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[happy_eagle]

The Dutch GP leaked the sprint races for next season.

Surely not Singapore ?

Probably the second worst track on the calendar for a sprint behind Monaco.

 

[StFly]

Surely not Singapore ?

Probably the second worst track on the calendar for a sprint behind Monaco.

Not just that, but think maybe Cairns for environment, as all things depending it could be maybe 34C with threat of a monsoon around that sort of time. So F1 kinda thinking night and night and hope for the best methinks, with minimums at around 23C ambient.

Could end up being patently unsafe to drive around Singapore if they time it wrong.

 

[DarthTimon]

F1 cars racing through the Corkscrew at Laguna would be amazing to watch, assuming they could manage it.

 

[DarthTimon]

Wow. In IndyCar, having multiple recovery vehicles driving on the side of the track whilst the race cars go by is a thing. Granted it was under safety car conditions, but it struck me as insanely dangerous.

 

[Cromulant]

Wow. In IndyCar, having multiple recovery vehicles driving on the side of the track whilst the race cars go by is a thing. Granted it was under safety car conditions, but it struck me as insanely dangerous.

Classic US

 

[Jatz]

Didn't they do that in F1 until Bianchi?

 

[Cromulant]

Didn't they do that in F1 until Bianchi?

Yep, but thats kinda the point.

That was a long time ago and theyre still doing it.

 

[jb04]

Classic US

It took folk hero Dale Earnhardt passing away on track for a bunch of safety measures to be adopted that we all take for granted.

That being said, in the F1 space the halo wasn’t universally accepted at the start, and it’s turned a few “watch someone die on tv” moments to “awful, awful crash that the driver somehow survived” moments.

 

[Cromulant]

It took folk hero Dale Earnhardt passing away on track for a bunch of safety measures to be adopted that we all take for granted.

That being said, in the F1 space the halo wasn’t universally accepted at the start, and it’s turned a few “watch someone die on tv” moments to “awful, awful crash that the driver somehow survived” moments.

Even then they didnt do it all straight away, guys still refused to believe the HANS device could save anyone.

 

[Bestbird]

Have to feel a bit sorry for Jack Doohan career as an F1 driver after spending time at Alpine as the reserve driver before finally getting a chance in an unfair situation for a rookie driver expectation wise.

Colapinto has arguably been worse.

 

[Forward Press]

Have to feel a bit sorry for Jack Doohan career as an F1 driver after spending time at Alpine as the reserve driver before finally getting a chance in an unfair situation for a rookie driver expectation wise.

Colapinto has arguably been worse.

If he wasn't South American and he wasn't managed by Flavio he wouldn't be driving in F1.

But he is, so he's still on the grid.

Them's the breaks in F1 where sponsors matter heavily. Similar can be said for Lance Stroll, the minute his father is no longer interested and invested in F1 is the minute he is sacked.

 

[Jatz]

If he wasn't South American and he wasn't managed by Flavio he wouldn't be driving in F1.

But he is, so he's still on the grid.

Them's the breaks in F1 where sponsors matter heavily. Similar can be said for Lance Stroll, the minute his father is no longer interested and invested in F1 is the minute he is sacked.

I thought Jack was supposed to be Flavio’s pick?

 

[Festerz]

The Dutch GP leaked the sprint races for next season.

The leak must have more than a modicum of truth because the FIA is going bonkers shutting down any social media posts that are reporting it.

 

[Festerz]

I thought Jack was supposed to be Flavio’s pick?

Until Colapinto opened his wallet to show how much backing he had.

 

[Forward Press]

I thought Jack was supposed to be Flavio’s pick?

Yeah could also argue Jack perhaps got his big break initially due to Flavio (on top of his Formula racing successes) but Colapinto seemed more talented and more importantly had more sponsors.

 

[Not Important]

the kids done good.

 

[Barrybran]

the kids done good.

So has the guy who created this video. Would be awesome to find a non-AI version of this.

 

[Festerz]

Peter Windsor makes some very good points in his appearance of the Cameron CC youtube channel here

He says that outside of the UK and Australia, Formula 1 fans are not particularly interested in the title fight between the two McLaren drivers and asks why that is.

“We're quite lucky to have these two contrasting personalities, talents, drivers, names in the McLarens fighting like this, because it could be an easy walkover if they had a clear number one, number two situation with a slower driver in the other car.”

“We've got this battle. But the interesting thing is, it doesn't look as if the public are that into it. It doesn't look as if this is great for Formula One. I don't know why. Maybe McLaren, most people think McLaren's got a boring team or something.”

Windsor also asks a good question about why McLaren allowing its drivers to race on track has not attracted the attention (and praise) it deserves.

“I don't know. But if this was Max versus Charles or Max versus George or Lewis versus Charles, whatever, I think everyone would be a lot more fired up, wouldn't they?”

My own thinking on this is that we have in Lando and Oscar two drivers and personalities who don't grate as individuals and who just get on as team mates in a way that no fierce stand alone rivals for an F1 championship ever have. They don't fit the simple hero/villain narrative that has come to dfine modern sporting rivalries. And so viewers are forced to focus on their on track abilities - and I reckon that just bores the heck out of many of the new Netflix converts to F1. They can just FRO imho.

But as Windsor hints - the owners of the F1 roadshow will not be pleased at the lack of drama and histrionics from and between the two contenders for the championship. It's not good for their business model.

 

[happy_eagle]

Peter Windsor makes some very good points in his appearance of the Cameron CC youtube channel here

He says that outside of the UK and Australia, Formula 1 fans are not particularly interested in the title fight between the two McLaren drivers and asks why that is.

“We're quite lucky to have these two contrasting personalities, talents, drivers, names in the McLarens fighting like this, because it could be an easy walkover if they had a clear number one, number two situation with a slower driver in the other car.”

“We've got this battle. But the interesting thing is, it doesn't look as if the public are that into it. It doesn't look as if this is great for Formula One. I don't know why. Maybe McLaren, most people think McLaren's got a boring team or something.”

Windsor also asks a good question about why McLaren allowing its drivers to race on track has not attracted the attention (and praise) it deserves.

“I don't know. But if this was Max versus Charles or Max versus George or Lewis versus Charles, whatever, I think everyone would be a lot more fired up, wouldn't they?”

My own thinking on this is that we have in Lando and Oscar two drivers and personalities who don't grate as individuals and who just get on as team mates in a way that no fierce stand alone rivals for an F1 championship ever have. They don't fit the simple hero/villain narrative that has come to dfine modern sporting rivalries. And so viewers are forced to focus on their on track abilities - and I reckon that just bores the heck out of many of the new Netflix converts to F1. They can just FRO imho.

Well I think its mainly cause there hasn't been much drama, and the two drivers appear to get along quite well (also the fact that Oscar is very introverted probably makes it harder to dramatise).

Nico vs Lewis really only started to fire up once they crashed a few times.
Same with Lewis vs Max.

The one time that Lando and Oscar crashed, you had Lando admitting fault and putting out that fire immediately by owning the mistake.

 

[imadodgyumpire]

Peter Windsor makes some very good points.

Said no one ever.

But as Windsor hints - the owners of the F1 roadshow will not be pleased at the lack of drama and histrionics from and between the two contenders for the championship. It's not good for their business model.

f. A. R. K. em

 

[Festerz]

Said no one ever.

I just did.

 

[nohairandfair]

Peter Windsor makes some very good points in his appearance of the Cameron CC youtube channel here

He says that outside of the UK and Australia, Formula 1 fans are not particularly interested in the title fight between the two McLaren drivers and asks why that is.

“We're quite lucky to have these two contrasting personalities, talents, drivers, names in the McLarens fighting like this, because it could be an easy walkover if they had a clear number one, number two situation with a slower driver in the other car.”

“We've got this battle. But the interesting thing is, it doesn't look as if the public are that into it. It doesn't look as if this is great for Formula One. I don't know why. Maybe McLaren, most people think McLaren's got a boring team or something.”

Windsor also asks a good question about why McLaren allowing its drivers to race on track has not attracted the attention (and praise) it deserves.

“I don't know. But if this was Max versus Charles or Max versus George or Lewis versus Charles, whatever, I think everyone would be a lot more fired up, wouldn't they?”

My own thinking on this is that we have in Lando and Oscar two drivers and personalities who don't grate as individuals and who just get on as team mates in a way that no fierce stand alone rivals for an F1 championship ever have. They don't fit the simple hero/villain narrative that has come to dfine modern sporting rivalries. And so viewers are forced to focus on their on track abilities - and I reckon that just bores the heck out of many of the new Netflix converts to F1. They can just FRO imho.

But as Windsor hints - the owners of the F1 roadshow will not be pleased at the lack of drama and histrionics from and between the two contenders for the championship. It's not good for their business model.

This season has been full of drama. Windsor is a bit long in the tooth and his “takes” are increasingly missing the mark or just plain stupid.

 

[catstorm]

But people enjoyed years of Lewis domination and then people enjoyed 2023 where Max could have skipped qualifying if he felt like it and still win the race.

Yes those years were so entertaining.

 

[skam85]

Still plenty of races for the fight to get tense, I reckon it will especially when it gets down to those last 5 races and it's still close.

 

[jb04]

Still plenty of races for the fight to get tense, I reckon it will especially when it gets down to those last 5 races and it's still close.

The last 5 races of 2021 were completely mental when it could have been a meandering end to the season. Mexico onwards Lewis was rampaging, we could see that again this year from whoever is 2nd at that point, who knows?