Future Magpies Watch

[Vinnie Vegas]

International rookies can be selected in the rookie draft (no other team can draft them except the one they signed with).

I think you can use the third round pick on them.

You use your last rookie draft pick to select them, because technically, without having played any games in nominated competitions in Australia, they're not eligible for the draft under normal means.

This is why the exception allows you to pick them up with your last pick - Because no other team could pick them anyway.

 

[The Royal Sampler]

what about the likes of Normington, Hockey and Deledio???

You'd have to check the Drafts and Trading forum. The former two are touted to be good chances of getting drafted, Deledio maybe a rookie selection. I don't want this thread getting too far off track.

 

[Vinnie Vegas]

Yeah, just to confirm - This thread is about guys who are already tied to the Magpies, be it via international rookie-listings, NSW Scholarships, potential Father-Son selections.

It's not really to discuss other potential draftees.

 

[TRAVCLOKE#32]

You'd have to check the Drafts and Trading forum. The former two are touted to be good chances of getting drafted, Deledio maybe a rookie selection. I don't want this thread getting too far off track.

Yep no worries just wondering what there chances were thats all.

 

[ClarkeM]

2001
richard cole 11
Tom davidson 27
mark mcgough - 47
dane swan (great pick) 58 -
tristen walker 72

Any news on what this bloke is up to? I here he is studying in America. We shouldve have kept him and Walker i think.

 

[The Don]

just to get the thread back on the path was hoping someone could give a run down of the players on the NSW scholarship scheme. Things like age position when we can draft them. are they a chance to realistically get drafted. Thanks in advance

 

[The Royal Sampler]

Scott Reed has been playing HB/Wing, he's 17 and is eligible to be taken with our last pick in the 2008 National Draft. He's a good chance to be taken although at this stage the 2008 draft looks a bit stronger than this year's.

Nick Perry and Thomas Young are both 15, so they're a few years away. Both project as KPPs, in fact Perry may even ruck, but we'll see more of them in 2008 in the U16 National Champs.

The OP has links to get info on these guys, plus several pages back is a link to their results in the U15 National Champs, where both were listed in the best on multiple occasions for NSW and Young managed a BOG.

 

[The Don]

Thanks alot Royal appreciate it.

 

[The Royal Sampler]

As we prepare to mourn the passing of a star of FMW, Marty Clarke, into CMW (Current Magpies Watch ) we can take heart in the 2-year signing of Irish speedster Kevin Dyas.

Dyas will be taken with our last pick in this year's Rookie Draft, another big win for the Collingwood recruiters.

 

[HFF]

Sampler, what are young Barham's chances of continuing the family's ties with the Pies.

On another board it was mentioned young Barham- apart from Daniher would be the most likely F/S prospect. Also mentioned one other club was looking at him.

Is he ours or what? Are we going to take him and commit to him provided we are not overpaying for him? If so, whereabouts do you think he will go in the draft and what will he cost us?

I've read updates on his performances etc. and he seems to go alright. Thoughts?

 

[shawthing09]

Sampler, what are young Barham's chances of continuing the family's ties with the Pies.

On another board it was mentioned young Barham- apart from Daniher would be the most likely F/S prospect. Also mentioned one other club was looking at him.

Is he ours or what? Are we going to take him and commit to him provided we are not overpaying for him? If so, whereabouts do you think he will go in the draft and what will he cost us?

I've read updates on his performances etc. and he seems to go alright. Thoughts?

I am also pretty intrested in this. There is no doubt that a pacey outside mid (which Barham appears to be) would be handy on our list. With Dyas signing on I am not sure how much we will be willing to give up for another development type player. Dyas is bound to take time to get his disposals right and Barham also seems to need to work on his and both will playing a similar role. It's intresting.

 

[Bloben]

Sampler, what are young Barham's chances of continuing the family's ties with the Pies.

On another board it was mentioned young Barham- apart from Daniher would be the most likely F/S prospect. Also mentioned one other club was looking at him.

Is he ours or what? Are we going to take him and commit to him provided we are not overpaying for him? If so, whereabouts do you think he will go in the draft and what will he cost us?

I've read updates on his performances etc. and he seems to go alright. Thoughts?

I will wait for Sampler's response but my non-expert position would be that he would be great to get if he isn't nominated by another club, with either our last pick or as a rookie. I wouldn't want to use our 3rd rounder on him but if nobody nominates for him we can get him with our fourth and use our earlier picks for inside mids and ruckmen. Unfortunately his type isn't exactly what we need.

We may be able to pick him higher though if we trade well.

 

[Ed D]

I will wait for Sampler's response but my non-expert position would be that he would be great to get if he isn't nominated by another club, with either our last pick or as a rookie. I wouldn't want to use our 3rd rounder on him but if nobody nominates for him we can get him with our fourth and use our earlier picks for inside mids and ruckmen. Unfortunately his type isn't exactly what we need.

We may be able to pick him higher though if we trade well.

The f/s rule has changed for this draft.

"For everynominated father-son player, each club in the competition has the option to bid for the player, in reverse ladder order. If a bid is made, the club that nominated the father-son player must use its next available selection if it wishes to retain its hold on that player.

If the club nominating the father-son player declines to match the selection nominated, the club with the successful bid must use that selection at the draft on that player.

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Any club that makes a successful bid on a father-son selection is bound to use the pick they nominate.

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If no bid is made by another club, the club that nominated the father-son eligible player will forfeit its last selection in the draft to select the player."​

 

[ClarkeM]

As we prepare to mourn the passing of a star of FMW, Marty Clarke, into CMW (Current Magpies Watch ) we can take heart in the 2-year signing of Irish speedster Kevin Dyas.

Dyas will be taken with our last pick in this year's Rookie Draft, another big win for the Collingwood recruiters.

Yes! We got him! Welcome to the pies!

 

[Dundalis]

The f/s rule has changed for this draft.

"For everynominated father-son player, each club in the competition has the option to bid for the player, in reverse ladder order. If a bid is made, the club that nominated the father-son player must use its next available selection if it wishes to retain its hold on that player.

If the club nominating the father-son player declines to match the selection nominated, the club with the successful bid must use that selection at the draft on that player.

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Any club that makes a successful bid on a father-son selection is bound to use the pick they nominate.

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If no bid is made by another club, the club that nominated the father-son eligible player will forfeit its last selection in the draft to select the player."​

We do the teams need to make a bid? Is it when they make their actual pick on draft day or does it need to be done before the draft begins? Or at the beginning of the round?

 

[Bloben]

We do the teams need to make a bid? Is it when they make their actual pick on draft day or does it need to be done before the draft begins? Or at the beginning of the round?

I believe it is same day that the final delistings have to be made, a couple of weeks or so before the draft. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Definately before draft day though.

 

[Vinnie Vegas]

I think it's Friday...

 

[The Royal Sampler]

Sampler, what are young Barham's chances of continuing the family's ties with the Pies.

On another board it was mentioned young Barham- apart from Daniher would be the most likely F/S prospect. Also mentioned one other club was looking at him.

Is he ours or what? Are we going to take him and commit to him provided we are not overpaying for him? If so, whereabouts do you think he will go in the draft and what will he cost us?

I've read updates on his performances etc. and he seems to go alright. Thoughts?

It's hard to know for sure, but I don't think we'd take him unless it was with our last pick of this NAB Draft. A rookie spot may be a stronger possibility. He is a project as shawthing09 suggests.

 

[HFF]

Fair enough. Lets see what Hine and co. do come draft day.

 

[The Royal Sampler]

Sons of guns wanted by Magpies and Cats

Emma Quayle | October 5, 2007

THE sons of Ricky Barham and Larry Donohue will head to Collingwood and Geelong at this year's national draft, unless other clubs claim them at Monday's first father-son bidding session.

The Magpies and Cats today will lodge draft nomination forms for Jaxson Barham, a 19-year-old midfielder from the Geelong Falcons, and Adam Donohue, his 17-year-old teammate, then wait to see if rival clubs are interested.

The complicated bidding session, to take place before trade week officially starts on Monday morning, will work like a mini-draft, running in reverse-ladder order.

The 16 clubs will be asked if they are interested in taking any of the nominated father-son players with their first-round selection, then their second-round picks, third-round picks, and so on.

The nominating club will be given an option to draft the player with its next selection, when it comes around. That pick might be in the same round as the selection put up by a rival club, or it could be in the following round.

Should, for instance, the Western Bulldogs declare they will use selection five in the draft to choose Darcy Daniher, nominated as a father-son pick by Essendon, the Bombers would be asked at pick six whether they still wanted to take him. If they did, they would have to use that selection in the draft to secure him. If not, the Bulldogs would be bound to take him. If, in another example, the Kangaroos decided to choose Daniher with their first-round pick, No. 15, Essendon would have to give up its next pick — a second-round selection — to secure him.

If no other club bids for any of the father-son players, their father's club will be able to pick them with its final choice in the draft, whether that be in the third, fourth, fifth round or beyond.

The new system also means clubs can't "double dip".

Should, for example, the Bulldogs bid for Daniher at pick five and miss out because the Bombers select him, they can't go back and bid for Barham or Donohue with the same selection instead.

 

[Bloben]

Great news on Jaxson

I have a question on this new f/s rule.

If another club nominated say pick 28 for him and we had pick 30, 46 and 62. Could we then during trade week, trade away our pick 30 and 46 and then pick up Jaxson with pick 62?

 

[Vinnie Vegas]

Great news on Jaxson

I have a question on this new f/s rule.

If another club nominated say pick 28 for him and we had pick 30, 46 and 62. Could we then during trade week, trade away our pick 30 and 46 and then pick up Jaxson with pick 62?

Nope.

There's a reason that you have to do it before trade week - So you know which picks you can and can't trade.

 

[Bloben]

Nope.

There's a reason that you have to do it before trade week - So you know which picks you can and can't trade.

Thanks

Definately would have been a big loophole if there wasn't a rule. Sounds about right though.

Fingers crossed nobody else nominates him.

 

[The Royal Sampler]

Bidding begins 10am Monday, before trade week officially begins.

 

[Bloben]

Any news on Jett?