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Masher said:
Will Slartibartfast be equally mocking of Aboriginal customs against homosexual lifestyle as he is of religion in general?
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Who?
 
Masher said:
Will Slartibartfast be equally mocking of Aboriginal customs against homosexual lifestyle as he is of religion in general?
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"scores of Aboriginal elders have spoken out against same-sex marriage " Is the view I was saying is intolerant.

Religious magical explanations for natural phenomena are just silly, not intolerant.
 
Masher said:
A man or woman is born with gay desires so has gay sex

Why can't a man or woman be born with a desire to not be monogomous and therefore fornicates with many people???

What about a bisexual does he/she have a choice or can they be born that way???
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You choose to sleep with multi people or cheat on your significant other...

You don’t choose who you’re attracted to.....

Trying to link adulterers as being biologically hardwire is pretty laughable, a more apt argument would be along the lines of sex addiction but even then there’s a degree of Choices.

You’re just trying to justify hate speech
 
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Strange Cat said:
You choose to sleep with multi people or cheat on your significant other...

You don’t choose who you’re attracted to.....

Trying to link adulterers as being biologically hardwire is pretty laughable, a more apt argument would be along the lines of sex addiction but even then there’s a degree of Choices.
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You contradict yourself but you're too biased to know - so only gays are hard wired and everyone else is a choice.

Of course choice comes into it but for some very weird evolutionary process only gays are hard wired - that's totally unscientific. Keep deluding yourself to justify your opinions
 
We all hate pedophilia and there is NEVER any excuse for it to happen and neither do I equate gays with pedophiles
but there is scientific evidence that some are born that way and their desires were to have sex with children

There are pedophiles who have never harmed a child but acknowledge there is a inner attraction they struggle with
Don't argue with me argue with the scientists doing studies

Many want to reject this because they only want gays as hard wired as it fits their ideology.
It is illogical for other humans to not be hard wired to some extent - why are gays a special case
 
Masher said:
You contradict yourself but you're too biased to know - so only gays are hard wired and everyone else is a choice.

Of course choice comes into it but for some very weird evolutionary process only gays are hard wired - that's totally unscientific. Keep deluding yourself to justify your opinions
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There are genetic markers for addiction as well, I'm from a long and mostly honourable line of degenerates.
 
Gough said:
There are genetic markers for addiction as well, I'm from a long and mostly honourable line of degenerates.
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Well you clearly contradict the point of others who only accept gays as hard wired
Therefore their argument that all the other 7 sins Israel mentioned are a choice is false
 
Strange Cat said:
You choose to sleep with multi people or cheat on your significant other...

You don’t choose who you’re attracted to.....

Trying to link adulterers as being biologically hardwire is pretty laughable, a more apt argument would be along the lines of sex addiction but even then there’s a degree of Choices.

You’re just trying to justify hate speech
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In Christianity it is not the loving the man or woman that is the sin though, it is the sexual acts which are the sin. Those acts are very much a choice
 
The fact of the matter is that Izzy doesn't hate gays because if he did he would single them out and deliberately try to antagonize and make them feel bad for their attraction, his faith shouldn't be a factor in ending his career in sport. The fact that same-sex marriage is culturally acceptable is what Izzy is against he doesn't hate them, but by posting on Twitter what he posted was trying to get them to turn from the ways. I admire the man, he is so devout that he is putting his career on the line for his faith, in a way its martyrdom but I'm sure God admires him for it.
 
Downhill Skier said:
In Christianity it is not the loving the man or woman that is the sin though, it is the sexual acts which are the sin. Those acts are very much a choice
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If a man lies with another he must be stoned. Done that many a time.
 
Masher said:
Well you clearly contradict the point of others who only accept gays as hard wired
Therefore their argument that all the other 7 sins Israel mentioned are a choice is false
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Being an alcoholic is not the same as being gay even if there is a genetic predisposition in some people.

Downhill Skier said:
In Christianity it is not the loving the man or woman that is the sin though, it is the sexual acts which are the sin. Those acts are very much a choice
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so wouldn't fornicators have covered everything then?

Downhill Skier said:
In Christianity it is not the loving the man or woman that is the sin though, it is the sexual acts which are the sin. Those acts are very much a choice
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yes and having sex other than to procreate within a marriage is bad because reasons....
 
Masher said:
You contradict yourself but you're too biased to know - so only gays are hard wired and everyone else is a choice.

Of course choice comes into it but for some very weird evolutionary process only gays are hard wired - that's totally unscientific. Keep deluding yourself to justify your opinions
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I hope you don’t reproduce

You’re clearly trying to state that honesexuality is a choice rather than a biologically matter

But hey feel free to hate whoever you want I just find it laughably sad that you’re trying to justify IF hate speech
 

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Masher said:
Will Slartibartfast be equally mocking of Aboriginal customs against homosexual lifestyle as he is of religion in general?
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Aboriginal people dont get up on a podium and suggest it is an evil and they will go to hell for it. They dont agree with it but they still hold their beliefs .

You dont have to tell me what to angry about, what you do need to do is accept when you embrace an intolerant attitude people will question you and want to discuss the issue . If you are unable to do this calmly you should avoid such discussions.
 
Masher said:
A man or woman is born with gay desires so has gay sex

Why can't a man or woman be born with a desire to not be monogomous and therefore fornicates with many people???

What about a bisexual does he/she have a choice or can they be born that way???
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Your really struggling with the idea that some people are born gay, it is not a choice .
 

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Downhill Skier said:
Well you need to speak to the Catholic Church, not me
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No I don't, you're the one in here arguing that he should be able to say it without repurcussion
 
masai said:
It’s called a contract.

We ( Rugby Australia ) will pay you ( Folau ) a million dollars a season, subject to you agreeing to the following conditions. These conditions include clauses relating to respect for others religion, sex, colour etc.

The agreement is signed by Folau.

Folau contravenes those conditions ( multiple times ), RA say thanks very much, but we are withdrawing the million dollar contract.

If you don’t like the contract conditions, so be it, but don’t expect to be paid a million dollars.
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Thanks actually wrong. You can't clause your way out of the law. That is ultimately what this about: the friction between religious freedom, anti-discrimination and contracts. Contracts will come a distant last if this goes to a real court.
 
Downhill Skier said:
I believe that yes but that’s not what I am arguing here. I am just pointing out what is classed as a sin
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I'm not sure what you're arguing then because you've gone off track from why homsexuals being on that list stood out as the item in question and the reason we have this thread and his position in the ARU is in question
 
Slartibartfast said:
Your really struggling with the idea that some people are born gay, it is not a choice .
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How did you come to that conclusion...I acknowledged people are born gay

But I also said that people are hard wired in other areas which science has proven.
You are the one disagreeing with science that people can be hard wired in non gay areas
 

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