List Mgmt. Draft thread - 2025 (remaining picks: 29, 34)

[Keys]

Live draft hand
R1: 1 (Duursma), 4 (CDT), 19 (Lindsay)
R2: 29, 34
RD: 1

Draft picks pre-draft
R1: 1, 2, 13
R2: 34, 41
RD: 1

List spots available
Main list: 2 (includes Duursma, CDT, Lindsay)
Cat A Rookie list: 1 (expecting Robertson, Macrae and Schoenberg to join as SSP signings)
Cat B Rookie list: 1

Draft order

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Draft prospect video highlights (thanks to noobermensch)

Rookie Me Central 2025 Draft Guide

2025 AFL Draft Guide

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Matthew Clarke on Gettable 17/11

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Cal Twomey’s Phantom Draft

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[daddy_4_eyes]

Is do this but move on 15 for a 2026 1st round pick with another club.

That's not going to happen

If Jevan Phillipou is still there at our pick 13, would love to see Adelaide & St Kilda trading their F1 for our 13. Both clubs would have finals aspirations for 2026, banking on their R1 being very late.

Leaves us with Duursma, CDT, Williams, Banfield & Evans.
Also opens the door for a Rodriguez/Swadling/Pickett or other at 34 if a bid on one of our guys doesn't come.

 

[bzparkes]

I don't get the Jagga Smith hype. Bloke is built like a twig and he's body failed in his first pre-season. He's up against it to have a successful career.

What does he project to at best? A heavily outside high accumulator? Is that worth pick 3 in a strong draft? Duursma should at least be able to win his own ball.

Well, he did his knee in a hard tackle that twisted it the wrong way, not really his fault.

A very slippery customer who dominated as an inside mid at VFL level.

Having said that, he took his entire draft year off school and is still, as you said, built like a twig.

Concern would be if he can actually put on size and will that affect his current game?

 

[bzparkes]

**** you wce I won't he tuning in to draft day. I dont like the tide of where this is all going. The club is in continual shambles. You ruined a transformative moment for the club.

Do you reckon a bloke with this kind of write up is pick 1/2 worthy?

There has been a great deal of speculation over where Dyson Sharp will be picked up on draft day. The smooth moving midfielder put in a fantastic series of performances during the Under 18 Championships, culminating in him being awarded the Larke Medal for the best player in division one. While his form has been fantastic this year there are whispers that he will fall much lower than many phantom drafters have him projecting, due to a lack of speed and a tendency to be one paced. This isn’t a major problem as he rarely gets caught but he doesn’t have the explosiveness to break away from the contest.

 

[PRANKSTER666]

A trade with Carlton for pick 9 will only happen live come the pick.

We really just need the option to trade for the pick if the player we want is still available with the guarantee we don't bid on Dean.

Doubt Carlton would be blackmailed into that arrangement and will call our bluff, knowing we are Mr Nice Guy.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

I don't want to turn into Hawthorn, but are there any kids with a bit of kent in them to fly the flag with Harley?

From what little I've seen of Curtin (the Colts GF) he fits the bill, but I want to pair Harley up with a bash brother, I want us to rock a hard as nails midfield that hurts the opposition

 

[pantskyle]

If Jevan Phillipou is still there at our pick 13, would love to see Adelaide & St Kilda trading their F1 for our 13. Both clubs would have finals aspirations for 2026, banking on their R1 being very late.

Leaves us with Duursma, CDT, Williams, Banfield & Evans.
Also opens the door for a Rodriguez/Swadling/Pickett or other at 34 if a bid on one of our guys doesn't come.

I wouldn't have any interest in Adelaides F1, they finished top this year so presume top 4 for them, that's a loss for us as a trade. Saints have gone hard and will also be pushing for finals and top 6 if it clicks. No value in doing that trade.

Pick 13 is still going to be a very good kid to take, we won't trade it for a F1 unless we are very confident that would be a top 10 pick and even then we're way more likely to just hit the draft with it this year (or upgrade it this year).

 

[Cromulent]

Delisted crow Harry Schoenberg coming your way- rejected a date from a friend of mine because he's "moving to Perth pretty soon"

 

[random260]

Im not sure how people are so honky dory about the prospect of Clay Hall being a cog for us on the inside. Clays Hall chasing tail defensively is more liable then ainsworth kicking.

Literally the biggest liability I have ever seen. One doesn't simply improve in not chasing tail

Delisted crow Harry Schoenberg coming your way- rejected a date from a friend of mine because he's "moving to Perth pretty soon"

Wonderful we intend to fill the inside mid spot with Greg Clarks. If you collect them all one of them is bound to be good is the dumbass logic of the club

 

[Barrybran]

I don't get the Jagga Smith hype. Bloke is built like a twig and his body failed in his first pre-season. He's up against it to have a successful career.

What does he project to at best? A heavily outside high accumulator? Is that worth pick 3 in a strong draft? Duursma should at least be able to win his own ball.

18 year olds entering a professional system tend to build muscle mass and most AFL careers last longer than one season. I thought he was the best player in that draft and Carlton did well to get pick 3 from us to take him. He'll likely start outside given they have Cripps, Walsh and Hewett but he'll find his way into that group pretty quickly. Duursma isn't an inside mid and will likely take longer to get there.

 

[bzparkes]

Im not sure how people are so honky dory about tbe prospect of Clay Hall being a cog for us on the inside. Clays Hall chasing tail defensively is more liable then ainsworth kicking.

Literally the biggest liability I have ever seen. One doesn't simply improve in not chasing tail

Hall's fine at the contest, it's the breakaway speed that's the problem. Same as Sharp.

Hall's clearly worked on his aerobic capacity over the offseason though, hence him coming second in the MAS test on Monday.

Blowing up due to being unfit was probably his biggest issue this year.

Top 10 u16 in agility. Where's the complaint on Harvey Langford or Robby God awful testing

Who gives a shit about u16 testing, other than Rohan O'Brien?

Oh, makes sense why he's linked heavily to Essendon now...

Jesus's christ. If you didn't want Dyson Sharp all you ****ing needed to do was SID ****ing Draper.... its not that hard

Until Draper does something useful in an AFL game, it'll be of no consequence.

We are looking at the prospect of splitting dougie Coch for a mid because of our awful moves. When that happens well no words.

Are we? You appear to have made yet another thing up in your own mind over nothing.

We also are very unlikely to have any access to Cochrane either, due to Port getting him added tot heir NGA or other clubs finishing below us.

I feel we'll be above Richmond and Essendon at least next year.


Also, that write up wasn't actually for Dyson Sharp btw, it was for a player with the same initials though.

Dom Sheed.

Would someone with an almost identical profile be worth pick 1/2?

 

[Barrybran]

I don't want to turn into Hawthorn, but are there any kids with a bit of kent in them to fly the flag with Harley?

Grlj. Maybe more terrier than kent but he is definitely in the Baker mould.

 

[woosha24]

I don't want to turn into Hawthorn, but are there any kids with a bit of kent in them to fly the flag with Harley?

Turning into Hawthorn wouldnt be the worst thing in the world, especially with where we are now. They did win 3 flags with the cruntiest bunch of campaigners going around 10 years ago.

I wouldnt exactly hate a a few more blokes in the side with Harley's "f*ck you, get out my way" attitude to the opposition, thats for sure.

 

[ghostbat12]

We're talking in the context of Naitanui coaching and his ruck advice being kind of useless when advising orthodox ruck talents like Duff-Tytler.

I've long been critical of CDT being described as a unicorn, and he's been positively compared to Luke Jackson and even somehow Jeremy Cameron. But any comparison to Naitanui taken out of context is obviously a step too far?

Have strong mail that are doing some stem cell work on a new Naitanui arm and looking for ways to attach it to CDT.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Turning into Hawthorn wouldnt be the worst thing in the world, especially with where we are now. They did win 3 flags with the cruntiest bunch of campaigners going around 10 years ago.

I wouldnt exactly hate a a few more blokes in the side with Harley's "f*ck you, get out my way" attitude to the opposition, thats for sure.

I'd prefer the Brisbane threepeat side model. Aker a different type of kent but I don't remember Vossy or Brown etc being punchable w***ers the way the current Hawthorn team is, just tough bastards like our own Beau Waters.

 

[Doashuey]

Preemptive melts are the best kind of melts.
Reckon old Random might actually have an aneurysm by draft day if this current projection stays linear.

 

[bzparkes]

Preemptive melts are the best kind of melts.
Reckon old Random might actually have an aneurysm by draft day if this current projection stays linear.

First Draper, now Sharp...

 

[kane249]

Delisted crow Harry Schoenberg coming your way- rejected a date from a friend of mine because he's "moving to Perth pretty soon"

It's ok, you friend might get another date in the SSP if they are willing to be a train on player

 

[ghostbat12]

TLDR - a 6th selection in the main draft is going to be superior to a rookie draft selection with the only difference being a 2 year v 1 year contract

But I think that is the issue at hand. we would be dishing 2yr contracts to players that in other drafts would be rookie players. It really is a list management issue where in 2026 you may be needing to delist players that are then still tracking better than these NGAs.

Do agree on Cripps although maybe we made the decision that we only rate two of NGA players and if there are bids for rest, we shall pass.

 

[kane249]

Harry Schoenberg Draft Profile

DRAFT ANALYSIS: "A strong and hard working inside midfielder who is a classy ball user, who excels in clearance work and is a high possession winner."

central.rookieme.com

 

[Doashuey]

Harry Schoenberg Draft Profile

DRAFT ANALYSIS: "A strong and hard working inside midfielder who is a classy ball user, who excels in clearance work and is a high possession winner."

central.rookieme.com

If we dont select this guy with our 3rd selection then the whole board needs to be sacked immediately!

Y'know what, F*** this!, Dom Puke and his bunch of cronies have already screwed up this draft, I wont be watching it and will be moving my allegiances SKP Fryek-Mistek in the Czech European Handball Liga.

 

[kane249]

If we dont select this guy with our 3rd selection then the whole board needs to be sacked immediately!

If it's one of our extra rookie picks that's ok

Though if it's in addition to Robertson and Macrae the downside to that is it's going to be harder for younger inside mids to get time in the middle in the WAFL potentially

 

[Barrybran]

Delisted crow Harry Schoenberg coming your way- rejected a date from a friend of mine because he's "moving to Perth pretty soon"

Meanwhile, Mtch Cleary has just set up a fake Tinder profile

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

If it's one of our extra rookie picks that's ok

Though if it's in addition to Robertson and Macrae the downside to that is it's going to be harder for younger inside mids to get time in the middle in the WAFL potentially

You seen our WAFL side?

Most likely means that a couple of ammos miss out.

 

[maxrm]

Insights from Twomey's latest phantom form guide.

Top end:
Open draft top 8 locks are Duursma, CDT, Robey, Taylor, and almost definitely Cumming...
But not Sharp who was even linked to our Pick #13 if he gets past Essendon and Hawthorn (crucially, Melbourne not mentioned), nor Grlj who was linked to GWS. Schubert a chance to go into the 20s if Bombers don't snap him up. Farrow not linked to us directly but has interest from Bombers, Dees, Hawks, and Giants so sliding to our third pick very unlikely unless we trade up to #9.

Beyond that:
Lindsay's starting point is Hawks pick.
Dovaston only linked to Melbourne as far as the higher picks are concerned but even that is considered "a bit early." Would be stoked to land him at #9 but perhaps #13 is a better chance than anticipated.
No link between us and Pickett.
NHH not linked to any higher picks.
Addinsall a possibility for us, do we bid early on Uwland and Patterson so that we can snap him up at #13?

My best guess at this stage:
WC Duursma
WC CDT
RICH Robey
RICH Taylor
ESS Cumming
ESS Farrow
MELB Grlj
MELB Dovaston/Pickett
WCE (if we trade up) Sharp

Yep, that's right, we're getting Duursma, CDT and Sharp. In all honesty, I think this is very possible, I can't see Melbourne selecting Sharp after taking Langford last year and I feel Richmond like him but not as much as other options at the pointy end, so it all hinges on whether or not Essendon snap him up but I suspect they'll prioritise Cumming and there's every chance they pick Farrow, Schubert, Grlj etc. before Sharp with #6.

 

[daddy_4_eyes]

I wouldn't have any interest in Adelaides F1, they finished top this year so presume top 4 for them, that's a loss for us as a trade. Saints have gone hard and will also be pushing for finals and top 6 if it clicks. No value in doing that trade.

Pick 13 is still going to be a very good kid to take, we won't trade it for a F1 unless we are very confident that would be a top 10 pick and even then we're way more likely to just hit the draft with it this year (or upgrade it this year).

I'd bank on at least one of them not living up to expectations next year, particularly St Kilda a good chance to miss finals and have a top 10 pick.

For all their signings, I don't think they stack up against the top 8 teams and I have a hard time seeing them leapfrog Bulldogs & Swans into the top 10, let alone top 8.