Future Australian Test Prospects

[Pippen94]

does zampa already have the most odi wickets by an aussie without playing a test though? i'd say he would as faulkner, mckay and bracken got test caps.

i know hopes has played the most odi's for australia without a test (84).

I think ur right; odi specialists with 100 wickets in odi's but not in tests are Fleming, Hogg, O'Donnell & Bracken.

Faulkner & Peter Taylor took 90 something.

Thomas Odoyo of Kenya might have most or actually one of India's two wrist spinners

 

[eth-dog]

I think ur right; odi specialists with 100 wickets in odi's but not in tests are Fleming, Hogg, O'Donnell & Bracken.

Faulkner & Peter Taylor took 90 something.

Thomas Odoyo of Kenya might have most or actually one of India's two wrist spinners

Odoyo (145 wickets), Zadran from Afghanistan (115), Steve Tikolo (94) and then Zampa (92), unless there are any other associates that I don't know (Scotland and the Netherlands don't).

Zampa should catch Zadran you'd think, comparing the amount of ODI's each country plays and the age difference. Should also catch Odoyo.

 

[Caesar]

Wade was still keeping when he made a 1000 runs in the shield. He only really stopped keeping after he got picked for Australia again.

He stopped keeping 12 or 18 months before being picked for Australia the second time as they were constantly side-stepping picking him with rubbish excuses.

I don't think Wade ever actually 'stopped keeping'. To my understanding, Wade was Tasmania's first-choice red ball keeper until Paine's selection in the Test side and has been their second-choice keeper ever since.

It is true that Wade has not kept in the Shield for quite a while, but I don't think that is a conscious choice to give up the gloves. I think that is simply down to his Test reselection meaning that he no longer plays any Shield matches where Paine is absent. Perhaps eth-dog can correct me, but I cannot think of a single Shield match for the Tigers where Wade has given up the gloves for anyone other than Paine.

As far as I know, Wade continues to train with the gloves and would be Tasmania's keeper for any match where he is available and Paine is not.

 

[eth-dog]

I don't think Wade ever actually 'stopped keeping'. To my understanding, Wade was Tasmania's first-choice red ball keeper until Paine's selection in the Test side and has been their second-choice keeper ever since.

It is true that Wade has not kept in the Shield for quite a while, but I don't think that is a conscious choice to give up the gloves. I think that is simply down to his Test reselection meaning that he no longer plays any Shield matches where Paine is absent. Perhaps eth-dog can correct me, but I cannot think of a single Shield match for the Tigers where Wade has given up the gloves for anyone other than Paine.

As far as I know, Wade continues to train with the gloves and would be Tasmania's keeper for any match where he is available and Paine is not.

Yeah, McDermott and Doran have been the keepers when Paine hasn't played for the past two seasons (not including the current one). Not even sure he keeps for Hobart.

 

[Caesar]

Yeah, McDermott and Doran have been the keepers when Paine hasn't played for the past two seasons (not including the current one). Not even sure he keeps for Hobart.

Have they kept in any Shield matches Wade has played in?

I can't think of any, but I don't pay a ton of attention to Tigers matches and when they've played NSW recently, they've always had Paine in the side.

 

[eth-dog]

Have they kept in any Shield matches Wade has played in?

I can't think of any, but I don't pay a ton of attention to Tigers matches and when they've played NSW recently, they've always had Paine in the side.

No, but Paine played 6 of the 9 games games, and all four of Wade's games last year were with Paine. The year before there might have been one or two with Wade but no Paine, but yeah Doran has kept when Paine hasn't as far as I'm aware.

 

[TubbsFarquhar]

Carey has only played 6 Shield games since 2018-19.

Inns: 11
N.O.: 2
H.S.: 143
Runs: 536
Average: 59.56
100s: 3
50s: 1
Catches: 22

Very good return, it's just unfortunate he hasn't played much.

 

[Ducky Tie]

Doran kept in the one Shield game last season that had Wade and no Paine. It's definitley been a conscious decision by Wade to not keep unless there's no other option in FC cricket.

 

[Sir Deadly]

I don’t think it’ll be long until Weatherald gets a look in in some form of international cricket for the national team. Might not be around for a long time but he’s only 26.

 

[Hamingja]

Carey has only played 6 Shield games since 2018-19.

Inns: 11
N.O.: 2
H.S.: 143
Runs: 536
Average: 59.56
100s: 3
50s: 1
Catches: 22

Very good return, it's just unfortunate he hasn't played much.

If you are only going to play a few games then you definitely want to be playing in the one where both VIC & SA scored 700 and Maddinson and Tom Cooper were scoring big doubles. Pumps your stats up nicely.

 

[TubbsFarquhar]

If you are only going to play a few games then you definitely want to be playing in the one where both VIC & SA scored 700 and Maddinson and Tom Cooper were scoring big doubles. Pumps your stats up nicely.

Did Carey play that match? I honestly can't remember.

 

[Pippen94]

I don't think Wade ever actually 'stopped keeping'. To my understanding, Wade was Tasmania's first-choice red ball keeper until Paine's selection in the Test side and has been their second-choice keeper ever since.

It is true that Wade has not kept in the Shield for quite a while, but I don't think that is a conscious choice to give up the gloves. I think that is simply down to his Test reselection meaning that he no longer plays any Shield matches where Paine is absent. Perhaps eth-dog can correct me, but I cannot think of a single Shield match for the Tigers where Wade has given up the gloves for anyone other than Paine.

As far as I know, Wade continues to train with the gloves and would be Tasmania's keeper for any match where he is available and Paine is not.

Like OJ wade & gloves are not a good combination

 

[Perth bloke]

Like OJ wade & gloves are not a good combination

If the glove doesn't fit you can't convict!

 

[Tippett2Goal]

Don't expect others to agree, but am a fan of Whiteman, and wouldn't be surprised if he gets a call up at some stage, after a couple of injured / down years his form this season in shield has been pretty good.

Is another I think benefits from no longer keeping.

As a side note, not sure what is with WA and turning out the WK/Batsmen - Bancroft, Whiteman, Ingliss, Phillipe

 

[eth-dog]

Don't expect others to agree, but am a fan of Whiteman, and wouldn't be surprised if he gets a call up at some stage, after a couple of injured / down years his form this season in shield has been pretty good.

Is another I think benefits from no longer keeping.

As a side note, not sure what is with WA and turning out the WK/Batsmen - Bancroft, Whiteman, Ingliss, Phillipe

Bancroft and Philippe are from the Peter Handscomb or Mike Hussey school of keeping tbf, only do it when there are no better options.

 

[Coops93]

I don't think Wade ever actually 'stopped keeping'. To my understanding, Wade was Tasmania's first-choice red ball keeper until Paine's selection in the Test side and has been their second-choice keeper ever since.

It is true that Wade has not kept in the Shield for quite a while, but I don't think that is a conscious choice to give up the gloves. I think that is simply down to his Test reselection meaning that he no longer plays any Shield matches where Paine is absent. Perhaps eth-dog can correct me, but I cannot think of a single Shield match for the Tigers where Wade has given up the gloves for anyone other than Paine.

As far as I know, Wade continues to train with the gloves and would be Tasmania's keeper for any match where he is available and Paine is not.

He definitely gave up the gloves some time before rejoining the test side. He did it in order to be picked as a batsman. Though perhaps Paine was picked in the team thereafter. Paine was out of Tasmanias Shield team for what, 12 months or so? Maybe longer? It would make sense if Wade gave it up and Paine returned.

 

[TubbsFarquhar]

Can't rate Sangha as not seen him. I think the rest will fall short of getting a cap.

Yet to debut in the Shield but was our leading wicket-taker in the most recent U19 WC and has made a promising start in the BBL. Obviously that means nothing in the concept of getting a test and it's still too early to know for sure, but he absolutely has the capabilities of making it.

 

[11kgm]

Yet to debut in the Shield but was our leading wicket-taker in the most recent U19 WC and has made a promising start in the BBL. Obviously that means nothing in the concept of getting a test and it's still too early to know for sure, but he absolutely has the capabilities of making it.

We annointed pope as the heir apparent before him

 

[LukeParkerno1]

I don’t think it’ll be long until Weatherald gets a look in in some form of international cricket for the national team. Might not be around for a long time but he’s only 26.

Might want to check his Shield stats...it's typical Jake, one good knock and a bunch of nothing scores, he's just an opening version of Marcus North except North made more tons!

 

[TubbsFarquhar]

We annointed pope as the heir apparent before him

Swepson is 100% the successor to Lyon. Pope has had a lot of hype and expectation placed on him since he tore through England. Whilst he's picking up some wickets, he's currently very expensive, averaging 72.5 with the ball and needs to work on consistency of his control, which is perfectly understandable at his age He could easily get there in the future (even Warne wasn't a world-beater from the start), but he's still got a fair way to go. It doesn't help that he's SA's only option and that he doesn't really have a mentor. Zampa doesn't play FC anymore.

 

[Pippen94]

Swepson is 100% the successor to Lyon. Pope has had a lot of hype and expectation placed on him since he tore through England. Whilst he's picking up some wickets, he's currently very expensive, averaging 72.5 with the ball and needs to work on consistency of his control, which is perfectly understandable at his age He could easily get there in the future (even Warne wasn't a world-beater from the start), but he's still got a fair way to go. It doesn't help that he's SA's only option and that he doesn't really have a mentor. Zampa doesn't play FC anymore.

Zampa moved to NSW to enhance red ball cricket chances.

Sanga has out performed Pope in big bash & should have greater t20i prospects

 

[11kgm]

Swepson is 100% the successor to Lyon. Pope has had a lot of hype and expectation placed on him since he tore through England. Whilst he's picking up some wickets, he's currently very expensive, averaging 72.5 with the ball and needs to work on consistency of his control, which is perfectly understandable at his age He could easily get there in the future (even Warne wasn't a world-beater from the start), but he's still got a fair way to go. It doesn't help that he's SA's only option and that he doesn't really have a mentor. Zampa doesn't play FC anymore.

Zampa is in NSW i think?

Pope could get there but we should temper ourselves

 

[Perth bloke]

We annointed pope as the heir apparent before him

And the stress of that anointment made him start to go bald and chubby.

 

[Perth bloke]

Might want to check his Shield stats...it's typical Jake, one good knock and a bunch of nothing scores, he's just an opening version of Marcus North except North made more tons!

I think Lukeparkerno1 is finally ready to step up and captain Australia, while opening the batting and bowling for us in all three formats as well as keeping when not bowling. You're up champ, you must be better than everyone else as you keep writing them off so now's your time to shine

 

[Richard Pryor]

We annointed pope as the heir apparent before him

Think Sangha has shown more. From memory Pope in the U19's WC was just spamming wrongun's to blokes who weren't trying to pick them out of the hand.