Drop Carrazzo thread

[WeninRome]

Please Ratts drop him next week and bring in phiffer.

Does anyone else cringe when Carrots gets the ball? He is too slow and unaccountable. Gray smashed him last night. His use of the ball is terrible and is a real weaklink in our team.

I think we need to drop him for either Phyff or ando.

what does everyone else think?

 

[Murphinator]

Regardless, it is quite hard to replace 25+ possessions on a weekly basis.

 

[Benny_]

Do you really think Gray killed him, with his 9 touches and 1 goal?

 

[CarltonFan]

carrots may have bad disposal, but at least he runs and runs and runs and is hard at it. so many times yesterday he was there to help out our defenders getting the ball out of defence. without him our backline would not have looked as good as it did imo.



would much prefer carrazo over heath 'nancy boy' scotland

 

[WeninRome]

Do you really think Gray killed him, with his 9 touches and 1 goal?

If it had been a better player it would have hurt us more. Carrazzo was constantly 5 meters behind gray on the lead. He got smashed in his accountability for him.

If Gray had slotted that goal with about 10 to go it may have been a different story.

 

[WeninRome]

Regardless, it is quite hard to replace 25+ possessions on a weekly basis.

and what exactly does he do with the 25 possessions?

I would much rather an accountable back pocket in the team. He is not good enough to play in our midfield.

 

[WeninRome]

carrots may have bad disposal, but at least he runs and runs and runs and is hard at it. so many times yesterday he was there to help out our defenders getting the ball out of defence. without him our backline would not have looked as good as it did imo.



would much prefer carrazo over heath 'nancy boy' scotland

He was there to help because he was playing in the back pocket on Gray, and where was Gray at the time? not with Carrots, which means he was loose somewhere.

 

[CarltonFan]

He was there to help because he was playing in the back pocket on Gray, and where was Gray at the time? not with Carrots, which means he was loose somewhere.

so when we are trying to clear the ball out from defence you actually want carrazzo to man up and not leave gray loose somewhere?

 

[WeninRome]

so when we are trying to clear the ball out from defence you actually want carrazzo to man up and not leave gray loose somewhere?

I don't want Carrazzo to deliver the ball full stop. As a backman he is way too loose.

As long as him and Scotland are in our side we will not play finals.

 

[Blue Dimension]

Carrazzo won't be dropped. Too important. We'll need him next week especially against the Pies.

 

[WeninRome]

Carrazzo won't be dropped. Too important. We'll need him next week especially against the Pies.

How is important? He constantly turns the ball over and is slow and un accountable.
I think Joey Anderson could do a much better job, its time we started to give him and Benji a go to see if they can make it or not

 

[BlueBelle]

In our current line-up, Carrats is best suited to a back pocket on the oppositions small forward.

 

[Feva]

Havent been that happy with his season so far but was quite happy with his game last night.

Definitely wont be dropped.

 

[crackers111taz]

Take this as you like, but seriously some of you people are pathetic sometimes.....

The TEAM has a good win, one player has a night off, and you lot are looking to give them the ar$e.....

I suppose we should trade/delist him as well, I remember hearing this type of bull$hit about Bower, Walker, Saddo, Russell, Jamo, Bentick, Wiggo, OhAilpin, Fevola, Stevo, Bannister etc etc at different times over the last few years.....

The facts are they are all contributors and at the moment the TEAM is going O.K, let's just leave it as it is, I'm sure the coaching panel/selection staff have a fairly good idea of who should and shouldn't be playing, I seriously doubt that any of the opinions on here will be taken too seriously.....

 

[pidge]

I don't want Carrazzo to deliver the ball full stop. As a backman he is way too loose.

As long as him and Scotland are in our side we will not play finals.

are u serious scotland is a gun he gets alot of touches and clears the back line pretty good as for carazzo he hasnt got the best disposal but still runs all day and averages about 28 touches a game with about 6 maybe 7 clangers thats still a fair bit of decent touches

 

[CarltonFan]

How is important? He constantly turns the ball over and is slow and un accountable.
I think Joey Anderson could do a much better job, its time we started to give him and Benji a go to see if they can make it or not

im not a carrazzo fan, but you have to be blind to not see how important he is to our current team. the coaches know this, and knowledgable supporters can see this, but i guess flog's like yourself cant. what a shame.

 

[Quid]

YOU GUYS ARE MAD!

Carrots is an important part of our side and i can't believe people are bagging Scotto....

Be a carlton SUPPORTER! If you want to put down hard working and vital players such as these two workhorses then put on a black and white guernsey and barrack for the scum nxt wk!

 

[pidge]

YOU GUYS ARE MAD!

Carrots is an important part of our side and i can't believe people are bagging Scotto....

Be a carlton SUPPORTER! If you want to put down hard working and vital players such as these two workhorses then put on a black and white guernsey and barrack for the scum nxt wk!

couldnt of said it better

 

[WeninRome]

are u serious scotland is a gun he gets alot of touches and clears the back line pretty good as for carazzo he hasnt got the best disposal but still runs all day and averages about 28 touches a game with about 6 maybe 7 clangers thats still a fair bit of decent touches

so what if he gets x amount of touches? what about accountability? and hardness at the ball

 

[one_twelve112]

I attended the game. Carrots' kicking was no worse than anyones else's last night, including our beloved Murphys (6 clangers) and best disposer of the ball by foot, Nick Stevens. Carrozzo's ball handling last night was first clash in the wet, infact, so much better than any other player on the field. I was amazed. One touch disposal, single handed gathering and first time pickups, he also kept his feet more than most.I also believe (from first hand experience) that he is extremely well liked and respected by teammates.

 

[WeninRome]

Take this as you like, but seriously some of you people are pathetic sometimes.....

The TEAM has a good win, one player has a night off, and you lot are looking to give them the ar$e.....

I suppose we should trade/delist him as well, I remember hearing this type of bull$hit about Bower, Walker, Saddo, Russell, Jamo, Bentick, Wiggo, OhAilpin, Fevola, Stevo, Bannister etc etc at different times over the last few years.....

The facts are they are all contributors and at the moment the TEAM is going O.K, let's just leave it as it is, I'm sure the coaching panel/selection staff have a fairly good idea of who should and shouldn't be playing, I seriously doubt that any of the opinions on here will be taken too seriously.....

You have me wrong mate, Im not talking about Carrazzo having an off night. Im talking about all this year.

My main concerns are the following, and correct me if im wrong

A. Amount of possessions mean very little if you are playing as a back pocket, your number one priority should be to be accountable and play man on man.
B. Carrots does get a lot of the ball but he uses it ineffectively and constantly turns it over.
C. I really think that it is time we started to give the likes of Anderson and Benjamin a go to see whether they can sustain a spot on the list next year.

Carrots would be a very important player to us if he didnt turn the ball over so much. It is not a personal attack but more an attack on his disposal.

 

[WeninRome]

I attended the game. Carrots' kicking was no worse than anyones else's last night, including our beloved Murphys (6 clangers) and best disposer of the ball by foot, Nick Stevens. Carrozzo's ball handling last night was first clash in the wet, infact, so much better than any other player on the field. I was amazed. One touch disposal, single handed gathering and first time pickups, he also kept his feet more than most.I also believe (from first hand experience) that he is extremely well liked and respected by teammates.

The thing is Carrots turns the ball over when has plenty of time. Murphy does when he is under pressure, bad that one kick straight to the opp, which was horrible.

David Teague was very well liked by the players, does this mean he deserved to stay on the list?

 

[pidge]

personally i prob wouldnt put him in a pocket he would probably be more suited to a running half back flank. he doesnt turn it over all the time and does alot of good things. like it has been said last nite his player got 9 touches 1 goal sounds pretty accountabl to me

 

[one_twelve112]

The thing is Carrots turns the ball over when has plenty of time. Murphy does when he is under pressure, bad that one kick straight to the opp, which was horrible.

David Teague was very well liked by the players, does this mean he deserved to stay on the list?

Dropping him this week for turning the ball over would send a very poor message to the other players. I don't think people that weren't at AAMI can appreciate how trying the conditions were (even for Vic supporters sitting amongst the feral's). Carrots worked extremely hard off the ball, and while others where falling over aswell as disposing poorly he was keeping his feet and holding the ball. I agree his footskill errors are at times frustrating, and I for one can get pretty annoyed, I thought Sunday arvo was one of his better games.

 

[Cruiser23]

I was one to say drop him a few weeks back and i'm happy to admit it. He was playing more of a midfield role at the time and IMO he can't be appart of our midfield group, he doesn't have the tools to do so.

I think Ratten has figured this out and is now starting to play him in a defensive role that is more worried about the man than the ball, played well last night i might add. He has 79% effectiveness with his possessions but only 5 of his 25 touches are contested which shows that he doesn't have good disposal in a contested position. Also he isn't an in and under player because 5 out of 25 is not good enough to be one but he is hard at the ball and puts in week in week out.

Keep playing him in this defensive role that Ratten seems to be giving him, play him on Davis this week and keep playing him on small forwards. If he starts dropping his defensive duties and start becoming less accountable, he has to be dropped because he has no attacking side to his game what so ever.