Football Related Random Thread - PART 2

[dlanod]

If they go in the lions academy do we have every right to them as Hawthorn ala Sydney & Blakey?

Yes - the kids would get to choose between academy, father/son, and entering the draft.

 

[MSB ROYS]

Probably in the minority here but I feel like Hodge’s kids should end up at Hawthorn.

It would be their choice.

 

[Viceregal]

It would be their choice.

Hopefully at the time they are choosing Hawthorne looks like getting nowhere going backwards and the Lions are firing.

That being said if they had the choice and chose the Hawks very few would think anything but good of them if a little disappointed at our loss.

When it is something like Johnson's kid and the Dons NGA that would be less palatable.

 

[briztoon]

lol there’s some GC fans that are still dirty about not having access to Ashcroft any more.

We still have a couple of father son kids in their academy over the next couple of years.

 

[trikster]

If Matho is still alive then this was staged

 

[Mr Ripper]

Ten years ago today: the Sam Dawtry game.

 

[Gadzorks]

If Matho is still alive then this was staged

Definately. Matho with robbo's youngest.

 

[dlanod]

Not exactly football related, but I had to explain the derivation of "one armed bandit" to someone today.

God, I feel old sometimes.

(Reminded by one of the awful "bet with us" ads on Foxtel.)

 

[lionraven]

Not exactly football related, but I had to explain the derivation of "one armed bandit" to someone today.

God, I feel old sometimes.

(Reminded by one of the awful "bet with us" ads on Foxtel.)

Whats a 'one armed bandit'. Is it like a new fortnight pose?

 

[Viceregal]

Whats a 'one armed bandit'. Is it like a new fortnight pose?

Being facetious or serious question?

If serious then

 

[briztoon]

Whats a 'one armed bandit'. Is it like a new fortnight pose?

Poker machine.

 

[briztoon]

I expect to cop some flak for this.

And I do not know how to phrase this appropriately.


I know there are many Aboriginal people with lighter skin, but I find most of the “welcome to country elders” that represent the AFL very “white”, and they don’t really represent the traditional owners of our land, to my eyes.

 

[martinson]

I expect to cop some flak for this.

And I do not know how to phrase this appropriately.


I know there are many Aboriginal people with lighter skin, but I find most of the “welcome to country elders” that represent the AFL very “white”, and they don’t really represent the traditional owners of our land, to my eyes.

You're a lot braver than me.

 

[MSB ROYS]

The traditional owners are the traditional owners.

 

[Nunez]

I expect to cop some flak for this.

And I do not know how to phrase this appropriately.


I know there are many Aboriginal people with lighter skin, but I find most of the “welcome to country elders” that represent the AFL very “white”, and they don’t really represent the traditional owners of our land, to my eyes.

... what a strange, strange thing to say.

 

[M Malice]

All I have to say is I love wearing our Indigenous merchandise.

 

[Hollow Knight]

I expect to cop some flak for this.

And I do not know how to phrase this appropriately.


I know there are many Aboriginal people with lighter skin, but I find most of the “welcome to country elders” that represent the AFL very “white”, and they don’t really represent the traditional owners of our land, to my eyes.

The government actively kidnapped indigenous children as part of a systematic policy to breed out their dark skin over generations.

I’d start there to try and frame your understanding.

Then consider that cultural and kinship connections can be measured in many different ways other than very Eurocentric understandings such as the colour of your skin or in eugenics adjacent benchmarks based on fractions and “bloodlines”.

And if you want to go further back in time, consider that 100 years after European settlement, the indigenous population had been reduced by approximately 90 percent.

Colonial Frontier Massacres, Australia, 1780 to 1930

The chances of a line of descendants surviving the violence and disease of settlement, then at least half a century of frontier msssacres, then not sexually intermixing with non-indigenous people (either via the Stolen Generations, sexual assault on the frontier, or voluntarily) by the year 2022…

Pretty remote.

It’s a very odd critique to put out there.

 

[Elixuh]

I expect to cop some flak for this.

And I do not know how to phrase this appropriately.


I know there are many Aboriginal people with lighter skin, but I find most of the “welcome to country elders” that represent the AFL very “white”, and they don’t really represent the traditional owners of our land, to my eyes.

Instead of making ignorant comments and prefacing it by some wet fish “I’m going to cop some flak for this” why don’t you educate yourself?

Really shit comment briztoon. Stick to talking about the draft.

 

[briztoon]

Instead of making ignorant comments and prefacing it by some wet fish “I’m going to cop some flak for this” why don’t you educate yourself?

Really s**t comment briztoon. Stick to talking about the draft.

How is it a shit comment when it sounded like two of the participants on different nights, sounded like they were reciting a learned script and didn’t actually know the language they were speaking.

Hollow Knight I am very much aware of what happened to Aboriginal peoples in Australia. Back in the 80’s my mother did an Aboriginal rangers course, and I traveled all over QLD with my mum, visiting many communities and sites, learning about their cultures and their histories.

I am saying that it would be nice to see people more representative of the traditional owners of our land, rather than people that could be mistaken for being European.

 

[BRAB]

How is it a s**t comment when it sounded like two of the participants on different nights, sounded like they were reciting a learned script and didn’t actually know the language they were speaking.

Hollow Knight I am very much aware of what happened to Aboriginal peoples in Australia. Back in the 80’s my mother did an Aboriginal rangers course, and I traveled all over QLD with my mum, visiting many communities and sites, learning about their cultures and their histories.

I am saying that it would be nice to see people more representative of the traditional owners of our land, rather than people that could be mistaken for being European.

Why are you questioning the aboriginality of somebody just because of the way they look?

 

[Hollow Knight]

Hollow Knight I am very much aware of what happened to Aboriginal peoples in Australia. Back in the 80’s my mother did an Aboriginal rangers course, and I traveled all over QLD with my mum, visiting many communities and sites, learning about their cultures and their histories.

I am saying that it would be nice to see people more representative of the traditional owners of our land, rather than people that could be mistaken for being European.

Well I raised specific historical context to explain why what you feel to be “representative” isn’t actually accurate, nor possible in most cases.

I don’t think you really seem interested in engaging with it which now makes me question your motives in the original post.

As a history teacher, I gave your intentions the benefit of the doubt but your follow-up now makes me wonder.

 

[rye]

the colour of an aboriginal Australian's skin does not determine how connected they are to their indigenous heritage

 

[Nunez]

How is it a s**t comment when it sounded like two of the participants on different nights, sounded like they were reciting a learned script and didn’t actually know the language they were speaking.

Hollow Knight I am very much aware of what happened to Aboriginal peoples in Australia. Back in the 80’s my mother did an Aboriginal rangers course, and I traveled all over QLD with my mum, visiting many communities and sites, learning about their cultures and their histories.

I am saying that it would be nice to see people more representative of the traditional owners of our land, rather than people that could be mistaken for being European.

I didn't think you could make a shit take even worse, but here we are.

 

[Elixuh]

How is it a s**t comment when it sounded like two of the participants on different nights, sounded like they were reciting a learned script and didn’t actually know the language they were speaking.

Hollow Knight I am very much aware of what happened to Aboriginal peoples in Australia. Back in the 80’s my mother did an Aboriginal rangers course, and I traveled all over QLD with my mum, visiting many communities and sites, learning about their cultures and their histories.

I am saying that it would be nice to see people more representative of the traditional owners of our land, rather than people that could be mistaken for being European.

So in summary, you would like Indigenous people to appear and act in a way which confirms your stereotypes of Indigenous people? Your views are ****ed dude.

 

[The Flying Belgian]

How is it a s**t comment when it sounded like two of the participants on different nights, sounded like they were reciting a learned script and didn’t actually know the language they were speaking.

Hollow Knight I am very much aware of what happened to Aboriginal peoples in Australia. Back in the 80’s my mother did an Aboriginal rangers course, and I traveled all over QLD with my mum, visiting many communities and sites, learning about their cultures and their histories.

I am saying that it would be nice to see people more representative of the traditional owners of our land, rather than people that could be mistaken for being European.

So you're wondering why representatives of traditional lands that have are now urban areas dominated by the descendants of European immigrants aren't more dark-skinned like those in more remote communities? And you're also asking that they should engage in some more pubic speaking training?

Perhaps give it all a bit more thought.