Player Watch Ed Allan

[satty]

Always played better in the VFL when he was on the Ball and not out on wing

We are only using him for his running ability, but he lacks game sense as a winger. Think we are better off trying roan who is currently a better offensive threat.

 

[magpies42]

We are only using him for his running ability, but he lacks game sense as a winger. Think we are better off trying roan who is currently a better offensive threat.

Get games into kids is never wasted, he’ll get better. Either way if all goes to plan he loses his spot to accomodate some of the stars that are currently missing.

 

[sr36]

That’s not my point, ed wasn’t tentative in that game. He didn’t look “lost”, he was just willing to go get the ball.

I don’t think wing is his position long term.

He's not a crash in type when he plays on the inside in the VFL

 

[sr36]

Get games into kids is never wasted, he’ll get better. Either way if all goes to plan he loses his spot to accomodate some of the stars that are currently missing.

Heaps of blokes get delisted with 10 to 50 games under their belt. Senior footy isn't a magic developer of players.

 

[Kes1984]

I'd like him to be a bit more of a mongrel.

He's got a big enough body. He strikes me as a bit soft which lets him down. Needs Ned to rub off on him a bit!

Tends to avoid getting the hard ball and instead hovers at the back of the pack waiting for the ball to get to him.

 

[Kes1984]

The Melbourne game was a practice match. They weren’t playing

Shame they didn't let us win by 200 points though

 

[76woodenspooners]

Heaps of blokes get delisted with 10 to 50 games under their belt. Senior footy isn't a magic developer of players.

It’s one of our improvements under Fly …

… he doesn’t waste many games on players who aren’t destined to make it.

And I don’t see many other clubs taking our castoffs who can’t get a game and turning them into something useful.

 

[Harry O]

Will be hard for Fly to trust Ed in a big final after that incident in the last quarter against Freo.
He needs a big summer working on his ground ball fundamentals

 

[magpies42]

Heaps of blokes get delisted with 10 to 50 games under their belt. Senior footy isn't a magic developer of players.

Either way you need to give them games to see whether they make the cut, the more games you give them the quicker you can determine their future value. Allan is scintillating prospect, I’m not concerned if he has down games at this stage.

 

[sr36]

Either way you need to give them games to see whether they make the cut, the more games you give them the quicker you can determine their future value. Allan is scintillating prospect, I’m not concerned if he has down games at this stage.

But heaps of players get cut without getting games. And how a player performs this year doesn't tell you how much they'll improve over thenext two years - it's just one feedback point that list managers would use to help assess where the payer is at and what they're likely to become.

It just comes down to whether playing them before ready is a better way to develop them or whether waiting until they're ready is the way to go. I think we're doing it pretty well.

 

[No SPIN]

He's got a big enough body. He strikes me as a bit soft which lets him down. Needs Ned to rub off on him a bit!

Tends to avoid getting the hard ball and instead hovers at the back of the pack waiting for the ball to get to him.

I get the sense he’s been instructed to stay on the outside so he can use his speed.

 

[No SPIN]

Will be hard for Fly to trust Ed in a big final after that incident in the last quarter against Freo.
He needs a big summer working on his ground ball fundamentals

Why are you ignoring his fantastic snap? Showed a level of talent that was surprising for a guy of 194cm. I’ll take that over a missed ground ball, in deciding on his inclusion.

 

[sr36]

Why are you ignoring his fantastic snap? Showed a level of talent that was surprising for a guy of 194cm. I’ll take that over a missed ground ball, in deciding on his inclusion.

It was a straightforward snap - you'd expect them all to make that more often than not. And there is no "for a guy of 194cm" when you don't play tall roles. He'll either just make the team or just miss out - that's where he's at

 

[stormskye]

Why are you ignoring his fantastic snap? Showed a level of talent that was surprising for a guy of 194cm. I’ll take that over a missed ground ball, in deciding on his inclusion.

Cameron is 196cm. He does that with his eyes closed. Allan is very expendable

 

[No SPIN]

Cameron is 196cm. He does that with his eyes closed. Allan is very expendable

We may as well compare Dean to Weitering.

 

[stormskye]

We may as well compare Dean to Weitering.

You brought up height spinny.

 

[No SPIN]

You brought up height spinny.

Yes - but I was just giving your comparison an equivalent context.

 

[stormskye]

Yes - but I was just giving your comparison an equivalent context.

You talked like 194cm is some lumbering giant without any agility at AFL level when in reality it’s not. Bont is 194cm. Allan isn’t 211cm Sandilands.

Anyway on current form he’s very expendable and like long come finals and full strength might find the themselves on the outer

 

[Rorzza]

Seriously good young talent, will be at the club for awhile me think!

 

[manicpie]

Seriously good young talent, will be at the club for awhile me think!

Just needs one more pre season and he'll be fine

 

[Rorzza]

Just needs one more pre season and he'll be fine

Yes, got a game last year as a teenager, fringe player this year at 20 and IMO is playing out of position too, keeper!

 

[manicpie]

Yes, got a game last year as a teenager, fringe player this year at 20 and IMO is playing out of position too, keeper!

There's a reason the WA clubs are after him

 

[RobJD]

I get the sense he’s been instructed to stay on the outside so he can use his speed.

Agree, watch the goal he kicked from the bounce. His running pattern wasn't to either create a contest, maintain numbers in the forward line or get behind the ball, he clearly stayed outside the contest and in-front of the ball to ensure he was well positioned for the eventual spill - looked to me that he was following instructions and it paid off - well coached and well executed.

 

[JuniorB]

Agree, watch the goal he kicked from the bounce. His running pattern wasn't to either create a contest, maintain numbers in the forward line or get behind the ball, he clearly stayed outside the contest and in-front of the ball to ensure he was well positioned for the eventual spill - looked to me that he was following instructions and it paid off - well coached and well executed.

That tells you that Ed is coachable - he was instructed to keep his width and reaped the benefit.
He's got all the tools, he just needs more time to put it all together.
Remember, he's not long turned 21, so he's still a kid.
Not everyone can be a Nick and dominate from day one.

 

[Bianconeri]

That tells you that Ed is coachable - he was instructed to keep his width and reaped the benefit.
He's got all the tools, he just needs more time to put it all together.
Remember, he's not long turned 21, so he's still a kid.
Not everyone can be a Nick and dominate from day one.

People also need to remember we’re pushing for a premiership. When selecting players were going to select players who will get in done in finals this year not develop into a solid player two years from now.

Being 21 isn’t going to be an out of there’s a better option available at the selection table.

Not everyone can be Nick but there’s a reason why he was a premiership player in his second whilst others of the same age in the list weren’t.