Fat Acceptance - Problem or not

[Catfish Alley]

That's kind of what sprang to mind. I thought the story is now just a woman cleaning the house of some fifo workers.

 

[perthblue]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/snow-white-remake-criticised-fat-shaming/
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The new Snow White film is being criticised for fat shaming, which i think is unfair as the film is supposed to be a parody.

apparently it is now controversial to say that fat is not beautiful, fmd. that tess holiday chick is more dangerous to young overweight/obese women than this snow white cartoon.

 

[Catfish Alley]

Probably fair enough for a South Korean film targeted to kids. They've got some proper gender equality issues there.

 

[BotsMaster]

apparently it is now controversial to say that fat is not beautiful, fmd. that tess holiday chick is more dangerous to young overweight/obese women than this snow white cartoon.

Says she's a plus-sized model. Which is another way of saying she's fat?

 

[Scotland]

She's not fat, she's beautiful by realistic standards. Gosh.

 

[emuboy]

I find that fat people receive more protection from discrimination than skinny people.

As a hypothetical, say an organization is having a staff Christmas lunch. Two of the employees are Jane, who is slim, and Joanne, who is obese.

When Jane orders a healthy chicken salad, Joanne jokes that Jane should instead order the large slow-cooked ribs with double chips and a side order of garlic bread as she needs to fatten up. Now reverse the situation - Joanne is ordering her high calorie lunch, and Jane says as a joke that Joanne should have the chicken salad with no dressing as Joanne needs to lose weight.

Jane would not be judged well by other co-workers for her comments, and could well find herself in hot water for her joke. But if Jane had made an issue of Joanne calling her skinny, again it would be Jane that came off worse with people saying she is too sensitive and takes herself way too seriously.

 

[dumb]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/snow-white-remake-criticised-fat-shaming/
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The new Snow White film is being criticised for fat shaming, which i think is unfair as the film is supposed to be a parody.

it's all in the wording really, which is what a lot of what constitutes offense these days, semantics.
change the 'no longer beautiful' reference and it would get revered by mummy-bloggers the world over for including a 'normal person'.

 

[dumb]

Oh WTF. I'm more worried about the pilot suddenly converting and deliberately crashing than the inconvenience of sitting 12 hours next to some random fatty. Cheap airfares. You get what you pay for.

my post wasn't about sitting next to an obese person. it's about the cumulative effect of obese people on take-off loads (which i admit is more a problem on smaller planes rather than larger ones as the average weight smooths out)

http://nypost.com/2016/10/05/airport-starts-weighing-fat-passengers-before-flights/

 

[JG22]

I find that fat people receive more protection from discrimination than skinny people.

As a hypothetical, say an organization is having a staff Christmas lunch. Two of the employees are Jane, who is slim, and Joanne, who is obese.

When Jane orders a healthy chicken salad, Joanne jokes that Jane should instead order the large slow-cooked ribs with double chips and a side order of garlic bread as she needs to fatten up. Now reverse the situation - Joanne is ordering her high calorie lunch, and Jane says as a joke that Joanne should have the chicken salad with no dressing as Joanne needs to lose weight.

Jane would not be judged well by other co-workers for her comments, and could well find herself in hot water for her joke. But if Jane had made an issue of Joanne calling her skinny, again it would be Jane that came off worse with people saying she is too sensitive and takes herself way too seriously.

Often agree, but that's just somewhat how society works, people don't see it perhaps as much.

There's more obese people around than anorexics so they're more of a shock to the system

 

[Paul Kersey]

I find that fat people receive more protection from discrimination than skinny people.

As a hypothetical, say an organization is having a staff Christmas lunch. Two of the employees are Jane, who is slim, and Joanne, who is obese.

When Jane orders a healthy chicken salad, Joanne jokes that Jane should instead order the large slow-cooked ribs with double chips and a side order of garlic bread as she needs to fatten up. Now reverse the situation - Joanne is ordering her high calorie lunch, and Jane says as a joke that Joanne should have the chicken salad with no dressing as Joanne needs to lose weight.

Jane would not be judged well by other co-workers for her comments, and could well find herself in hot water for her joke. But if Jane had made an issue of Joanne calling her skinny, again it would be Jane that came off worse with people saying she is too sensitive and takes herself way too seriously.

Haha. Seen the 'what the hell is that' from a fatty to someone eating something healthy way too many times.

 

[the_interloper]

Haha. Seen the 'what the hell is that' from a fatty to someone eating something healthy way too many times.

I hate eating something healthy at work, people always comment on it.

 

[emuboy]

Haha. Seen the 'what the hell is that' from a fatty to someone eating something healthy way too many times.

Yeah - I've seen that too.

Have you also noticed that a problem with a person being underweight will be addressed but rarely if ever will a person's obesity be addressed?

Using the two hypothetical girls from my previous example, say underweight Jane loses even more weight. Colleagues will be concerned and some may address the issue directly with her. It is likely if it continues that Jane may find herself called to a meeting with HR and her line manager and queried if she has an undisclosed illness, if she has problems outside of work or if she requires counselling or some other type of employee support.

With the overweight Joanne, if she begins eating even more and moves from the obese to the dangerously obese category nobody would dare say anything, and it is unlikely that HR or management would become involved, fearing a discrimination complaint.

 

[00Stinger]

Society has told people its fine to be fat

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[Reynolds Number]

Some people are better off eating themselves to an early grave.

 

[Scotland]

With the overweight Joanne, if she begins eating even more and moves from the obese to the dangerously obese category nobody would dare say anything, and it is unlikely that HR or management would become involved, fearing a discrimination complaint.

She's not overweight, she's realistically beautiful.

This is a prime example of why we have a 'fat acceptance - problem or not?' thread. It's taboo to point out that people are fat and that is unhealthy.

 

[Scotland]

I hate eating something healthy at work, people always comment on it.

'On a diet are ya?'
'Geez you're eating healthy'
'I wish I had the time to make that'

 

[BotsMaster]

Seems fat shaming does encourage weight loss
http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/fi...e/news-story/d04723be34afd4fcd218f722db239bc4

A SIZE 22 student was fat-shamed into losing 54 kilos after she was mistaken for being heavily pregnant on public transport twice.

 

[Catfish Alley]

Being offered a seat would have been humiliating but not really the bullying that people associate with the term ‘fat shaming’.

 

[perthblue]

Fat shaming is certainly better than being told you're perfect the way you are and that beauty is a social construct

 

[Catfish Alley]

Fat shaming is certainly better than being told you're perfect the way you are and that beauty is a social construct

Depends on context I guess. Asking a friend or relative if they want to join a gym and get fit together is fine. Telling a random person they disgust you is not.

 

[Jade]

Depends on context I guess. Asking a friend or relative if they want to join a gym and get fit together is fine. Telling a random person they disgust you is not.

True that.

Having reed thin models, and trying to pass off these skin and bone women as the epitome of beauty is crap.

However in the same way, telling people that are clearly overweight that people should just accept them for who they are... nuh-uh, you're fat and unhealthy.

 

[HairyO]

Says she's a plus-sized model. Which is another way of saying she's fat?

There are plus sized models and PLUS SIZED models.

I have a cousin who is a plus sized model and she would barely be on the healthy weight range - probably a bit under weight. But unlike most models actually has breasts and hips - which I think is the definition of plus sized.

And despite the fact that they are "plus sized" they still had all sorts of restrictions on them so when she would travel around Europe and sharing rooms with other models, so many of them had serious eating disorders and drug habits.

PLUS SIZED on the other hand is a few morbidly obese women who are seriously unhealthy that somehow someone decided should be famous - probably because the fashion industry wanted a distraction away from the fact that they drive women to early deaths through starvation.

But Im not sure driving women to early deaths through seriously unhealthy eating is any better.

 

[Jade]

I have a cousin who is a plus sized model and she would barely be on the healthy weight range - probably a bit under weight. But unlike most models actually has breasts and hips - which I think is the definition of plus sized.

So in other words she's a normal sized woman?

 

[HairyO]

So in other words she's a normal sized woman?

Yep. As I said, the fashion industry definition of "plus size" really is what most people would consider normal or healthy. Its the "PLUS SIZE" that is really only a handful of massively overweight women - and anyone daring to question whether it is any better than the massively underweight women gets attacked for fat shaming.

 

[Jade]

Will never understand WHY we got to a point where skin and bone somehow became the idea of beauty to aspire to.

I'm yet to meet a straight man who preferred that to a woman with curves.