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DT Squads Part Three

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the backline structure is the one i'm having the most problem with.

i have come to the conclusion that the best middle-tier options ought to be in the "backs" because they only have to average 75-80 to be considered a keeper.
on reflection of my analysis, i am really questioning the worthiness of the non-premium keepers (any 'back' priced between 335-380k). unless i consider them to rise to premium status, i can't see the point in owning a Lockyer or Birchall.

i also discovered that Chad Cornes is the cheapest "premium" in the entire game. (based on my criteria)

and Adam McPhee is the cheapest "keeper" in the entire game. (based on my criteria)
 
Tippaz said:
Unless i consider them to rise to premium status, i can't see the point in owning a Lockyer or Birchall.
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Well the point in owning players like that is they're both durable (Well Birchall's durability is coming into question) and even if they just held their average from 2008 they would be your 6th/7th backs.

Obviously you attempt to pick the players around that pricing point that will at worst hold their average, but you also view them to have some potential upside.

To be honest, these are some of the most important players to get correct, players which are durable and for whatever reason have some upside to push them into "premium" keepers status.

These players in the long run score you more points and they save trades as you don't need to upgrade them.
 
what is the better option:

1) ruck: sandilands, cox
fwd: lucas or veszpremi,

2) ruck: sandilands, macintosh
fwd: pavlich or goodwin
 
Tarq,

i know all about that theory. i use it all time.

but considering the players underneath (middle-tier). why not chance your hand on some of them. eg) Malceski, Adcock, Houlihan. you might get 2 keepers out of those 3.

would you really want to end up with Lockyer + Malceski + Adcock as your 5th, 6th, 7th backs.
i reckon Hodge, Carrazzo, Goddard, Cornes, Scotland, Malceski, Adcock would be a better finishing back 7.

why not do away with the Lockyers and the Birchalls, and target the middle-tier instead :confused:
 

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So this is only my first post on these boards, and I know there have been plenty of people who have already posted their team so I might not get much feedback on this, but I thought I'd put it out there anyway to see what you guys think...

BACKS

S Fisher, B Goddard, C Cornes, C Newman, A Raines, J Grimes, S Hill
Bench: Suban and Petrenko

MID

J Bartel, G Ablett, D Swan, B Gibbs, D Mackay, D Rich
Bench: D Beams, M Robinson

RUCK

Cox, Simmonds
Bench: A Graham, M Pyke

FORWARDS:

A Didak, B Harvey, J Riewoldt, R Houlihan, S Higgins, H Skipworth, J Ziebell
Bench: S Sidebottom, M Brown


Ok I admit it's not the most creative team in the world, but I'm just going for where I think the value is. This is the reason forwards are very weak at the moment, because that's where I think the best prospect is for making money on some of those mid-rangers. Very shaky on whether I should keep Raines - have had Courtney Dempsey there until today. Other concern is obviously starting with S Hill on the ground, but since he's playing from round 1, I thought I should take the risk.

So the way I see it, I have 12 absolute keepers, and am hoping that Jack Riewoldt can have a big year to make 13. If not, hopefully I can have some 1 for 1 upgrades with some of the mid-rangers.

Anyway, any thoughts on my team?
 
yeah 12 keepers is bare minimum imo, you really should try and upgrade Reiwoldt to a keeper if you can, maybe a downgrade of Mckay to an Otten might help....

Raines is a starter, if you dont have Raines this season you will start behind the ball. He will prob average around 75 which is gold for a player priced under 200K. I would prob downgrade one of Ablett and Bartel to a Cooney/Boyd/Selwood you will find an extra 100K can improve ya team heaps, and just trade for Bartel when his price falls.
 
So lets get this straight what should you need to average to be a keeper
like for example is matt rosa a keeper??
 
To me the lowest keepers would be Foley or Kerr, both are a chance to average 90+ if all goes well for them.

But you have to make the choice on how much you think a player can average, if you think Rosa will average 90+ then pick him up.
 
Tippaz said:
why not do away with the Lockyers and the Birchalls, and target the middle-tier instead :confused:
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Maybe you view the upside of Birchall and Lockyer the same or more than Malceski, Houlihan and Adcock?

Maybe you value durability... There is always a number of reasons why you will select a certain player and not select another.
 
Lockyer did average 100 two seasons ago, who's to say he was played in a different role last season and this season looks like he's back to his normal role. Wont you be kicking yourself if you couldve got a player averaging 95+ from the start of the year for under 400K?

I see where you're coming from Tarquin.
 

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Lockyer did average 100 two seasons ago, who's to say he was played in a different role last season and this season looks like he's back to his normal role. Wont you be kicking yourself if you couldve got a player averaging 95+ from the start of the year for under 400K?

I see where you're coming from Tarquin.
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This is why I was arguing that selecting players around that level should be considered. If they can make the jump up from be low level keepers to premium keepers, you're team is in a great position.

Not saying that I think Lockyer will do this, but there is something you can say for Lockyer is he is durable and has "potential" to score big.
 
Players of all price ranges should be considered.
I think its stupid to rule out any price ranges.

Obviously you better off buying a player for $350k than someone who does the same for $400k. You need to look where you see the player averaging over the whole year (And factor in durability) and pick the best bang for your buck.
 
Can someone please give me some ideas on the best mid under

I have Swan, Corey, Gibbs, Knights, Rich starting.......I have $290k to spend.......any ideas would be appreciated.......thx

I'm stuck as to think whether to spend up to this amount or spend less on someone who represents cheap value and upgrade another player elsewhere.....
 
Just a question cant make my mind up whos the betta option???
Brent Harvey or Brett Deledio cant make my mind up
 

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Well a more research and a bit of tinkering and this is the side for now lol...

BACK:
P. Wheatley, A. Mackie, S. Fisher, J. Adcock, P. Bevan, A. Raines, S. Hill (N. Suban, J. Petrenko)
MIDFIELD:
J. Corey, M Boyd, B. Gibbs, C. Sylvia, C. Masten, D. Rich (D. Beams, T. Swift)
RUCK:
D. Cox, M. Kreuzer (D. Currie, W. Sullivan)
FORWARD:
B. Deledio, D. Giansiracusa, S. Johnson, J. Koschitzke, R. Houlihan, T. Hentschel, J. Ziebell (M. Brown, S. Gumbleton)

Had Hodge but after his pre-season swapped him with Wheatley in the hope that Wheatley may rise a bit in $$ while Hodge will drop some.

Hoping that Sylvia and Masten can earn a bit of cash to upgrade to better midfielders, same goes for Adcock, Koschitzke and Houlihan.

Anyway whats everyones thoughts and opinions??
 
just want yous opinion on my team

BACKS : Hodge Goddard H.Shaw Grimes Houlihan Drummond Adcock (weadin, simpkin)

MIDS : Delidio Gibbs Beams Rich Davies Judd (Robinson, Stanton)

Ruck : Fraser Kruezer (Tippet Walsh)

Forward : Pavlich Franklin Brown Roughead Fevola O'keefe Ziebell (walker zomer)

any tips
 
Richo63 said:
Well a more research and a bit of tinkering and this is the side for now lol...

BACK:
P. Wheatley, A. Mackie, S. Fisher, J. Adcock, P. Bevan, A. Raines, S. Hill (N. Suban, J. Petrenko)
MIDFIELD:
J. Corey, M Boyd, B. Gibbs, C. Sylvia, C. Masten, D. Rich (D. Beams, T. Swift)
RUCK:
D. Cox, M. Kreuzer (D. Currie, W. Sullivan)
FORWARD:
B. Deledio, D. Giansiracusa, S. Johnson, J. Koschitzke, R. Houlihan, T. Hentschel, J. Ziebell (M. Brown, S. Gumbleton)

Had Hodge but after his pre-season swapped him with Wheatley in the hope that Wheatley may rise a bit in $$ while Hodge will drop some.

Hoping that Sylvia and Masten can earn a bit of cash to upgrade to better midfielders, same goes for Adcock, Koschitzke and Houlihan.

Anyway whats everyones thoughts and opinions??
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Or do i throw Houlihan back and put someone else up forward
 
Richo63 said:
Well a more research and a bit of tinkering and this is the side for now lol...

BACK:
P. Wheatley, A. Mackie, S. Fisher, J. Adcock, P. Bevan, A. Raines, S. Hill (N. Suban, J. Petrenko)
MIDFIELD:
J. Corey, M Boyd, B. Gibbs, C. Sylvia, C. Masten, D. Rich (D. Beams, T. Swift)
RUCK:
D. Cox, M. Kreuzer (D. Currie, W. Sullivan)
FORWARD:
B. Deledio, D. Giansiracusa, S. Johnson, J. Koschitzke, R. Houlihan, T. Hentschel, J. Ziebell (M. Brown, S. Gumbleton)

Had Hodge but after his pre-season swapped him with Wheatley in the hope that Wheatley may rise a bit in $$ while Hodge will drop some.

Hoping that Sylvia and Masten can earn a bit of cash to upgrade to better midfielders, same goes for Adcock, Koschitzke and Houlihan.

Anyway whats everyones thoughts and opinions??
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When you're picking keepers whether they rise in price or not is irrelevant. I personally doubt Wheatley will back up his '08 scores with players like Grimes and Petterd potentially pushing him out of the side, because he can't kick. Get Goddard instead.

Bevan is purely a stopper, not the sort of player you should be considering at all.

Koschitzke is a massive risk. He's only shown something in one year. But if you rate him I'd rather have him in the rucks (I'm assuming he's still listed as a ruck, if he isn't he should be) so you have two ruck keepers and swap Kreuzer for one of the many good low-priced forward options.
 
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