Player Watch Ed Allan

[gouki88]

His first half was good. Disappeared a bit in the second half. Better than some colleagues, stays in I reckon

 

[danielnajdek]

Pretty hard when Grundy is doing whatever he wants in the ruck.

Allan had the 2nd most clearances amongst all our mids with 5. Only 1 less than De Goey.

That's fair. Maybe it's the Long effect where I see him get less then 20 disposals every game as a full time mid.

 

[Peters_Nuts]

That's fair. Maybe it's the Long effect where I see him get less then 20 disposals every game as a full time mid.

I think we just have too many similar mids rotating through and I personally think Long should make way for Allan.

I'd love to have a mix of Nick, Jordy, Anderson and Allan, with Pendles supporting.

 

[Sea fog]

Allan, 1 of the best with contested possies and he does not get a load of minutes compared with some.

 

[greening22]

He is a Liability at AFL Level

Not even close to good enough

There is one bit of play in the 3rd quarter when he was sort of competing (next to Heeney) for the ball in the Sydney forward area on the right side of the goal - between their half-forward flank & forward pocket to be more precise - when he allowed the ball to easily go between his legs to Papley. In turn, Papley picks up the ball & kicks a pretty good goal. I think that convinced me that he is never going to make it in the AFL. There was just no sense of urgency in his attempt. I hope that I am wrong but I doubt it. Enough said.

 

[Kappa]

Wouldve had a decent game if he didnt fumble 80% of the time the ball goes to him

 

[PieBeast]

I'm not a fan but he didn't disgrace himself last night.

 

[whiskeytown]

Allan, 1 of the best with contested possies and he does not get a load of minutes compared with some.

Solid point. I don’t think he’s reached 70% time on ground at all this year

 

[jonesy86]

Would love him to get consistent AFL game time for 5-6 weeks in a row. Showed enough last night to persist with.

 

[Heater39]

he was ok I thought, got in the right spots plenty of times but as usual a bit too much fumbling and panicking. He’s clearly a mid and not a winger but the problem is you can’t play Allan, long and Anderson in the same team when pendles comes back. If pendles can somehow inject some of his composure into Allan then we have a player.

 

[riddick78]

Just keep playing him.

 

[Rorzza]

Wouldve had a decent game if he didnt fumble 80% of the time the ball goes to him

Stoic!

 

[soreplums]

he was ok I thought, got in the right spots plenty of times but as usual a bit too much fumbling and panicking. He’s clearly a mid and not a winger but the problem is you can’t play Allan, long and Anderson in the same team when pendles comes back. If pendles can somehow inject some of his composure into Allan then we have a player.

Can Long play a defensive forward role on players like Andrews, Barrass/Battle, Stewart type players with the odd big bodies rotation in the middle?

 

[domus]

He must play again this week and for a number of weeks hopefully or he'll be asking for one way ticket home to Perth. He has loads of potential and I can see him developing into a very good player with some encouragement and opportunities in the midfield as opposed to the wing!

Funny how his best moments have always been when he attends the centre bounce/ball up.

 

[jimmy35]

Encouraging signs.

 

[HFF]

Played well as a pure mid
He can cover the ground well which is what we need on ball

 

[Roverjg]

Other than Lachie Schultz and Ned Long no other player divides BF posters as much as Ed Allan.

Ed Allan – what is he? A talented young player still adjusting to the speed and decision-making demands of AFL footy, or an elite athlete whose game may be better suited to VFL level?

On a night when Collingwood desperately needed some run and carry, it was interesting that Allan finished with just 62% TOG — only ahead of the injured Oscar Steene.

He had 18 touches, but very few actually impacted the game. Too often he fumbled or hesitated with ball in hand.

At the moment, I’m not convinced he’s a genuine inside mid. Right now, he looks more like an outside runner/wing who’s still trying to build the connection and composure required at AFL level.

Watching him play, he appears to struggle with processing speed and composure under pressure. He regularly defaults to the instant nothing handball — often putting teammates under heat — rather than taking territory or owning the moment.

I’d love for it to click for Ed. He is the ultimate Anthony Koutoufides

Anthony Koutoufides

Age

53

Ht

191cm

Wt

99kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.1

5star

K

11.3

4star

HB

8.8

5star

M

4.7

4star

T

2.2

4star

No current season stats available

D

20.2

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

9.8

5star

M

3.2

4star

T

2.0

4star

prototype player. Koutoufides, early in his career was inconsistent and a poor overhead mark. At VFL level, Allan’s size, stride and acceleration let him explode away, recover from mistakes and play instinctively. But the tempo of AFL footy compresses time and space brutally.

Hopefully it clicks, because his tools are obvious at VFL level. The question is whether the game can slow down for him consistently enough at AFL level.

 

[rand corp]

Got involved, deserves to hold his spot, but probably won't.

 

[No SPIN]

Just played him… and mostly mid too

17 touches , 6 clearances, 5 tackles, 4 inside 50s… an improvement

But a bit like ned long… you get the good with the bad

10 CBA’s for 3 Clearances- 30% strike rate is excellent

 

[No SPIN]

There is one bit of play in the 3rd quarter when he was sort of competing (next to Heeney) for the ball in the Sydney forward area on the right side of the goal - between their half-forward flank & forward pocket to be more precise - when he allowed the ball to easily go between his legs to Papley. In turn, Papley picks up the ball & kicks a pretty good goal. I think that convinced me that he is never going to make it in the AFL. There was just no sense of urgency in his attempt. I hope that I am wrong but I doubt it. Enough said.

Do you know how absurd writing off a kid based on singe mistake, sounds?
Give yourself an upper cut!!!

 

[No SPIN]

Wouldve had a decent game if he didnt fumble 80% of the time the ball goes to him

LOL - players of both Clubs fumbled a lot under the conditions.

 

[No SPIN]

Can Long play a defensive forward role on players like Andrews, Barrass/Battle, Stewart type players with the odd big bodies rotation in the middle?

I think that’s the plan - Howe praised Long’s versatility in the Swoopluke video.

 

[Heater39]

Can Long play a defensive forward role on players like Andrews, Barrass/Battle, Stewart type players with the odd big bodies rotation in the middle?

Think he’d struggle on someone like Andrews and he’d offer next to no threat as a forward. Big bodied defensive mid is his most likely position imo. Still don’t think you can play long, Anderson and Allan together though. They all seem to have the same limiting factors like poor disposal and low possession count. If one of them goes on to be a 150 game player I’ll take it

 

[No SPIN]

Think he’d struggle on someone like Andrews and he’d offer next to no threat as a forward. Big bodied defensive mid is his most likely position imo. Still don’t think you can play long, Anderson and Allan together though. They all seem to have the same limiting factors like poor disposal and low possession count. If one of them goes on to be a 150 game player I’ll take it

How did it hurt us playing them all last night?

 

[Heater39]

How did it hurt us playing them all last night?

They were all servicable last night but they just don't get enough of the ball to all be playing midfield. Plus they all have average to below average disposal.

Do you really see all 3 as part of our long term midfield?