Fitness coach Burgess

[nintiwirri]

Is this the new fitness coach since the premiership year?
My memory is slipping.
I think it may be the original returned?If not ?What was the premiership year fitness blokes name again?

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Andrew Russell was the premiership fitness coach. He's still at Hawthorn. Burgess is the guy who replaced him.

 

[nintiwirri]

Thanks mate
I just couldn't remember the original blokes name.
Burgess copped a bit of a caning from supporters early because the players didn't seem fit I remember.

 

[missionpossible]

You remember correctly.

I think Burgess has gone through a steep learning curve over the last two years and from here on in we should see why the club wanted him.

Like every role in AFL football it is almost impossible to jump into the job and hit the ground running. The important thing is to get people who will evolve faster than the game so that they become the leading edge. The last thing you need at a club is to have someone who sticks his head into the sand and sticks to the same old thing.

I love how this year he seems to have grown a leg and is getting involved with the media. Mark Williams seems to have deliberately backed away from media duties and given all the other coaches the oppurtunity to communicate through the media.

I think everyone who has gone down to training is commenting that the boys look bigger, stronger but more importantly quicker and fitter.

2007 although it is likely to be a roller coaster ride to 8th or 9th one just gets the feeling this year could bring something special.

 

[Toots Hibbert]

I seem to recall that Burgess came across from the Swans?

 

[missionpossible]

I seem to recall that Burgess came across from the Swans?

IIRC he had been an asistant fitness person at the swans but at the time he was doing work at the SA institute of sport.

Not a 100% on that but I dont think he came directly from the swans and I dont think he was their head fitness guy. someone is bound to know more than me so they can set us on the correct path.

 

[portentous]

I thought he had some ties to soccer from some reason too.

 

[Malibu#27]

Yep - I'm pretty sure his origins were whichever soccer club used to play at Nth Sydney oval rather than the Swans.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Here's the original thread on the Burgess appointment.

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/20...316775509.html

Port appoints new fitness coach

Port Adelaide has appointed Darren Burgess as its new fitness coach for the 2005 AFL season.

The club said Burgess, currently lecturing at the Australian Catholic University's school of exercise science in Sydney, would replace Andrew Russell, who recently returned to Victoria for family reasons.

Burgess has also worked with the Parramatta Power Soccer Club, the Australian Olympic soccer team in the lead-up to the Athens Games and with the Sydney Swans.

He was expected to take up his position with the AFL premiers in November.

 

[Malibu#27]

Here's the original thread on the Burgess appointment.

Yep - well I'm happy to bow to facts over my dodgy memory!

 

[missionpossible]

Yep - well I'm happy to bow to facts over my dodgy memory!

DITTO

 

[Toots Hibbert]

Seems to like the Power clubs. I went to the Port site to check but couldn't find anything on him. Hopefully we'll get more info on the site this year.

 

[portentous]

Here's the original thread on the Burgess appointment.

So we were ALL right.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

I thought this might be the best place to put this article from today's Oz regarding injuries. Darren Burgess and Choco went to AC Milan to check out their $150 million training and lab complex and it has left the biggest impression on Burgess.

From the Advertiser story last year, I've lost the link but saved the story;
Edit link

Significant in the Milan system is how injuries have been reduced by 92 per cent in the past four years. "Obviously," says Burgess, "they are doing something right, particularly when they are playing three games a week."

Burgess' conclusion is that AC Milan monitors its players better than any other sporting club – including in their sleep – and has the best information to prepare them for play.

"In this pre-season, our training won't change much but the way we monitor our players will," Burgess said. "It will be more obvious during the season than in the pre-season."

Looks like Sydney are 1 year ahead of us and St Kilda have implememnted their own system.

http://theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,21160910-2722,00.html

Fitness becomes a matter of computing
Chip Le Grand
February 03, 2007

IN its most basic form, Australian football has never been anything more than a contest for the ball.

But in the fast-moving, cash-rich environment of AFL clubs, the hottest competition right now is for better, faster information. The Sydney Swans, grand finalists of the past two years, were ahead in this game last year when they sent a delegation to Italy to study the injury management secrets of Serie A giant AC Milan.

The result was a computer program that the Swans' fitness staff claim can help predict a hamstring tear before it happens.

Since then, rival clubs have not stood idle. While the Swans were reaping the benefits of their Italian job, St Kilda was developing software of its own in partnership with Athletic Logic, a Sydney based IT company.

That software is now complete. The result has been a blessedly injury-free pre-season program for a team previously beset by torn muscles and broken bones.

Such has been the Saints' golden run that, when Nick Riewoldt lurched at a low ball at training this week and tore his hamstring, he became the first St Kilda player to sustain a significant soft tissue injury all summer.

The only hiccup was yesterday's decision by conditioning coach Craig Starcevich to quit the club to spend more time with his Brisbane-based family but even that news did not come as a shock.

Starcevich had not been at Moorabbin since Christmas and the players had already completed the pre-season running program he devised. Since October, physiotherapist Andy Weller has managed the club's elite performance department.

The Saints' software is purpose designed to keep more players on the field for more of the season.

Last year the Saints' premiership campaign was cruelled by serious injuries to Lenny Hayes, Matt Maguire, Raphael Clarke and Aaron Hamill.

Since the start of pre-season training, the club has used the software to tailor and modify the training loads of every player.

The difference with the Sydney system - or the reams of information collected and analysed by Adelaide Crows coach Neil Craig and his sports science team - is that the players enter the data themselves, after every training session, via a touch-pad screen on one of four computer tablets.................

 

[Ford Fairlane]

If we have as good a run with injuries as Sydney had last year I'll take that. Mind u all the software in the world won't predict impact injuries or PBBF's ...

 

[Sandola]

If we have as good a run with injuries as Sydney had last year I'll take that. Mind u all the software in the world won't predict impact injuries or PBBF's ...

Watch your mouth, there, FF. Let the past be the past, and watch a true champion in his prime in 2007.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

I think Peter Burgoyne is a tremendously talented footballer, but I didn't know that placed him above any sort of critical analysis, no matter how lighthearted. After all, it's not as if we're dealing with an N=1 of brain fades.

 

[Toots Hibbert]

Buddies! Sometimes they get a bit carried away.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

If we have as good a run with injuries as Sydney had last year I'll take that. Mind u all the software in the world won't predict impact injuries or PBBF's ...

You are guaranteed at least one BBF per game. When, where and how critical, no software could predict with any acuracey. Maybe a random number generator program would be the best bet.

 

[Portia]

The reason for BBFs is that Peter is a player that isn't sure how good he is, so he keeps pushing his luck, game by game, until he is attempting something that clearly no human could achieve.

Its about a five game cycle where he gradually gets better, has one really good game, but keeps pushing and gets caught and then its back to the start of the cycle again.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

And that doesn't take into account his almost annual tribunal visit (which he did avoid last year, mind you he only played 10 games). 5 suspensions and 2 fines from 2001-05.

 

[Sandola]

Buddies! Sometimes they get a bit carried away.

Thanks, Toots. I've been trying to learn from your example (always emulate the best), but obviously I have a long way to go.

Porthos has nailed the BBF causation. We'll find out this year whether maturity has evened him out a little.

FF: yeah, but I still can't believe he got suspended for that knee. Weak!

 

[missionpossible]

I cant beleive he got done for the knee, all they had to go to the tribunal and say there was no intent to mae contact just wanted to mae the opponent think I was going to give him a dead leg if he kept goin

I also am still ********ty over the kerr tackle, one of the best bits of football I have seen and kerr was never in danger of having anything other than the wind knocked out of him.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

I think Burgs was very unlucky with the tribunal early in his career - the charging calls against Johnson and Wilson were dodgy at best, but the trouble is once they were in the record (plus a melee fine) he had a reputation. The spear tackle against Kerr was unlucky, with Primus flipping Kerr over, but it pretty much cemented his reputation. The kneeing charge was weak, but the trouble was by then he had that reputation and just had to show his face at the tribunal to get rubbed out. So by his BFs I meant more getting himself rubbed out, but moreso over innocuous things that if he just didn't do them he wouldn't be in a position to give the MRP the opportunity to cite him. Like the knee thing - yes it was a weak suspension, but I remember Steve Silvagni saying once, you just shouldn't put yourself in the position to give them the chance to penalise you - and there was nothing to be gained by doing it. The odd brain fade getting caught with the ball, well that happens with players that take the game on, it's exciting to watch but you have to be prepared to accept that it won't come off all the time.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

I think I've had a Sunday morning/arvo BF. What was the knee incident again?