Competitions EFC Board List Management Game

[eth-dog]

So hypothetically, if I have a $200,000 player X and I trade him for a $400,000 player Y, I'm now over budget?

Since you have 50k left; yes.

Right so if everyone wants to be like the non-Essendon AFL clubs they can screw Ashton over, refuse to trade with him and he's out! He's going to get bent over at the trade table!

Last time we all cooperated well at the trade table, and there are people like fodzilla who are close to filling their quota and are still under budget who I'm sure would be happy to help out.

 

[Ben the Gooner]

Since you have 50k left; yes.

That's ****ing stupid.

 

[boncer34]

That's ******* stupid.

Why?

Just because you can't list manage and want to break the budget it ****s over people like myself who have been stingy with their money.

 

[GUMBLETRON]

I'm easy either way, both add an element of strategy. Trading is a bit trickier this way and it reflects people signing spud x onto a ridiculous contract, but you also lose the capacity to buy-low/sell-high.

 

[Ben the Gooner]

Why?

Just because you can't list manage and want to break the budget it ****s over people like myself who have been stingy with their money.

I've managed my budget fine. But if I want to trade Toby Greene ($450,000) for a comparable player in Mitch Duncan ($465,000), I'm suddenly over-budget. Or to use a better example, if someone decides that they really want the best small forward in the competition, and offer me say Aaron Sandilands, I can't take it because I got Breust for an absolute bargain $560,000 whereas Sandi went for $875,000.

I don't see how trade is in any way related to the price. You wouldn't swap BJ for Scully even though they both cost the same pick.

 

[boncer34]

I've managed my budget fine. But if I want to trade Toby Greene ($450,000) for a comparable player in Mitch Duncan ($465,000), I'm suddenly over-budget. Or to use a better example, if someone decides that they really want the best small forward in the competition, and offer me say Aaron Sandilands, I can't take it because I got Breust for an absolute bargain $560,000 whereas Sandi went for $875,000.

I don't see how trade is in any way related to the price. You wouldn't swap BJ for Scully even though they both cost the same pick.

If you've managed your budget fine then what is the problem?

Its like a real AFL club, you can't just trade in for stars if they don't fit your cap. Same rules apply here.

 

[Ben the Gooner]

If you've managed your budget fine then what is the problem?

Its like a real AFL club, you can't just trade in for stars if they don't fit your cap. Same rules apply here.

I don't have a problem. I'm quite comfortable with my team. I just think it's ludicrous that I can't trade for someone who was overpaid for or get value out of someone I got cheap.

 

[boncer34]

I don't have a problem. I'm quite comfortable with my team. I just think it's ludicrous that I can't trade for someone who was overpaid for or get value out of someone I got cheap.

And I think its ludicrous that you expect to be able to break the salary cap at any stage.

 

[Ashton Agar]

And I think its ludicrous that you expect to be able to break the salary cap at any stage.

Not really. In the AFL it's done on the final list lodgement. So when Sydney bought Buddy they were over, and after they made room.

 

[boncer34]

Not really. In the AFL it's done on the final list lodgement. So when Sydney bought Buddy they were over, and after they made room.

Thanks for confirming my point. I think.

 

[Ashton Agar]

Thanks for confirming my point. I think.

No, I'm saying that as long as I finish under the limit it should be fine. It's the way the AFL works.

 

[boncer34]

No, I'm saying that as long as I finish under the limit it should be fine. It's the way the AFL works.

You didn't read our whole discussion did you?

 

[Jade]

I've managed my budget fine. But if I want to trade Toby Greene ($450,000) for a comparable player in Mitch Duncan ($465,000), I'm suddenly over-budget. Or to use a better example, if someone decides that they really want the best small forward in the competition, and offer me say Aaron Sandilands, I can't take it because I got Breust for an absolute bargain $560,000 whereas Sandi went for $875,000.

I don't see how trade is in any way related to the price. You wouldn't swap BJ for Scully even though they both cost the same pick.

No one is trading you Sandilands....

 

[Ben the Gooner]

And I think its ludicrous that you expect to be able to break the salary cap at any stage.

So Breust is only marginally more valuable than Grundy or Daniher. What a flawed system.

 

[boncer34]

So Breust is only marginally more valuable than Grundy or Daniher. What a flawed system.

Dude you scored a bargain. Arguing that the salary cap that we've used as the basis for the game should be thrown at the window come trade time is ridiculous.

I for one plan on using my cap space come trade time.

 

[efcboy]

If the original owner is happy to retain a portion of players salary then this could be a way to do it.
Eg trade Sandilands (bought for $875k) over for 600k and retain 275k of his salary. More work for ethdog but is an option?

 

[efcboy]

So Breust is only marginally more valuable than Grundy or Daniher. What a flawed system.

And Montagna is cheaper than all! Some went out too hard too early!

 

[eth-dog]

18/11/2013 List 14

Luke Hodge - $700,000 boncer34
Ariel Steinberg
Nicholas Duigan
Timothy Broomhead
Scott McMahon
Chris Judd - $500,000 Bengali Bomber
Ben Mabon
Christian Howard
Matthew Forster
Nicholas Kommer - $125,000 boncer34
Clay Cameron
Dyson Heppell - $800,000 boncer34
Liam Sumner
Nick Dal Santo - $400,000 fodzilla
Nathan Wright
Matthew De Boer - $100,000 Bengali Bomber
Andrew Boseley
Paul Chapman - $400,000 BrewSmackerVeiny
Troy Chaplin - $50,000 BrewSmackerVeiny
Sam Day
Stephen Gilham
Shaun Atley - $450,000 boncer34
Shane Tuck
Matthew Spangher
Ryan O'Keefe - $500,000fodzilla

 

[eth-dog]

Separate List (Ashton Agar)

Todd Goldstein
Dennis Armfield
Rory Thompson
Zac Smith
Arryn Sipposs
Matthew Buntine
Jay Schulz
Sam Blease
Shaun Edwards

18/11/2013 List 15

Taylor Walker
Lewis Johnstone
Luke McGuane
Craig Moller
Michael Hurley
Sean Gregory
Matthew Maguire
Jarrad Redden
Simon White
Tanner Smith
Jason Blake
Tom Hawkins
Daniel Currie
Matthew Lobbe
Phil Davis
Tom Campbell
Tommy Walsh
Heath Grundy
Tom Nicholls
Max Bailey
Joshua Walker
Sam Reid (Syd)
Spencer White
Ted Richards

 

[GUMBLETRON]

Huh, interesting round.

 

[boncer34]

Huh, interesting round.

I overpaid I'd say.

 

[raskolnikov]

Chris Judd for $500,000? Score.

 

[Ben the Gooner]

How is Nick Kommer 2.5x more expensive than Troy Chaplin

 

[eth-dog]

How is Nick Kommer 2.5x more expensive than Troy Chaplin

And $25,000 more expensive than De Boer.

 

[Drummer_19]

Actually had a bit more cap left than I thought on a re count of my list, hazzah.