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bulletride said:
I know people lament Fallout moving away from a traditional RPG but I don't think anyone is clamouring to roleplay as a quest giver.
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Epic NPC man the game
 
bulletride said:
I know people lament Fallout moving away from a traditional RPG but I don't think anyone is clamouring to roleplay as a quest giver.
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Read the FO76 reddit people are excited that he said you can open a shop and sell ammo, if you could RP a quest giver people would :P
 
SwampCreature said:
The whoosh was the sound of the series’ subtext flying over the heads of the devs
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Seems like the nukes have a story purpose and the nuked area drops high level loot, if anyone knows the series subtext it's the creators of the games.
 
This thread is horribly painful, the information has been released, can everyone stop being so wrong
 

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AngryRanga said:
This thread is horribly painful, the information has been released, can everyone stop being so wrong
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the important information hasn't been released

and that is who the **** is singing the song in the trailer :mad:
 
Sterge said:
Read the FO76 reddit people are excited that he said you can open a shop and sell ammo, if you could RP a quest giver people would :p
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Think that is only something they are mulling over.

I'd love to give quests.

Go to the old asylum and collect my dead wifes knickers, the reward is 10 bottlecaps.
 
dav3 said:
Stolen from /r/f076 on Reddit, points are based off this video......
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That’s an awesome video, really like how the world is looking and I’ll have heaps of fun just discovering all these places, I can deal with the lack of story when it looks like a blast to explore.

From this video it seems obvious that this is something they wanted to have a go at and of course it doesn’t please old school fans but I think they will eventually please them in a few years when Fallout 5 should come out. This is just a cool project that I’m glad they are atleast trying.
 
SwampCreature said:
If anyone knows the subtext it’s clearly not you
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I've played enough Fallout to know the history of the world, if you don't like the sound of this feel free to not post about it.
 
SwampCreature said:
Just did a bit more research, you've definitely interpreted it wrong.
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You probably need to play more fallout considering there are usable nukes in basically every FO game.
 

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Come on Sterge we’re messing up the thread, let’s not do this. You’re a respected bigfooty mod, you’re better than this.

Let’s just both agree you’re wrong, you don’t know what you’re talking about, you saw the kotaku link and complementary, well-constructed insight from myself and it made you sad, sad you couldn’t understand why not everyone was so cited’ bout’ the splosions’ like you were, frustrated you had to google ‘subtext’ and all those other big words, and then when you read more about nukes as a gameplay mechanic you incorrectly attributed to ‘story purpose’ you rushed over here with a flimsy plan to make the mean internet person eat his mean internet words, it backfired, and now we’re here.

It could happen to anyone really.
 
SwampCreature said:
Come on Sterge we’re messing up the thread, let’s not do this. You’re a respected bigfooty mod, you’re better than this.

Let’s just both agree you’re wrong, you don’t know what you’re talking about, you saw the kotaku link and complementary, well-constructed insight from myself and it made you sad, sad you couldn’t understand why not everyone was so cited’ bout’ the splosions’ like you were, frustrated you had to google ‘subtext’ and all those other big words, and then when you read more about nukes as a gameplay mechanic you incorrectly attributed to ‘story purpose’ you rushed over here with a flimsy plan to make the mean internet person eat his mean internet words, it backfired, and now we’re here.

It could happen to anyone really.
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Yawn, you know you have lost when you resort to personal attacks.

Anyway they have literally said the nukes form part of the endgame for players the ground is opening up and the massive reskinned dragons from skyrim are coming out the purpose is to nuke them to to close the fissures up and stop the mobs, this is turn creates a high level zone with better loot etc. Over time the rads go away and it goes back to normal.


but sure nukes go against the whole fallout backstory

fallout 1 you can nuke the master
fallout 2 you can nuke the enclave
fallout 3 there is a nuke in the middle of megaton
New Vegas has nukes in the main game and the DLC

At the end of the day it's an online game and they need repeatable end game content to keep it interesting for people


You don't have to like it no one is stopping you from not playing it.
 

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Sterge said:
fallout 1 you can nuke the master
fallout 2 you can nuke the enclave
fallout 3 there is a nuke in the middle of megaton
New Vegas has nukes in the main game and the DLC
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Yes that’s not the point

The point is the subtext, ie - should you be doing those things with those nukes? Is the price you pay worth it? Does tech, culture, exceptionalism or ultimate weapons make you ‘better’ than your opponents, or just the only one left alive? What does this say about the use of these forces IRL? Is this new civ any better than the old civ, or even our actual civ?

Does war ever really change?

Of course it’s not subtext at all if you have to say it

Sigh, read the piece. Anyway let’s let it go.
 
SwampCreature said:
Yes that’s not the point

The point is the subtext, ie - should you be doing those things with those nukes? Is the price you pay worth it? Does tech, culture, exceptionalism or ultimate weapons make you ‘better’ than your opponents, or just the only one left alive? What does this say about the use of these forces IRL? Is this new civ any better than the old civ, or even our actual civ?

Does war ever really change?

Of course it’s not subtext at all if you have to say it

Sigh, read the piece. Anyway let’s let it go.
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The world was destroyed in the first place, by warring countries in an ever escalating arms race, trying to outdo each other with bigger, more powerful threats. Inevitably leading to the nukes being launched.

20 years later, the lucky survivors bunkered down in the control vaults emerge to the wasteland and attempt to rebuild society to how they knew it once was. Except, they don't all agree on exactly how the world should be rebuilt. They start to group up and build their own settlements. There's fighting and griefing (you know, because online video game). Petty fights turn into raids that turn into war. An ever escalating arms race, trying to outdo each other with bigger, more powerful threats. Inevitably leading to the nukes being launched. Because war... War never changes.

Sounds like Bethesda understands the "subtext" just fine. Pre-war people solving problems with pre-war solutions, not yet comprehending the failures of the old world. Maybe Kotaku journalists don't know everything.
 

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