List Mgmt. Draft thread - 2025 (remaining picks: 29, 34)

[Keys]

Live draft hand
R1: 1 (Duursma), 4 (CDT), 19 (Lindsay)
R2: 29, 34
RD: 1

Draft picks pre-draft
R1: 1, 2, 13
R2: 34, 41
RD: 1

List spots available
Main list: 2 (includes Duursma, CDT, Lindsay)
Cat A Rookie list: 1 (expecting Robertson, Macrae and Schoenberg to join as SSP signings)
Cat B Rookie list: 1

Draft order

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Rookie Me Central 2025 Draft Guide

2025 AFL Draft Guide

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Matthew Clarke on Gettable 17/11

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Cal Twomey’s Phantom Draft

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[mitchzz]

Class of 2025: Skipper Sharp leads SA charge, ‘Hornet' qualities

Get to know Larke medallist Dyson Sharp ahead of the 2025 Telstra AFL Draft

www.afl.com.au

He definitely sounds sick so no porkies from his end

(Assuming that was filmed during the combine)

 

[Obeanie1]

Yes I think that's the worst midfield in the comp. I also think it's extremely unlikely Harley is still here if that's our midfield.

Well considering thats 5 drafts and trade periods away Im sure we will find at least one more A grade mid over all those drafts and trade periods.

Now you throw in "Harley wont be here" just shows a lack of positive forward thinking. If nothing works and Harley leaves and we dont draft any decent mids over the next 5 years then yes. You are correct. We will have the worst midfield in the comp.

Presume you assume every other teams midfields play forever and every other side drafts the best mids and we dont even with top 5 picks.

 

[Obeanie1]

Saints supporter mate reckons they will throw their F1 at everyone until Phillipou is off the board.

If we keep 2, can't get 13 up to 9, I'd be keen. Would mean we have slots for Williams, Banfield and Evans if required, or could take a slider at 34

If we can split 2 plus ? into 5 and 6 then sure.

Likely need 13 to get 5 and 6 though.

 

[txbyhull]

Presume you assume every other teams midfields play forever and every other side drafts the best mids and we dont even with top 5 picks.

Somehow this isn’t the most ridiculous thing I’ve read on BF lately

 

[txbyhull]

If we can split 2 plus ? into 5 and 6 then sure.

Likely need 13 to get 5 and 6 though.

If Dovaston is off the board I’m off the opinion there’s no one that good available at 13 anyways

 

[Keys]

Saints supporter mate reckons they will throw their F1 at everyone until Phillipou is off the board.

If we keep 2, can't get 13 up to 9, I'd be keen. Would mean we have slots for Williams, Banfield and Evans if required, or could take a slider at 34

If we don’t get pick 9 off Carlton then ideally Hawthorn bite and take the Saints F1. They’d be a chance too - openly said during trade period it was on the table when they were trying to pressure Essendon into doing the Merrett trade. And they’ll want draft capital next year to chase Butters or have another crack at Merrett

Alternately, if Essendon get 15 off Gold Coast and flip that into the Saints F1 then pick 2 for 5, Saints F1 and some steak knives has appeal

Problem there is the saints won’t know if Phillipou will still be on the board at that point

 

[Obeanie1]

Somehow this isn’t the most ridiculous thing I’ve read on BF lately

It's how some people think.

They see our young midfield being crap even after 5 years development and additions.

The negative nancies rarely allow that other teams midfields get older, retire or regress. Especially when they don't have top picks to replenish lost stars.

 

[Obeanie1]

If Dovaston is off the board I’m off the opinion there’s no one that good available at 13 anyways

You are wrong about no-one that good at 13....16.

When was Shanahan taken?

 

[txbyhull]

You are wrong about no-one that good at 13....16.

When was Shanahan taken?

Shanahan would be the best KPF in this class mate… he was ranked top 15-20 for a lot of last year in a much better class and just slid when the draft came. Don’t think you’ve really made the point you want to here

 

[txbyhull]

You are wrong about no-one that good at 13....16.

When was Shanahan taken?

The only players likely still available that I’d want us to even consider would be Barker, Oskar Taylor, and Dovaston

 

[eaglevision]

The only players likely still available that I’d want us to even consider would be Barker, Oskar Taylor, and Dovaston

Don't get too sucked in by Oskar's testing. He's a fine player but personally wouldn't group him with Dovaston or the other kids around pick 13. In saying that it only takes one club to bite early, I just hope it's not us. Barker and Phillipou would be better upside picks in my view.

 

[Barrybran]

The only players likely still available that I’d want us to even consider would be Barker, Oskar Taylor, and Dovaston

There's a strong chance that three of those four are still available at 13. And if they're not available, multiple players have slid.

 

[txbyhull]

There's a strong chance that three of those four are still available at 13. And if they're not available, multiple players have slid.

Possibly, the only players I would take if they slid before those 3 would be Sharp, Cumming, or Grlj and I see that chance as being slim to none

 

[txbyhull]

Don't get too sucked in by Oskar's testing. He's a fine player but personally wouldn't group him with Dovaston or the other kids around pick 13. In saying that it only takes one club to bite early, I just hope it's not us. Barker and Phillipou would be better upside picks in my view.

I quite like Taylor’s mix of athleticism and foot skills. Think he’s up there probably in the lower top tier of this class when it comes to use by foot, especially given he’s usually hauling ass. At worst I think he’d do well to learn from McCarthy and become that composed distributor and at best he can push into the midfield and we’ve got a fleet-footed ball user that stacks up with the very best. Would heavily rely on an improved contested game but I’m applying the same logic people have been using with our existing midfielders for that

 

[Obeanie1]

Shanahan would be the best KPF in this class mate… he was ranked top 15-20 for a lot of last year in a much better class and just slid when the draft came. Don’t think you’ve really made the point you want to here

You obviously haven't done much research on who is available around that pick.

And loling at my post doesn't make you look smarter either.

13 to 16 lands the 1st or 2nd best KP forwards, rucks or defenders.

The gun mids go early. Then a tall or two then quality outside mids / half-backs.

13 to 16 gets a surprise slider or a quality defender, ruck or KP forward.

Saying there are no decent players around those picks is showing you don't do your research.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

Saying there are no decent players around those picks is showing you don't do your research.

I think it's weird how many people have written off this draft class.

How many times in the past have supposed 'super drafts' turned out to be average? No reason why it can't happen in reverse.

 

[txbyhull]

You obviously haven't done much research on who is available around that pick.

And loling at my post doesn't make you look smarter either.

13 to 16 lands the 1st or 2nd best KP forwards, rucks or defenders.

The gun mids go early. Then a tall or two then quality outside mids / half-backs.

13 to 16 gets a surprise slider or a quality defender, ruck or KP forward.

Saying there are no decent players around those picks is showing you don't do your research.

Holy condescending Batman.

The players I have ranked in the following 10 positions where the pick is likely to fall:

Dovaston
Oskar Taylor
Schubert - Don’t need since likely drafting CDT
Farrow - Rate lower than O Taylor, likely off board
Barker
Marsh - Don’t need
Phillipou - Could pick, would rather take F1 from STK
Hibbens-Hargreaves - Could pick, concerns on how we’d be able to develop him.
Lindsay - don’t rate him at all, only a great kick offers nothing else at AFL standard
Thredgold - insane reach

 

[txbyhull]

You obviously haven't done much research on who is available around that pick.

lol

And loling at my post doesn't make you look smarter either.

Wow!

13 to 16 lands the 1st or 2nd best KP forwards, rucks or defenders.

Chance Schubert may be off the board already, but we also have no need for a KPF if we draft CDT, or a ruck, and there’s much higher quality KPD of genuine size next year in Stirling and Mathews-Hampton. I don’t see Thredgold as being much more than a C grade AFL third tall if he doesn’t grow. If he was a 197+ then absolutely he’d be a fantastic lock down tall, but he’s not.

The gun mids go early. Then a tall or two then quality outside mids / half-backs.

13 to 16 gets a surprise slider or a quality defender, ruck or KP forward.

You’ve just said the same thing twice mate

Saying there are no decent players around those picks is showing you don't do your research.

I said there’s no one “that good” which I find to be mostly true. A lot of this mid to late teens class would be bonafide second rounders in the last 2 years and next year. I hope that there’s some hidden gems definitely, but at the time of the draft that’s just not how it projects. I’d much rather an F1 and guarantee Williams, Banfield AND Evans / a late slider like a Rodriguez or a Curtin. I think in the aggregate that’s just a better result than some of these guys

 

[Schtinker]

Holy condescending Batman.

The players I have ranked in the following 10 positions where the pick is likely to fall:

Dovaston
Oskar Taylor
Schubert - Don’t need since likely drafting CDT
Farrow - Rate lower than O Taylor, likely off board
Barker
Marsh - Don’t need
Phillipou - Could pick, would rather take F1 from STK
Hibbens-Hargreaves - Could pick, concerns on how we’d be able to develop him.
Lindsay - don’t rate him at all, only a great kick offers nothing else at AFL standard
Thredgold - insane reach

I'm taking Schubert if he's there whether he's a need or not.

 

[txbyhull]

I think it's weird how many people have written off this draft class.

How many times in the past have supposed 'super drafts' turned out to be average? No reason why it can't happen in reverse.

Absolutely, but draft watchers can’t do much more than base their thoughts off what they’re given. Hindsight is a powerful thing. I love footy, obviously I’d love for this class to turn out to be amazing. I’m not sitting here hoping they’re shit, I am just going off what I can gather

 

[Obeanie1]

I think it's weird how many people have written off this draft class.

How many times in the past have supposed 'super drafts' turned out to be average? No reason why it can't happen in reverse.

Agrred. Every draft a quality player slides.

 

[isthiswhereitype]

I think that a lot of club's draft departments are basically a lot like this thread, where they get so deep in the weeds with their circular arguments that they end up trading a future first for the wrong Whitlock brother.

 

[kranky al]

Sheezel, Bailey Smith, Perkins off the top of my head in recent years.

VIC kids do it to a small bit of notice taken.

Interstate kids do it to the opprobrium of the VFL media

 

[kranky al]

It's how some people think.

They see our young midfield being crap even after 5 years development and additions.

The negative nancies rarely allow that other teams midfields get older, retire or regress. Especially when they don't have top picks to replenish lost stars.

In fairness we haven’t had a lot of success picking and developing mids the last 18 or so years.

Shuey, Reid….. crickets……


We’ve had to poach to get the likes of yeo and redden.

 

[eagles rule]

VIC kids do it to a small bit of notice taken.

Interstate kids do it to the opprobrium of the VFL media

I haven`t heard that word for a while professor..