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Thematically Bell will save the Freo monorail if you follow it through.Nice GIF, it honestly gave me a laugh, of course Freo aint crashing.
Lets say worst case scenario, Lyon does a complete ninja departure and is coaching Carlton come Saturday, a few Saints fans have been bleeting on since late 2011 that he'd bail and leave our club in tatters.
Instead he's shown he might just be a capable rebuilder, Fremantle's list is in decent shape, can always be improved, and performances are on the up. Off field, we havent traded the future away with picks (missing some later rounds this year atm) and the club continues to be solid as when it comes to finances and memberships.
Lyon ain't leaving but if he did, the house is in order and it'd be one of the more attractive coaching positions available with a plan to be playing finals asap.
Good question.Wait, are we judging him on when Zac Dawson was playing or are we judging him on now?
We put away North and had a good margin on GWS at Canberra. Does that not count? The goal posts move all over the shop.Good question.
To me, his style hasn't changed that much over the years. The last two wins we had were good to see, but I think the same problems remain. We almost never put teams away and we are still grinding out narrow wins. Now sure that's better than narrow losses but it can only get you so far.
Listen, if I'm wrong then I'm wrong. It won't be such a bad thing if Ross proves me wrong and we go ahead and win a lot of games and play finals.
He's not the coach that I want at the club, but pphhththt, I don't run the place.
You do know that is not a quote from me don't you.It would probably be a good move for us and Carlton
Lyons been at Freo for ages , do you think we don't have all his defensive systems down pat ?
If we were forced to hire a more offensive coach would it be the end of the world ?
I love Perth , want to stay here long term blah blah
Next minute , coffees with Carlton
Soon as he could grab back some power with a couple of good but kinda lucky wins he straight away spins around and points it at Freo's head
He's a deadset W️
We put away North and had a good margin on GWS at Canberra. Does that not count? The goal posts move all over the shop.
The way I see it is you have a non-quantifiable view as to why you don't like him and you want to apply the evidence to fit your narrative. That is exactly why you sound like 95% of BF posters. It's totally fine not to like him, but that is not the same as him not being able to coach.
Besides Seeing West coast winning, you get your rocks off seeing Fellow freo supporters verbally tea bag each other, tough man tony abbott stylefreo spin cycle turned up full throttle
luckily freo supporters believe anything Lyon spouts
They still believe Lachie Neale left solely because of money..lol
serious head in the sand stuff
Explain please .... the link went nowhereYou do know that is not a quote from me don't you.
Don't bother I worked it outYou do know that is not a quote from me don't you.
Yep, that’s exactly why they caught up on Lygon st. It’s not like SOS has anything better to do with his time.Lyon having a coffee with Silvagni in Lygon St is cringeworthy stuff, like he doesn't know it's going to be seen and reported. Seriously. It's a transparent attempt to intimidate his own club in to signing him up for longer.
Now watch the freo board fall for it and offer him a further contract extension with big $$.
I look at Freos 2015 side, It was similar to Geelongs 2014 side. Both teams got top 4, both teams got 17 wins and both teams won 7 games by 2 goals or less.Yes, I suppose there was nothing wrong with the selection policies from 2014-2016.
Did you know we were the older and more experienced side in every game we played in 2016? What was the deal with that? How did we only win 4 games?
So if North don't count, how do you decide which teams do? Do we discount every team that has only flogged someone in the bottom half of the table?Well that's the way you see it then.
Put away North, that's North, not exactly having the best of years. GWS result surprised me to be sure. Lost winnable games against Adelaide, Richmond and Essendon. Not exactly setting the world on fire most of the time with the scores we've kicked. Our two latest games we ended up grinding out wins.
I'm not sure how this is unquantifiable. We still usually aren't kicking big scores, or even breaking 100 points. I've possibly said in this forum that he can't coach, look it up if you want to. An intemperate remark to be sure and not one to be taken seriously. He's not the coach I want though, and I don't think his style is very effective any more.
Not sure where I'm applying evidence to fit my narrative there.
Pretty fair analysis.I really like Freo's backline, which is why it's a shame Pearce is now out. But the combined defensive abilities of Pearce, Hamling, Ryan, Hughes and even Duman who's going well plus the rebound of Wilson, it's looking good there.
The forward line clearly needs more work both in terms of function and talent. Walters and Fyfe would ideally be playing a fair bit forward. Lobb probably too. Matera as a number 1 goal scorer is not ideal. The dangerous goal kickers or assist guys just aren't there, so all things considered I think they are doing a good job.
What Ross and Co have got from the Freo midfield has really impressed me. Lobb's a good player but I don't particularly rate him as a starting ruck and he's done well. Fyfe is Fyfe. But after that Mundy has turned back the clock. Walters is super impressive given he's really doing double duty as a mid and forward. Conca is doing his role. Without starring Cerra and Brayshaw have at least avoided the 2nd year blues for now. Blakely is back. Then Langdon and Hill who are probably the best part of the Freo side (Fyfe excluded) are killing it. It's still a good effort to put up a strong midfield with Fyfe + outside runners + a Mundy renaissance.
There needs to be cleaner ball movement and some more winners up forward, which is true of almost every side. But Freo are spreading well and pressing well and that's the majority of what footy is these days. It doesn't always end up in scoring but at least Freo look like a competent team. After a few years of rebuilding I get the expectation will be for that as a bare minimum but these things always take time.
The amount of mature talent Freo has got in during this rebuild shows you: 1. They needed it, the list was pretty stuffed. 2. They lost a number of handy players leaving - Neale, Crozier, Weller. 3. They took a few bad chances (so far anyway). In reality they haven't had a heap of draft picks, certainly not the concentrated bunch of top 25 picks you'd expect from a side going the full rebuild. Cerra and Brayshaw right now are the shining gems from the rebuild, everything else has been shuffling more experienced players plus giving kids a go and getting back to a solid side. For Freo to really progress I think it will still be a matter of nailing some draft picks and seeing that talent come through. That means patience for fans and patience for Ross.
Quite a the few nay-sayers simply spout the old mantras, which only reveals that they don't actually watch games. The team is playing with a lot more flair this season compared to last and it is clear to see where the game plan is taking us. But the mantras about the "game plan" are still retold around the fires of the Neanderthals in our midst who have not evolved.But you said if they have flair he crushes it. You talk bullcrap