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DT Mids 2012

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James said:
If you're going to correct me, please refrain from pulling stats out of your arse.

The other interesting one is Joel Selwood. Only 65% TOG last year!

That is a huge difference in game time compared to the other top mids of last year who all averaged 80%+ TOG!


Selwood 65%
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I think it's also important if you post stats that you don't pull them out of your arse and post correct information. Selwood had over 80% TOG in every game last year bar his injury game in Rd 1:

Rd 1: 17
Rd 3: 80
Rd 4: 86
Rd 5: 82
Rd 7: 84
Rd 8: 88
Rd 9: 88
Rd 10: 83
Rd 11: 86
Rd 12: 89
Rd 17: 88
Rd 18: 86
Rd 19: 84
Rd 20: 85
Rd 21: 83
Rd 23: 80
Rd 24: 88
Finals: 87
Finals: 80
Finals: 84


J Selwood average TOG 2011 : 81%
 

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James, you posted a link that doesn't take in to account the fact that he missed several games and used it to make a case that his average will increase, when averaging does take in to account the fact that he missed several games. Whilst you most definitely didn't pull the stats out of your arse, it seemed a little strange to use those stats for his average.

Had you said that his total point tally would have gone up with 80% game time then it would have been a perfectly valid point. By the way, I agree with you that Joel Selwood should just about take it to another level, I'm thinking probably top five this year for average and total if he plays all games.
 
CJApples87 said:
James, you posted a link that doesn't take in to account the fact that he missed several games and used it to make a case that his average will increase, when averaging does take in to account the fact that he missed several games. Whilst you most definitely didn't pull the stats out of your arse, it seemed a little strange to use those stats for his average.

Had you said that his total point tally would have gone up with 80% game time then it would have been a perfectly valid point. By the way, I agree with you that Joel Selwood should just about take it to another level, I'm thinking probably top five this year for average and total if he plays all games.
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I realise that the link is inaccurate, now. I take exception when people accuse me of pulling stats out of my arse though, especially since I posted the AFL link where I got the stats from. One assumes the AFL site would be accurate when doing research.
 
James said:
YOU claimed I pulled the stats out of my arse, when I clearly posted the stats from a credible link as part of my original post including said link. Which part of posting stats from a credible link is pulling them out of my arse? :rolleyes:
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Mate, the information is wrong, pure and simple.

Selwood did not have 65% TOG last year, he had 81%.

As posted above Lenny Hayes played 2 games last year with 79% and 88% TOG, yet the site you're quoting says his TOG for the year is 5%. Would you consider that credible?

The AFL TOG stats for the yearly total is NOT a credible link. It simply adds the total TOG for the player and divides it by the total number of games the team played so the only time it is correct is if a player didn't miss games. For future reference the only way to get a correct yearly TOG figure from the AFL site is add all individual games and divide it by the number of games played by the player.

I do take back the part where I said you pulled them out of your arse, you obviously thought the site stats were credible so fair enough.

Cheers
 
James said:
I realise that the link is inaccurate, now. I take excepting from people accusing me of pulling stats out of my arse though. As you would think the AFL site would be accurate when doing research.
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Well, technically it's not inaccurate. It just doesn't take in to account that players miss games. It does seem a little silly that it just takes players time on ground stats over the course of the year, rather than the course of that specific player's year.
 
CJApples87 said:
Well, technically it's not inaccurate. It just doesn't take in to account that players miss games. It does seem a little silly that it just takes players time on ground stats over the course of the year, rather than the course of that specific player's year.
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It's definitely silly and not much help to anyone doing DT player research.
 

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I think we should get this thread back on topic...

Caddy was fairly impressive, a lot of people have written him off due to his price tag which is understandable.

I asked about Bernie Vince a few months back and the Adelaide boys on here seemed to think he wouldnt be able to get his average back up to where it was a few years back. Looked really good last night. I probably wont take the risk on him but with Adelaides draw and improved play, could be a good smokey
 
What are peoples thoughts on Premium mids from bottom 8 teams? My strategy over the last few years was to generally load up my midfield with Mids from top 4 teams as they tend to score the highest. I know it doesn't matter what team they play for... but...

I don't feel right selecting players like: Ablett, Boyd, Thompson, Rockliff, Redden etc. when they're most likely going to be in teams at the bottom of the ladder. It seems like last year was an anomaly in that these types of Mids scored well in a bottom-rung team.

I'm wondering if this year we'll go back to seeing all the top Mids coming from the top teams. Anyone else thinking along these lines? I feel much safer choosing say,Pendlebury and Mitchell over Boyd and Thompson.
 
The thing with choosing a gun mid from a bottom 8 team is that you dont have to worry about them being rested later on in the year as the team is unlikely to make finals.

For teams that are pushing for a spot in the 8, they are going to want their best team on the park as much as they can which would mean there wont be any resting going on.

There is obviously pro's and con's either way
 

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Is anyone else contemplating turning back the clock and selecting either k cornes or s black? I know cornes had a crap year last year, but has looked pretty decent in NAB. At $391k he is tempting. Black, before last year, was always a lock for me. Could be a good little cash saver having them at m4 or m5.
Any love?
 
Spanishfooty said:
Is anyone else contemplating turning back the clock and selecting either k cornes or s black? I know cornes had a crap year last year, but has looked pretty decent in NAB. At $391k he is tempting. Black, before last year, was always a lock for me. Could be a good little cash saver having them at m4 or m5.
Any love?
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Time to let go buddy..
 

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