Essendon 29k?

[kaysee]

Not sure if this has been covered in an existing thread...

The Essendon v Port game only drew 29k to a 50k seat stadium on a sunny Saturday afternoon.

Essendon are apparently one of the "BIG 4" Victorian clubs... not a NMFC, MFC or Western Bulldogs (with full respect guys).

Yet this game only draw just over 29,000 people. This is in no way an attack or a troll on Essendon at all... but perhaps people are too quick to bag Port crowd figures when we pull 20k-25k to a crap stadium against low drawing teams.

That is all.

 

[WoGiTaLiA]

Port games always do poorly in Melbourne.

Saturday afternoon games are awful times for games, effectively rules out families that play sport, people who are working and I'm sure others as well.

For Port, in Melbourne that is a very decent crowd, compare it with when they play the likes of Melbourne or NM and it suddenly isn't as bad, in fact against a non-drawing team it is a perfectly reasonable crowd imo.

 

[PortBrillance]

Horrible crowd number. Consdering Port were in town with stars like motlop, boak, gray and we are 6th on the ladder, its a horrible crowd.

 

[Art Corvelay]

Horrible crowd number. Consdering Port were in town with stars like motlop, boak, gray and we are 6th on the ladder, its a horrible crowd.

That's asking to be bookmarked for the next time only 20k rock up to AAMI.

 

[Doctor Feel]

Horrible crowd number. Consdering Port were in town with stars like motlop, boak, gray and we are 6th on the ladder, its a horrible crowd.

lol, you've been pumping us up alot recently in an overly arrogant manner.

 

[ash_78]

I'd like to know why it's a designated "ticketed game" every year. Not sure if that's the AFL's call or Etihad's call, but it's ridiculous. As a Victorian Port member, I receive "free" admission to all Port's away games in Victoria - but have to go through the hassle and cost to get a ticket for these ticketed games that supposedly are going to be so full that you need an allocated seat.

Bloody ridiculous.

 

[Astro_]

Essendon have a good track record with crowds. Dont see the point of this thread.

So what they had a poor turnout for this game....You're assuming this will continue for Essendon...they will still draw a decent amount of people to their games over this season.

Pointless thread.

 

[LB#16]

Essendon have a good track record with crowds. Dont see the point of this thread.

So what they had a poor turnout for this game....You're assuming this will continue for Essendon...they will still draw a decent amount of people to their games over this season.

Pointless thread.

Spot on. We have one bad crowd turnout so people throw their hands in the air and gasp. It's one game, honestly we won't have bad crowds all season long like some other clubs. Cannot expect to have 30k+ games for all 22 per season every single season especially against interstate sides who struggle to draw 30k at their own home ground let alone away.

Also, how many people do you know (may include yourself) that play footy of a Saturday arvo and can't attend AFL matches?

 

[Macca18]

Yet had 61,000 at their home game the previous week...

Have Port ever drew 60,000 or more to ANY game? (besides a final)

Port probably have the least supporters in Victoria, and that includes Fremantle. But it says a fair bit when 29,000 is a very disappointing crowd for an Essendon game against low drawing interstate opposition. Port would take 29,000 every day of the week for a home game against all interstate sides...

 

[Doctor Feel]

Yet had 61,000 at their home game the previous week...

Have Port ever drew 60,000 or more to ANY game? (besides a final)

Port probably have the least supporters in Victoria, and that includes Fremantle. But it says a fair bit when 29,000 is a very disappointing crowd for an Essendon game against low drawing interstate opposition. Port would take 29,000 every day of the week for a home game against all interstate sides...

Neutrals make a large difference. I saw a large amount of very intoxicated Collywobble supporters jumping up and down yelling "you beauty" when port knocked your mob off.

 

[raskolnikov]

Neutrals make a large difference. I saw a large amount of very intoxicated Collywobble supporters jumping up and down yelling "you beauty" when port knocked your mob off.

Yeah, well when you don't have a life, or a job, that happens.

 

[Dan26]

Incredibly ignorant thread.

Essendon and Collingwood are the only Victorian clubs who can get between 40-50,000 versus West Coast, Adelaide, Fremantle and Port on a regular basis.

When both Essendon and Collingwood are struggling (Essendon was 2-4 going into the game), games against those low-drawing opponents tend to drop to a minimum of 30,000-ish.

In 2007, when the Bombers were in form, 47,000 saw them play West Coast at the Dome.

And the two biggest crowds Fremantle has played in front of in Melbourne were 42,256 at the Dome (vs Essendon in '03) and 45,383 at the MCG vs Collingwood in '08.

 

[The Fact]

Neutrals make a large difference. I saw a large amount of very intoxicated Collywobble supporters jumping up and down yelling "you beauty" when port knocked your mob off.

You didn't really answer the question and doesn't SA have neutral supporters

 

[Doctor Feel]

You didn't really answer the question and doesn't SA have neutral supporters

Not from 9 other AFL clubs and a population 4 times the size of Adelaides.
The crows supporters flat out refuse to attend our games because the hatred runs so deep, so count them out.

The "60,000 last home game" arguement is ridiculous seeing as that was two Victorian clubs and isn't even comparable to and interstate team vs home team.

The Crows pulled more than you at home this week against Richmond at a shit stadium. Both clubs winless, and on mothers day.

 

[Dan26]

As a point of an apples vs apples comaprison, Collingwood (with a similar following) recorded the following crowds versus the 4 low-drawing opponents in years where the Pies missed the finals.

2005 Coll vs Fremantle at MCG 26,586
2005 Coll vs Port at Dome 35,844
2005 Coll vs West Coast at MCG 31,105
2005 Coll vs Adelaide at Dome 31,464

2004 Coll vs Fremantle at Dome 34,416
2004 Coll vs Adelaide at Dome 37,881
2004 Coll vs Port at MCG 27,226
2004 Coll vs West Coast at Dome 44,401

Average 33,615. Average against Port and Fremantle 31,018

And Essendon is pretty much the same when they are struggling. They tend to bottom out at around 30,000 mimimum - as an abosulte minimum. That's as low as it gets, give or take.

 

[tribey]

Port games always do poorly in Melbourne.

Saturday afternoon games are awful times for games, effectively rules out families that play sport, people who are working and I'm sure others as well.

For Port, in Melbourne that is a very decent crowd, compare it with when they play the likes of Melbourne or NM and it suddenly isn't as bad, in fact against a non-drawing team it is a perfectly reasonable crowd imo.

Realistically, what's that got to do with it? You'd think more than 26-27000 Essendon fans (allowing for Port's sizeable travellers) - Kevin Sheedy's self-styled 'Australian club' - could be bothered to go see their club live, regardless of the opposition.

 

[Art Corvelay]

They tend to bottom out at around 30,000 mimimum - as an abosulte minimum. That's as low as it gets, give or take.

The Essendon v Port game only drew 29k to a 50k seat stadium on a sunny Saturday afternoon.

Massive lol's

 

[Dan26]

Essendon's crowds agaisnt the 4 low-drawing opponents (Port, Freo WCE, Adel) in years where the Bombers MISSED the finals were:

2010 Ess vs Port at Dome 29,248
2010 Ess vs Fre at Dome 29,651

2008 Ess vs Port at Dome 28,409
2008 Ess vs WCE at Dome 33,386
2008 Ess vs Adel at Dome 32,184

2007 Ess vs Frem at Dome 32,623
2007 Ess vs WCE at Dome 48,913
2007 Ess vs Adel at Dome 35,010

2006 Ess vs WCE at Dome 31,434
2006 Ess vs Port at Dome 29,232

2005 Ess vd Freo at Dome 30,383

Average 32,770. Average against Port and Freo 29,924



As you can see it's pretty much identical for Essendon and Collingwood in years where they miss the finals. They pretty much don't drop below 30,000 (or close enough to)

Now I can show you the numbers for when both clubs make the finals versus those 4 low-drawing opponents and you will see a sudden spike.

 

[Dan26]

Realistically, what's that got to do with it? You'd think more than 26-27000 Essendon fans (allowing for Port's sizeable travellers) - Kevin Sheedy's self-styled 'Australian club' - could be bothered to go see their club live, regardless of the opposition.

As stated, the two biggest clubs (Ess, Coll) bottom out at around 30,000 as a mimimum when they are playing poorly against a non-Vic team with no supporters in Melbourne.

When both clubs make the finals, the crowds versus those same 4 opponents (Port, Freo, WCE and Adel) usually hover between 35-50-000.

But 30,000 vs Port when the Bombers are struggling is historically about right. No other club apart from Collingwood would also bottom out at 30,000 as their lowest point.

I think 30,000 is good for a "low point."

And there are only two Vic clubs whose low point when everything is going wrong is still 30,000.

 

[Lance Uppercut]

hahaha this thread provides epic lulz.

Hey Prot supporters, when we consistently draw such dismal crowds to stadia far smaller than the ones we play at, where we need to actually cover entire bays of seats in a pathetic attempt to create atmosphere, then you know what, come see me.

Until then, continue writhing in embarrassment at being the only club in the league that has such shit attendance that you need to put plastic covers over entire bays of premium seats.

As for comparing Round 1 games with Round 7 games, that's a real laugh

 

[ARDENSTREETforever]

29k and get bagged for it?
Id love to draw 29k to an interstate game!!

 

[little hawk gmf]

Essendon membership would be a whole lot less that Richmonds if they had tp put up with the same history as the Tiges over the last 30 yrs. I do have a sneaky feeling that with a few years of rubbish from the EFC coming up, their position in the "Big4" may be under threat from a number of clubs. Car, Coll, Haw + either Dees, Cats or Tiges.

 

[Lance Uppercut]

Essendon membership would be a whole lot less that Richmonds if they had tp put up with the same history as the Tiges over the last 30 yrs.

source? Or did you pull that out of your arse?

 

[little hawk gmf]

How can you have a source for a simple opinion. The source is obviously me as it is an opinion that I have stated. Did it hit a raw nerve?

 

[WHOME]

As stated, the two biggest clubs (Ess, Coll) bottom out at around 30,000 as a mimimum when they are playing poorly against a non-Vic team with no supporters in Melbourne.

When both clubs make the finals, the crowds versus those same 4 opponents (Port, Freo, WCE and Adel) usually hover between 35-50-000.

But 30,000 vs Port when the Bombers are struggling is historically about right. No other club apart from Collingwood would also bottom out at 30,000 as their lowest point.

I think 30,000 is good for a "low point."

And there are only two Vic clubs whose low point when everything is going wrong is still 30,000.

"When everything is going wrong, when the Bombers are struggling!!" Turn it up, you played finals last year, you had just come off flogging Hawthorn and were going in favourites in a very important home game against a side you haven't beaten in 6 years.