Draft/Trade

[nicko016]

Who should we look at in the Draft in Trade. I'd look at Leunberger and Riewodlt for our first pick and then some quick midfielders.

There's a few players I reckon we could target in trade week. I'm not sure about there contracts though but for most our second round draft pick (27) and a fringe player might do. These players would be:

M Seaby, D Hale, B Reilly, K Simpson, A Bentick, S Dodd, J Kelly, S Salopek, N Malceski, S Butler, M Rosa.

Most are quickish midfielders who could develop into good players and would add to our depth.

 

[Jeremias]

Interesting to see you are interested in Simpson and Bentick.

What would you be willing to give up for each of them?

Keep in mind that Simpson is virtually untradeable, so it would have to be something very good.

Also interesting to see you mention Bentick-wouldn't have thought many would be interested in him-doesn't do the spectacular, surprised he has caught your eye. Very solid player.

 

[borderbarry]

I would suggest we would need one ruck, one big defender, and the rest quick mid-fielders. De-list or trade either Blake or Ackland, Powell has retired, Peckett should, and we should de-list or trade 3 or 4 of Murray, McGough, Fiora, maybe Raymond who cant seem to get a game for Scorps Seniors, Schwartz. We dont need to be recruiting any more than 5 or 6. Maybe promote Pfitzner, recruit a ruckman, a large defender, and 3 mid-fielders. I would like one of them at least to be a fast a aboriginal player.
Anyone agree with this?

 

[Qsaint]

We must keep our first and second pick in a bumper draft so that leaves us with late picks and dud or old players (assuming no one wants out). We aren't going to trade for much.

 

[The Punter]

Who should we look at in the Draft in Trade. I'd look at Leunberger and Riewoldt for our first pick and then some quick midfielders.

There's a few players I reckon we could target in trade week. I'm not sure about there contracts though but for most our second round draft pick (27) and a fringe player might do. These players would be:

M Seaby, D Hale, B Reilly, K Simpson, A Bentick, S Dodd, J Kelly, S Salopek, N Malceski, S Butler, M Rosa.

Most are quickish midfielders who could develop into good players and would add to our depth.

I think we should be going after midfielders full stop. We have defenders, just Gilbert needs some more muscle and Maguire got injured. Remember Andy Kellaway is on the market and could be good value for a couple of years as a hard-working, honest defender.

Of the possible trade targets, obviously ruckmen are prevalent. Seaby isn't much chop, but Hale would be interesting but difficult to get. Carlton are very unlikely to let Simpson or Bentick go for anything. Salopek has just cemented his spot in a young, exciting Power team, and the same with Malceski, Butler and Rosa. James Kelly is not quick, and that is our deficiency. Don't know much about Reilly, but apparently Sheedy is keen on him.

 

[nicko016]

Interesting to see you are interested in Simpson and Bentick.

What would you be willing to give up for each of them?

Keep in mind that Simpson is virtually untradeable, so it would have to be something very good.

Also interesting to see you mention Bentick-wouldn't have thought many would be interested in him-doesn't do the spectacular, surprised he has caught your eye. Very solid player.

To tell you the truth, I haven't actually seen him that much of Bentick but have read that he is quick. However, his stats have him third in 1st possesions at Carlton, 3rd for clearances and 1st for contested possessions at Carlton. This shows that he is very good in the contested stuff. The best midfielders are those who are both quick and good in the contested stuff and he has both of these attributes. The best examples are Judd and Burgoyne. You would have seen him more so is this a fair assessment?

As for what we give up I don't think we could give up enough for Simpson, but he would fit us nicely. Would our 2nd round pick (27 I think) and say Ackland or Ferguson cut it?

 

[Kouta_legend]

pick 27 + a hack, id rather keep our future captain in simpson

 

[Warwick]

You have to trade quality to get quality. You can't expect Carlton or any other teams to trade their good players for an average pick and some spare parts.

 

[Jimthegreat]

To tell you the truth, I haven't actually seen him that much of Bentick but have read that he is quick. However, his stats have him third in 1st possesions at Carlton, 3rd for clearances and 1st for contested possessions at Carlton. This shows that he is very good in the contested stuff. The best midfielders are those who are both quick and good in the contested stuff and he has both of these attributes. The best examples are Judd and Burgoyne. You would have seen him more so is this a fair assessment?

As for what we give up I don't think we could give up enough for Simpson, but he would fit us nicely. Would our 2nd round pick (27 I think) and say Ackland or Ferguson cut it?

No. In my "expert" opinion sitting here on my couch I'd say that Simmo's is close to untouchable, unless of course he's out of contract and walks.

You're almost right on Bentick except he isn't quick. Plays more a Brett Ratten/Sam Mitchell role. Be nice if he turned out as good.

 

[Kildonan]

Bentick is a player of similar ilk to Powell and McGough.
They don't look pretty, but they're vital in making the highly skilled midfielders look good. They do a lot of the in and under work, gain first possessions and give the ball off or tie it up. Frequently get a few tackles as well.

This type of player often doesn't get the time to get disposals away cleanly so are dogged by claims of poor disposal.

 

[mark73]

Hale would be interesting but difficult to get.

You're not wrong.He would be difficult to get for a few reasons.The amount of investment that has gone into him given he is a player the club has built/is building, and the fact that for a ruckman, he is still only a baby but already a valuable player, you'd have to give up a bit.Added to that, the Kangaroos would know that Hale could solve a few problems for St.Kilda,and that even on its own would force them to play hardball.My thoughts are that it could be done, but I doubt St.Kilda would come to the party, and for that, and the fact we are talking about a future star, North wouldn't either.

You'd have to give up something like a straight swap for a top tier (ie - a Dal Santo), or a mid range pick (somewhere in the vicinity of a 20's - early 30's), and a mid range player (ie - a Montagna etc).Since the Roos would be fixing what is a gaping hole at St.Kilda, they'd be expecting the same in return and although we have class acts like Smith and McConnell coming through, a (top line) outside midfielder would be the go.

 

[nicko016]

I didn't really think pick 27 and a player such as Ferguson would do for Simpson but I thought it might do for Bentick. However, I thought he was quick and given that he isn't I porbably wouldn't want him any way. What we need is a quick player who can play in the centre square. We already have Montagna who is going to be a star but he isn't really suited to the centre square. We need a quick player who is going to be able to use their pace out of centre clearances. At the moment we have fairly one-paced midfielders inside the centre square. Any ideas on who we could get?

 

[Premiership Quarter]

I think pick 27 would be sufficient for Bentick..No player needed. Win win for both clubs.

 

[Jeremias]

I think pick 27 would be sufficient for Bentick..No player needed. Win win for both clubs.

Yeah I would probably do that.

Bentick shows he will be ok, just gives 110% all the time. Great tackler as well. But he is slow, and I think that Blackwell will overtake him. Having said that, would like to keep him as I think he can add something to the team.

Pick 27 in this draft especially, could still get us a very good player. Would be a good player for us.

Would you Saints be interested in Carrazzo?

 

[nicko016]

Yeah I would probably do that.

Bentick shows he will be ok, just gives 110% all the time. Great tackler as well. But he is slow, and I think that Blackwell will overtake him. Having said that, would like to keep him as I think he can add something to the team.

Pick 27 in this draft especially, could still get us a very good player. Would be a good player for us.

Would you Saints be interested in Carrazzo?

Maybe. Is he very quick and can he play in the centre square? Because in my opinion we need someone quick who can play in the centre square and give us some dash out of centre clearances.

 

[Jeremias]

Maybe. Is he very quick and can he play in the centre square? Because in my opinion we need someone quick who can play in the centre square and give us some dash out of centre clearances.

He certainly isn't the fastest going around, but having said that he does have quite good pace. Can play anywhere, really. Small/medium defender, midfielder or defensive forward. Disposal is poor, however. Has absolutely no trouble in finding the ball.

Would be a good pickup for any team, valuable, and would certainly look very good with better players around him.

 

[mad-saint-guy]

We won't trade either of our first two picks. In fact I doubt that we will trade at all.

Draft
Pick 9 - Albert Proud, Joel Selwood, Thomas Hislop
Pick 27 - Gavin Uquart, other pacey midfielders/HFF'ers
3rd-Round pick: If there is a decent ruckman/KPP available we'll go for him otherwise we'll just draft more midfielders
4th-round pick: That kid that plays in Stewie Loewe's team that won the league B&F (is a ruckman, great skills, great mark, good pace, only been playing for a couple of years)
5th-round pick: JB's smokey

 

[mad-saint-guy]

He certainly isn't the fastest going around, but having said that he does have quite good pace. Can play anywhere, really. Small/medium defender, midfielder or defensive forward. Disposal is poor, however. Has absolutely no trouble in finding the ball.

Would be a good pickup for any team, valuable, and would certainly look very good with better players around him.

Third Round pick? Would he be able to play on and negate the Wirrpanda/Johncock/Gilbee types while kicking a couple of goals? What's his endurance like?

 

[mad-saint-guy]

I think pick 27 would be sufficient for Bentick..No player needed. Win win for both clubs.

We won't trade either of our first two picks. Pacey midfielders needed.

 

[Jeremias]

Third Round pick? Would he be able to play on and negate the Wirrpanda/Johncock/Gilbee types while kicking a couple of goals? What's his endurance like?

What pick is your 3rd rounder?

He would be able to play on them, and he would put pressure on them to keep it in the 50. Hasn't got a good kick so whether he would kick goals is debatable. But he would be able to supply the other forwards. But I think he is more suited to a midfield role, even running out of the back pocket, will provide quite a bit of drive. Played forward only once I think, was against Hawks and played on Guerra. Certainly kept him quiter, and created a lot of opportunities. But kicked 1 goal 3 or 4, so kicking isn't so good. But certainly worried the defenders with his pressure, which would keep the ball in the 50 zone for a while.

Endurance is pretty good.

 

[mad-saint-guy]

What pick is your 3rd rounder?

Pick 43 I think. If we could get him for that I'd be interested.

 

[Jeremias]

Pick 43 I think. If we could get him for that I'd be interested.

That pick is too low. You would either need to trade for a better pick, or offer us a player on top of the pick. There is no way we would trade Carrazzo for pick 43.

 

[Smell The Glove]

Wouldnt mind Rix for Carazzo, but I doubt you guys would go for that, would you? Carrazzo would be worth a pick around 30-40, I reckon, more likely the lower end of that. Having said that, not sure if I would want to trade him.

 

[evertonfc]

Some reasonable trade talk here - good to see it's coming with a minimun of slander.

Bentick and Carrazzo don't interest me enough to think about parting with anything better than a 3rd round pick. Certainly, that wouldn't be enough for Carlton - they could snaffle better deals elsewhere.

I wouldn't mind trading one of Ferguson, Brooks, Blake, Rix or Ackland for the right price. I'd even do Sam Fisher if it was a pearler of a deal.

 

[Kildonan]

Carazzo would be a good pick up but I doubt that we will make any trades on that level. Our only likely trade would be for a good ruckman.
I think Brooks and Kosi may be our first two ruck choices, Ackland remains servicable and Rix is good backup.

We will most likely return to our youth policy. Sticking to draftees in the national draft and improving out utilisation of the rookie draft.