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Oh the irony of this - don't even bother hiding your biases "All-Australian team of Vic country players"



And then guys like Dunkley and Berry don't even make the team.....Lohmann I can understand, but still he played all games kicking 20+ gaols.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but since when is Edithvale or Aspendale in Vic remotely "country"?

Mount Eliza, Mornington and Geelong are country Victoria?Even Torquay is a stretch
 
Starcevich easily makes it my view and probably Lachie as well but I guess I'm bias. Was the Hawks win anymore dominant than ours? I don't think so.
I think we took the foot off the pedal a fair bit in the last quarter so it doesnt appear as dominant.

But yeah forgot about Starc he definitely should have been in.
 
Imagine this unstable nutjob as your coach


His players loved him to bits though.

there was also the time when he was coaching SF that he had some sort of suspension which stated he was not allowed on the ground. So he used a cherry picker sitting just inches above the ground to give his 1/4 time and 3/4 time addresses.
 
Joe from the "wrong side" pocket is elite >

https://www.afl.com.au/news/1222641...-for-brisbane-lions-against-gws-were-no-fluke

The AFL average for left footers taking set shots from that part of the ground - on the left-hand boundary line, 30m out and beyond – is just 37 per cent.

And this was Daniher, the ultimate 50-50 man if ever there was one.

But recent history shows we shouldn't have been surprised when the towering full-forward perfectly executed his drop punt to split the middle.

In five previous shots from that small part of the ground since moving to Brisbane ahead of the 2021 season, Daniher had nailed four of them. He now has five from six, an incredible strike rate of 83 per cent.

Not only did Daniher kick the two clutch goals against the Giants, he also did something few others have done in 2024 – beat Sam Taylor in a one-on-one.

The contested mark that preceded Daniher's final goal was just the third time this year Taylor had been beaten from 52 one-on-one contests.
 

Gerard Healy has had a go at the adjudicating of the push in the back rule in this article. He points out 5 examples over the weekend which all directly resulted in goals which brings me to my point... why would we want a rule so strictly enforced that it reduces the number of goals kicked? If we had it Healy's way, those goals wouldn't have been kicked.

I understand huge shove outs shouldn't be allowed, but holding your position and pushing should be okay IMO.
 

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Gerard Healy has had a go at the adjudicating of the push in the back rule in this article. He points out 5 examples over the weekend which all directly resulted in goals which brings me to my point... why would we want a rule so strictly enforced that it reduces the number of goals kicked? If we had it Healy's way, those goals wouldn't have been kicked.

I understand huge shove outs shouldn't be allowed, but holding your position and pushing should be okay IMO.

I think you need a clear line between a free being paid or not to avoid umps having to use their interpretation which is influence by the crowd or if a non Victorian team is playing. Which is why the hands in the back rule while frustrating actually gave a pretty consistent adjudication

They'll adjust and find other ways to get a shot on goal
 
I think you need a clear line between a free being paid or not to avoid umps having to use their interpretation which is influence by the crowd or if a non Victorian team is playing. Which is why the hands in the back rule while frustrating actually gave a pretty consistent adjudication

They'll adjust and find other ways to get a shot on goal
If you put your hands in someone's back via a push that clearly prevents them participating in the marking contest as they otherwise would've that should be a free kick surely. Otherwise why ever take the front position if you're able to be nudged out of the contest ?

The Payne one was as plain as day and the ump on hand either had a brain fade or they've been instructed not to worry about it too much.
 
I don't know if you are referring to the incident where Hogan pushed out Payne, but to me, that's in the back. If he'd used his body or even used his hands to hold his ground, then fine, but he squarley pushed Payne in the back and more horrifying from the camera angle is that the ump had a clear sight of it and did nothing.
Yep, IMO it is reasonably clear to define, if you are holding your ground you are not using a pushing motion with your hands/arms in the back.
 
Yep, IMO it is reasonably clear to define, if you are holding your ground you are not using a pushing motion with your hands/arms in the back.
This is the only recent video i can find regarding the "hands in the back" rule.
The video is all about rules in a marking contest. Six in total. Umpires have a lot to take in with a marking contest.
It is from 2019 when the interpretation changed, but believe it is still how umps are to adjudicate
A lot of years have passed and maybe with a bit of media attention lately they will go back to what it should be.

Basically, they are saying you can protect space with your hands, but no pushing motion.
The new interpretation was introduced for the 2019 season.
Video is 5 minutes but the hands in the back change is first. At 3.49 a push in the back again but not with hands.
Posters should have another look at the video to refresh memory on the six mentioned.

 
On an afl.com interview today Zac Butters revealed that he spoke with Lachie Neale re tactics to break tags.
 
On an afl.com interview today Zac Butters revealed that he spoke with Lachie Neale re tactics to break tags.
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Amazing the damage The Giesch and his 'unless the little old lady in the back row of the grandstand can see it, it shouldn't be a free kick' mantra has done to people's perception of what should and shouldn't be penalised. A push in the back is a push in the back. It's cheating. Penalise every one of them. God gave us bumper bars to protect the space. If you're not good enough to outposition your opponent without pushing them out of the way, TS.
 
Amazing the damage The Giesch and his 'unless the little old lady in the back row of the grandstand can see it, it shouldn't be a free kick' mantra has done to people's perception of what should and shouldn't be penalised. A push in the back is a push in the back. It's cheating. Penalise every one of them. God gave us bumper bars to protect the space. If you're not good enough to outposition your opponent without pushing them out of the way, TS.
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I'm more of a fan for whichever gives us more contested marks and goals. IMO that means you should be able to hold your position and push someone in the back (within reason). Just because that is difficult to adjudicate doesn't mean there should be a blanket rule against pushing someone in the back.

I think the AFL are close to finding a good balance in this case. The game is too congested to make contested marking even harder.
 

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