Football Related Random Thread - PART 2

[Nathan Barley]

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I agree the weights aren't necessarily accurate all the time, but they are indicative.

I'm hoping the photos come through okay, but take away the weights and then compare Brandon Zerk Thatcher to Tom Hawkins. Their heights are very close and yet even the "inaccurate" listed weights give an added layer of information when comparing the players and understanding what type of players they are.

I don't think the accuracy of the players weights serves any justification to completely removing the stat all together.

Back in the old radio days maybe

Don't think anyone's surprised about those weights

 

[Dom PC]

Back in the old radio days maybe

Don't think anyone's surprised about those weights

Not many fans could tell Zerk Thatcher from a bar of soap. That would also be applicable for so many players.

So when you see the teams listed, what are commentators and fans ment to refer to to see who has the size advantage?

If you say look at their heights, then that logic completely falls through when you compare the height of Hipwood vs Hawkins. As it would suggest Hipwood will monster Hawkins.

 

[Nathan Barley]

Not many fans could tell Zerk Thatcher from a bar of soap. That would also be applicable for so many players.

So when you see the teams listed, what are commentators and fans ment to refer to to see who has the size advantage?

If you say look at their heights, then that logic completely falls through when you compare the height of Hipwood vs Hawkins. As it would suggest Hipwood will monster Hawkins.

No idea

 

[Jivlain]

No idea

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A bar of soap tackling a puddle of oil, who would win?

 

[SizeMatters]

The AFL really is a pathetic run organisation. Is there any major national sporting code so poorly run and operated? I’m turning more and more towards the NBA and that’s flipping saying something. It’s a shit show over there but still ahead of the AFL. Ffs… banning clubs from releasing player weights for no apparent reason?

How about they enshrine a set of rules and regulations around clubs updating heights and weights annually instead?

But nah some nuffy nobody got offended online so they canned it. Get a grip.

 

[briztoon]

 

[Mighty Lions]

The AFL really is a pathetic run organisation. Is there any major national sporting code so poorly run and operated? I’m turning more and more towards the NBA and that’s *ing saying something. It’s a s**t show over there but still ahead of the AFL. Ffs… banning clubs from releasing player weights for no apparent reason?

How about they enshrine a set of rules and regulations around clubs updating heights and weights annually instead?

But nah some nuffy nobody got offended online so they canned it. Get a grip.

In my opinion the AFL is by far the most professionally run sporting organisation in this country. I'm surprised you continue to follow our club & the people in it and the game as a whole. You should find something else (like the NBA) that will make you happy as it appears all our great game & club does for you is piss you off. Everyone deserves to be happy in their life. Life is a gift so get out there and find something in it that can make you feel great.
The weight issue to me is very precious but it doesn't piss me off like it has you and others. Like Nathan Barley and others have said, the weight & height stat is 99% innacurate anyway so don't let it upset you big boy.

 

[Viceregal]

Does this mean that pick of D Jarman will be banned from BigFooty now?

 

[The Flying Belgian]

The AFL really is a pathetic run organisation. Is there any major national sporting code so poorly run and operated? I’m turning more and more towards the NBA and that’s *ing saying something. It’s a s**t show over there but still ahead of the AFL. Ffs… banning clubs from releasing player weights for no apparent reason?

How about they enshrine a set of rules and regulations around clubs updating heights and weights annually instead?

But nah some nuffy nobody got offended online so they canned it. Get a grip.

And now you're some nuffy who's getting offended online. The circle is complete.

I am infinitely amused at all these harden-up anti-woke warriors who complain the second something is changed. If they were truly tough, they would wear the change in stoic silence, surely?

 

[briztoon]

And now you're some nuffy who's getting offended online. The circle is complete.

I am infinitely amused at all these harden-up anti-woke warriors who complain the second something is changed. If they were truly tough, they would wear the change in stoic silence, surely?

Those types aren’t on social media.

 

[Section 5]

I would have preferred the AFL to still list the players weights.
That is just my preference although i have previously stated i won't lose any sleep over the decision.
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opinion

Why recently retired ex-captain understands the AFL’s controversial player weight call

“There are issues around eating with athletes.”

www.sen.com.au

 

[Grasshopper17]

So we should give all the idiots that support the AFL whatever they want?

It's relevant but it's also an outcome of the stuff clubs are more interested in but unlikely to share. Probably hence why they don't share accurate weights

While attendances are high and ratings are good, the AFL and its major corporate supporters can (and will) continue to treat all football supporters like idiots, and we've seen a great example of it here.

That's why I'd love to see the AFL Fans Association gain in prominence. We've let the tail wag the dog for so long that we've assumed it's the natural way of things. The players association was largely treated with disdain by the governing body/ies for many years until it got its act together. No reason why with the right approach, the fans association can't achieve the same prominence.

But until it does, we voluntarily hand the reigns of control over to the AFL, the clubs and the corporates, and endorse them treating us, all of us, like idiots. And that means we continue getting subpar outcomes like unfair fixtures aimed solely at maximising TV viewership, rubbish seat allocations at finals and other big games, and Brian Taylor on prime time TV.

 

[Nathan Barley]

While attendances are high and ratings are good, the AFL and its major corporate supporters can (and will) continue to treat all football supporters like idiots, and we've seen a great example of it here.

That's why I'd love to see the AFL Fans Association gain in prominence. We've let the tail wag the dog for so long that we've assumed it's the natural way of things. The players association was largely treated with disdain by the governing body/ies for many years until it got its act together. No reason why with the right approach, the fans association can't achieve the same prominence.

But until it does, we voluntarily hand the reigns of control over to the AFL, the clubs and the corporates, and endorse them treating us, all of us, like idiots. And that means we continue getting subpar outcomes like unfair fixtures aimed solely at maximising TV viewership, rubbish seat allocations at finals and other big games, and Brian Taylor on prime time TV.

I think your last paragraphs contradict the rest. The fixturing and Brian Taylor is tailored to the masses and what fans want

 

[martinson]

I think your last paragraphs contradict the rest. The fixturing and Brian Taylor is tailored to the masses and what fans want

I know the AFL and Channel 7 think that but if you talk to any footy follower from self righteous intellects like , well I was going to say me but I'll perhaps let that pass , to the pie scoffing loudmouth in the outer I've never heard anyone say they really like and appreciate BT. Most say they can't stand the drivel. Nearly everyone I've ever come across.

TV stations and organisations are so used to catering to the lowest common denominator they lose touch to and are tone deaf to the majority. It wouldn't matter who was commentating on Friday night they'd still get the same amount of people watching , probably just as many if no one was commentating.

BT is annoying . As for that bogan cliche riddled Brayshaw don't even start me. I have to watch it on mute. They have someone like Luke Hodge who makes pithy insightful comments every time he opens his mouth and they have his volume so low in the feed you can hardly understand what he says. Don't think Footy Production execs. are all that smarter than the hordes of other execs who misread the room.

As for the weight issue it's a nonsense that players can't be weighed and those weights released for whatever analysis anyone wants to do but if it hurts their feelings too much then it's not info I actually really need.

 

[Grasshopper17]

That old chestnut, that you dare get pissed off disagree with something the club or AFL does, no matter how pathetic that one should then be questioned that they shouldn’t follow the game or the club.

Perhaps read The Boys Club if you think the AFL is the greatest ran sports organisation out there world. Sure it is well run, but it could get be ran so much better if it also didn’t pander to every virtue signalling thing out there or simply and faultlessly look after its own.

The Boys Club is a really enlightening, not to mention quite confronting, read. Highly recommended. Could just as easily have called it Jobs For The Boys. And could probably quite easily put out a 2nd edition with extra chapters about more recent events.

 

[Mighty Lions]

That old chestnut, that you dare get pissed off disagree with something the club or AFL does, no matter how pathetic that one should then be questioned that they shouldn’t follow the game or the club.

Perhaps read The Boys Club if you think the AFL is the greatest ran sports organisation out there world. Sure it is well run, but it could get be ran so much better if it also didn’t pander to every virtue signalling thing out there or simply and faultlessly look after its own.

Hey old mate, re-read both posts again please.

It was he who suggested he should turn towards follow the NBA instead of the AFL/Lions not me.

I also did not say the AFL is the greatest ran sports organsation in the world..... I said in Australia. Once again not my words.

I've read the Boys Club and it was a fascinating read to say the least. Warner definately wanted to get some stuff off his chest and I am sure some (not all) has some truth to it. One persons side of an event is rarely 100% accurate...a bit like players weights & heights.

My post was genuine in saying he should follow something that makes him happy because the theme of his post was saying that. I was endorsing his disappointment in a small way.

 

[SizeMatters]

32 years a Bears/Lions fanatic and being told to go support something else... wow. Most of those 32 years have seen the Bears/Lions as a rabble of a club but I've been with them every day. The one main stay in my life as been this footy club. To suggest I just pack up and go 'support' something else out of 'happiness' is out of touch.

God forbid I comment on the way the league operates and suggest I watch and support other sporting codes.

 

[Elixuh]

32 years a Bears/Lions fanatic and being told to go support something else... wow. Most of those 32 years have seen the Bears/Lions as a rabble of a club but I've been with them every day. The one main stay in my life as been this footy club. To suggest I just pack up and go 'support' something else out of 'happiness' is out of touch.

God forbid I comment on the way the league operates and suggest I watch and support other sporting codes.

I don’t know why you get yourself so worked up Sizey.

 

[dlanod]

I don’t know why you get yourself so worked up Sizey.

Nah, stuff like "go support something else" or the other periodically popular "not a real supporter" is some gatekeeping sports really doesn't need. I'd get annoyed if someone said similar to me.

 

[Elixuh]

Nah, stuff like "go support something else" or the other periodically popular "not a real supporter" is some gatekeeping sports really doesn't need. I'd get annoyed if someone said similar to me.

You’re right and I agree with you. That wasn’t the intention of my post. I replied to the latest post which was misleading but was commenting on the chain of disproportionate outrage to player weights (which aren’t even accurate) being removed from publication. I should have replied to the initial rant.

SM can take that position but it’s ludicrous imo.

 

[BuntonRules]

32 years a Bears/Lions fanatic and being told to go support something else... wow. Most of those 32 years have seen the Bears/Lions as a rabble of a club but I've been with them every day. The one main stay in my life as been this footy club. To suggest I just pack up and go 'support' something else out of 'happiness' is out of touch.

God forbid I comment on the way the league operates and suggest I watch and support other sporting codes.

Hang in there SM. Everyone sees, and comments, from their own point of view.

When you are a die hard supporter, like us on here, your club is like your family. A lot of the time they give you the shits. They do things you may not approve of. They regularly let you down. But they are your blood. More power to you.

 

[Mighty Lions]

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32 years a Bears/Lions fanatic and being told to go support something else... wow. Most of those 32 years have seen the Bears/Lions as a rabble of a club but I've been with them every day. The one main stay in my life as been this footy club. To suggest I just pack up and go 'support' something else out of 'happiness' is out of touch.

God forbid I comment on the way the league operates and suggest I watch and support other sporting codes.

And I quote from YOUR post: " I am turning more and more to the NBA and thats * ing something"..... your words Champ.

Dont say stuff if you dont mean it or you dont want other posters to make further comment.

 

[Section 5]

A fox article that does not mention anything about the Lions, so i won't include a link.
However, i thought this was interesting.
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, Jamie Elliott and Charlie Dean — but are expected to return to the club in the next week.

 

[Section 5]

I stumbled across this YouTube video posted after the Lions won 7 in a row in 2019. We went on to extend that to 9.
They mentioned this was the first time the Lions had achieved this since R15- 21 in year 2002.

The video highlights are just from those 7 wins in 2002.
It is a great clip and a reminder of just how good that team was.
Lynch kicked 7,7 & 5 goals in the first of those 3 wins.
So many great players that we barely get a look at in the clip.
Present coaches and assistant coaches prominent in the clip.
Voss probably does not win a Brownlow if played under present rules. Or he just adapts and still wins.

 

[Black Magic 02]

I don't remember Vossy being so consistently effective up forward... but man there were some quality goals in that vid.