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Essendon's Problem Doesn't Exist - Dank

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coryne said:
I am sure part of the ASADA/WADA rules is the bans must be taken in season, and if the AFL tried to implement them during the pre-season then WADA/ASADA can appeal that decision.
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So if they were banned for 2 years, they miss 4 seasons? I doubt it
 
larson said:
So if they were banned for 2 years, they miss 4 seasons? I doubt it
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No but the ban would at least have to cover 2 years worth of in-season play.


Starting in August and being done by the start of 2014 would be a farce of enormous proportion. And for such a reduced ban to be implemented on the players then the club would have to take up the blame for the incident, so while players may have their penalties reduced (from 2 years to 6 months) the penalties against the club itself would need to off-set such a reduction (eg playing for no premiership points in 2014, loss of draft picks etc).
 
coryne said:
No but the ban would at least have to cover 2 years worth of in-season play..
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Which is essentially...4 seasons, if you take the season proper 6 months.

6 months (Season 1)
6 months (season 2)
6 months (season 3)
6 months (season 4)
=24 months 2 years of in season bans.
 

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DonsRule said:
Which is essentially...4 seasons, if you take the season proper 6 months.

6 months (Season 1)
6 months (season 2)
6 months (season 3)
6 months (season 4)
=24 months 2 years of in season bans.
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Except the penalty is a 2 year ban (not a 24 month ban). A 2 year ban will ALWAYS cover 2 seasons worth of competition. A 6 month ban may only cover a pre-season, thus why it would be enforced in a way that in competition games were missed (and no 2 games wouldn't count).


Stop thinking emotionally and trying to exaggerate circumstances to down play the situation .............
 
coryne said:
Except the penalty is a 2 year ban (not a 24 month ban). A 2 year ban will ALWAYS cover 2 seasons worth of competition. A 6 month ban may only cover a pre-season, thus why it would be enforced in a way that in competition games were missed (and no 2 games wouldn't count).


Stop thinking emotionally and trying to exaggerate circumstances to down play the situation .............
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So you want a 6 month ban to be the same as a one year ban? Sorry, it doesn't work like that
 
Guys

There is not going to be a 6 month ban. it get a 6 month ban a player needs to aid ASADA in their investigation. That is they have to dob in other players. I can confidently say that not a single currently listed Essendon player will dob in other Essendon players.

One year bans is the best Essendon is going to get.
 
Baldur said:
Guys

There is not going to be a 6 month ban. it get a 6 month ban a player needs to aid ASADA in their investigation. That is they have to dob in other players. I can confidently say that not a single currently listed Essendon player will dob in other Essendon players.

One year bans is the best Essendon is going to get.
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Lance Uppercut said:
oh right. So guilt is established in your venerable legal mind. Ok. Interesting.
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At this stage my opinion is that it is probable that some players were injected with AOD-9604. I base this on the text messages between Dank and Hird, the comment from Tim Watson about his son getting an anti obsity drug, the Hun report saying they saw documentation proving this, Danks interview about the email and AOD-9604's status re S2.

I would not say guilt has been established as the process is not over yet. There are other substances that may or may not come into play and I have no trust in the 6 players figure.
 
Slax said:
Because Evans wants to believe Dank and Dank has his career riding on it. If they are proved to be PED Dank is unemployable and his career is in more trouble than Melbourne's finals hopes this year, he has eveything to lose so he has to be on the front foot otherwise he might as well walk into Centrelink today stating he wants a new career.
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His career in Australia is over, regardless of the outcome
 
Baldur said:
At this stage my opinion is that it is probable that some players were injected with AOD-9604. I base this on the text messages between Dank and Hird, the comment from Tim Watson about his son getting an anti obsity drug, the Hun report saying they saw documentation proving this, Danks interview about the email and AOD-9604's status re S2.

I would not say guilt has been established as the process is not over yet. There are other substances that may or may not come into play and I have no trust in the 6 players figure.
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Thought your good self and your associates at the Bigfooty law firm might want to run your eyes over this for us, champ.
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http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/tea...s-took-last-year/story-e6frf9l6-1226636357628


"I was approached about three months ago with a really big list of substances and got the impression at the time Essendon didn't have a clue what might have been used or what might not have been," McKinnon said.
"It was almost a grab-bag of supplements and most of them are in the public domain.
"They approached me to provide a framework on what stage of approval they were at, and what experience of them there was in humans.
"I am a pharmaceutical person with knowledge of drug development and regulatory pathways. I have no idea who took what and who didn't. I never entered into those discussions."
McKinnon said the data concerning anti-obesity drug AOD-9604 suggested it "would have problems with the (WADA) code".
"The code is quite clear. It falls on the individuals to ensure you are not in breach of it," McKinnon said.
"From a drugs perspective, if something hasn't been approved for human use, we shouldn't be going anywhere near it."
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Dustin Credible said:
Also from twitter in response to the above pic.

View attachment 17516
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It has been stated that ASADA will struggle to get this garbage over the line in court. This would present as yet another obstacle for them to negotiate if they are to justify the shitstorm they've started and bust some druggies.
 
saladodger said:
It has been stated that ASADA will struggle to get this garbage over the line in court. This would present as yet another obstacle for them to negotiate if they are to justify the shitstorm they've started and bust some druggies.
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Reading the extract the drugs would have to be formulated on a named patient basis (i.e. not just ordered for Essendon FC), and for a therapeutic indication for said named patient.

Not sure it helps the bombers really.
 
Dustin Credible said:
Reading the extract the drugs would have to be formulated on a named patient basis (i.e. not just ordered for Essendon FC), and for a therapeutic indication for said named patient.

Not sure it helps the bombers really.
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If Dank has consulted with players, analysed blood results as reported and then implemented treatment on 6 players as rumoured, I would think that document does address the administration of AOD in those individuals cases.
 
saladodger said:
If Dank has consulted with players, analysed blood results as reported and then implemented treatment on 6 players as rumoured, I would think that document does address the administration of AOD in those individuals cases.
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Then you'd have to answer two things.

1) What was the therapeutic indication. That is what illness was being treated.
2) What is the proposed mechanism of action for it's effects
 
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