 1 (expecting Robertson, Macrae and Schoenberg to join as SSP signings)
Cat B Rookie list: 1

Draft order

Draft prospect video highlights (thanks to noobermensch)

Rookie Me Central 2025 Draft Guide


Matthew Clarke on Gettable 17/11


Cal Twomey’s Phantom Draft

 
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I keep hearing people say that Robey is explosive. I dont think he is. He is more bullocking in the form of Patrick Cripps. Hes got a big frame and forces his way out of traffic, but he doesnt seem to have the explosiveness people are talking about.
Maybe more powerful than explosive? I doubt he would be as slow as Cripps given he can play as a genuine mid sized forward and was getting games as a small forward/mid before his growth spurt.

But therein lies the link to guys like Petracca/De Goey that he plays midfield and can go forward to have a proper scoreboard impact. If we are talking explosiveness as in acceleration/speed then Petracca certainly didn’t show it either when HR9 torched him for GOTY 🔥
 
What would be massive overs for pick 1?
5,6&F1?
That would be good for us even if we had to include picks back the other way. We want to get kids in now but if the Bombers stink it up next year and it’s a stronger draft then it would look genius.
 
Just get Addinsall at 13, pretty obvious I would have thought. The gap in production between him and Sharp is minimal considering Addinsall’s work in the VFL.

Addinsall + CDT is a better combo than Sharp + player available at 13.

Anyone that disagrees knows very little.
 
As much as robey & cdt could be really good.
Sharp is the sensible option.Harley needs help now. not in a few years.in a few years he will be gone ,if still waiting to see change

with dovaston he does have a point of difference in his game that our other small forwards don’t have.

I’m new on here.read comments ,a lot i agree with some , i disagree with. just a question. when you comment are you picking for the now or for future.
 

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Why would we look at Dovaston if we already have Cripps, Owies, Long, Champion, Brockman, and Dewar as well as possibly having Tylah Williams this year and McGlade next year along with Robert Farmer.
The cupboard is bare for small forwards. If you're counting that first bunch then we're in trouble.
Champion maybe so thats 1 who might be there in 2 years.
Sure we've got what looks to be some talent coming through next year but at this stage dovaston looks better than all of them
 
Just get Addinsall at 13, pretty obvious I would have thought. The gap in production between him and Sharp is minimal considering Addinsall’s work in the VFL.

Addinsall + CDT is a better combo than Sharp + player available at 13.

Anyone that disagrees knows very little.
In 3 Coates League games this year Addinsall took the piss with an average of 32 disposals (13 contested), 5 marks, 4 tackles, 1.3 goals, 7.6 clearances.

I’d love for us to “reach” on him, he has fallen completely off the radar for whatever reason, but he’s a very good pure midfielder who has a balanced inside and outside game and will be coming from an elite situation where he’s already learned elite preparation.
 
In 3 Coates League games this year Addinsall took the piss with an average of 32 disposals (13 contested), 5 marks, 4 tackles, 1.3 goals, 7.6 clearances.

I’d love for us to “reach” on him, he has fallen completely off the radar for whatever reason, but he’s a very good pure midfielder who has a balanced inside and outside game and will be coming from an elite situation where he’s already learned elite preparation.
As well as 26D and 8cl against blokes that have played in the AFL, BOG in the futures game last year where all the best talents were playing.
 
He doesnt know much about the non vic teams in general, his views about most teams are a bit off imo but he seems to know about the draftees for the most part(mainly the vic ones, hes very vic focused)
Not a bad shout considering roughly 50% of draftees come form there and 55% of teams are based in vic. (Tasmania jr as well) The NEAFL folding made the VFL a lot more relevant as well.

Too bad the administration is just as biased
 
trades
  • Pick 13 + 34 For Carltons 9
  • Pick 2 + F3 for ESS 5 + 15 + 21

Draft
1 Duursma
5 Cumming
9 Sharp
15 Dovaston
21 Barker
Matched bid on Tylah Williams and maybe Banfield

U23s best 23
FB Ginbey, brock, hough
HB Duursma, Bazzo, Allen
C Davis, Reid, Barker
RR Barnett😭 Hewett, Sharp
HF Cumming, jobe, T.Williams
FF Dovaston, A,Reid, Dewar
I/C Gross, Hall, Maric, Greggo, Hutch
 
It was interesting to watch Gettable and I’ve come away thinking the Bombers will want to do the trade for 2 but we are reluctant. Always good to get more independent input on what is fair.

I can only see 3 targets at 2 for the Bombers. CDT, Robey or Sharp.

If we do the deal, the 3 options have very different implications.

1. Bombers take CDT at 2
Tigers respond with Robey at 3 and choose between XTaylor and Grlj at 4.
Eagles have both Sharp and Cumming. Simple. Don’t even think about it.

2. Bombers take Robey at 2
Tigers respond with XTaylor at 3 and Grlj at 4. The likelihood of a Dees offer for 4 increases. There is still an outside chance Tigers go for Cumming or Sharp at 4.
That would leave us with the ability to choose 2 from CDT, Cumming and Sharp. I would be ok taking CDT as we get one of Sharp or Cumming and we prioritise Banfield later.

3. Bombers take Sharp at 2
Tigers respond with Robey at 3 and choose between XTaylor and Grlj at 4. I doubt Dees may now make an offer for 4 targeting CDT. Would both XTaylor and Grlj be Available at 7+8? Tigers likely need to return a F2 to seal it. I doubt it.
Eagles get Cumming and CDT at 5+6. Simple - but prioritise Banfield.


The problem I have at 13 or 9 (if we trade up) is that none of Sharp, Cumming or Grlj will likely be there so we leave without addressing our midfield.


I still think any trade gets done after Eagles bid on Patterson and Uwland at 2. The idea of trading up for 4 with 7+8 (15 going back) feels less controversial. Once Bombers have the original pick 2, I see them bidding on both Annable and Dean. Doing it early means the Bombers original 21, 27 and 30 come in fast. They can do deals with the Suns 15+18 but the premium will be low.
Wise words.
I see a scenario where ESS want pick 2 and we want 5 & 6 and a F2nd back as a reasonable deal.
2 & 13 for 5 & 6 seems a bit short overall for WC and ESS should have more on the table imo.
Usually when you go shopping for something like pick swaps at the top end at least a 10% premium would be expected to be reasonable.
5 & 6 and a F2nd from ESS is about that if you rate their 2nd round pick around 25 and a little added for a future pick.
We must come way from this draft with midfielders of the highest order, they are Sharp and Cumming.

We then have Evans and Banfield as extra mids who can complement and add to our draft hand, Banfields best is a big bdied mid, Evans best is an explosive mid like Hewett and they both possess that X factor mid/fwd type.

Get most of our midfield sorted in 2025 with all the draft picks we have and see what progresses in the next 12 months to see what we need to add before Tassie draft.
 

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The main reason is it seems most clubs are reluctant to rob their Number 1 pick of the 10k bonus and the prestige of being Pick 1.
Personally I dont think it should come into consideration but recent years have shown this to be the case and with WCE not exactly known as the most ruthless club getting about, it is unlikely we break ranks and start bidding with the No1 pick.
We don't need to win a popularity contest.. to bid at 2 serves no purpose for us.. it's just a publicity stunt. The biggest chance to get one of the Gold coast boys is at one. Duursma or sharp wouldn't care if they get to run out with Patterson for the next 3 years.
 
Just get Addinsall at 13, pretty obvious I would have thought. The gap in production between him and Sharp is minimal considering Addinsall’s work in the VFL.

Addinsall + CDT is a better combo than Sharp + player available at 13.

Anyone that disagrees knows very little.

Addinsall can football and is a pig but he's a smaller low hurt factor type. Very much in that second group of mids.


Matt Rosa gets a statue at Lathlain if he does this.
 
As much as robey & cdt could be really good.
Sharp is the sensible option.Harley needs help now. not in a few years.in a few years he will be gone ,if still waiting to see change

with dovaston he does have a point of difference in his game that our other small forwards don’t have.

I’m new on here.read comments ,a lot i agree with some , i disagree with. just a question. when you comment are you picking for the now or for future.
Some people want immediate improvement, some plan for the future;
My thinking is that I’d say Sharp and Dursma; for example; are in our best 23.
But that would be a projected best not immediate best.
Draft and trade are about building a team for the future.
 
Any reason why it’s not pick 1? Outside chance at Patterson if we make GC use all their points and have to make a call.

Would also guarantee us Addinsall as alluded to above.

I do get a chortle at this board rating the forbidden fruit of Goldcoast higher than most.
 
Was listening to Dan Does Footy and they have Moch draft with guy Called Dylan Alexander. Not sure if he is just a nuffy but he seems to know a fair bit about the players.

He has WCE with Pick 1 - Will Dursma - Pick 2 WCE bid on Zeke Uland. Pick 3 WCE - Sharp and then our next pick Farrow.
Dylan regularly attends Talent League, trial and Champs matches and is pretty level-headed in his assessments.
Good to have someone attend the games to form his opinions.
 

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trades
  • Pick 13 + 34 For Carltons 9
  • Pick 2 + F3 for ESS 5 + 15 + 21

Draft
1 Duursma
5 Cumming
9 Sharp
15 Dovaston
21 Barker
Matched bid on Tylah Williams and maybe Banfield

U23s best 23
FB Ginbey, brock, hough
HB Duursma, Bazzo, Allen
C Davis, Reid, Barker
RR Barnett😭 Hewett, Sharp
HF Cumming, jobe, T.Williams
FF Dovaston, A,Reid, Dewar
I/C Gross, Hall, Maric, Greggo, Hutch
If only we had 157 open list spots to fill.
 
trades
  • Pick 13 + 34 For Carltons 9
  • Pick 2 + F3 for ESS 5 + 15 + 21

Draft
1 Duursma
5 Cumming
9 Sharp
15 Dovaston
21 Barker
Matched bid on Tylah Williams and maybe Banfield

U23s best 23
FB Ginbey, brock, hough
HB Duursma, Bazzo, Allen
C Davis, Reid, Barker
RR Barnett😭 Hewett, Sharp
HF Cumming, jobe, T.Williams
FF Dovaston, A,Reid, Dewar
I/C Gross, Hall, Maric, Greggo, Hutch
We aren't taking 5 in the draft, prior to matching NGA/FS.

We have 5 list spots
We want 3 top 10s and then 2 matching bids.

Also, there is no maybe for Banfield.
 
It wasn’t my original post that you replied to but as someone else mentioned it might be the previous kick around 1:35. He hardly looks like a ball butcher but there is a bit of a dinky ball drop, similar to Ginbey which catches him out occasionally but he has other weapons to make up for it.


Not sure it’s that strong of a correlation when less than half of those players played finals.
Matt Rowell and many other inside mids have worse looking ball drops than Sharp does - doesn’t trouble them too much.
 
I don't hate or laud any of the kids, but highlight packages are not supposed to show weaknesses in games. You could even find highlights of Priddis showing him burst from congestion and hit a target. They are so flawed when being used to assess talent.
Match highlights videos show every instance the player touches the ball or makes a tackle.
 
Zero hanger has our 2026 AFL List Size (Current)

Primary ListCategory A RookieCategory B RookieTotal
31. 5 2 38


So this suggests we haven't upgraded Maric and hutch.
 
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