Game in Perth is perfect timing.

[Mogwai]

Loving the negativity; when we're positive we tend to get rolled. i.e last week.

 

[FD2646]

Sorry to intrude, I usually just read these threads not post in them, but I think talk of us winning by a big margin is way off. Our forward line is travelling poorly at present. Ballantyne is sadly out of form and Pavlich is irreplaceable.
See you Friday Tigers. Here's hoping for a good game and no injuries.

Agree with you caterina this is a 50/50 game because of the reasons you mentioned.

 

[Oh we're from..]

Only lost by about 4 goals over there last year but were pretty poor and never a serious chance. Going to be very interesting to see how we go. Intensity without the ball needs to increase a hell of a lot, clearances and quality ball i50 obviously vital.

 

[Spoken4]

I'm not saying Freo are not a good overall team, I rate them highly but missing Pav is a big help for us. You could also say we were undone by Collingwood/Cloke on the weekend in a qtr, and what did we have 6 or 7 shots in a row at the end of the 3rd and start of the 4th. Not sure that's going to water.
Freo IMO limited the damage against the Hawks after that start, and the scoreboard flattered them.They pushed further back and clogged up the ground, Birchall had 37 touches just ran around as he pleased off half back. Get early goals against Freo and run the ball, we are a big chance.

Did you watch the game? The first quarter cost us the game, full stop. Drew even in the second, won the third and kicked 3 of the first 4 goals of the last to get within 16 points. Last three goals by Hawthorn were kicked in junk time so the scoreline flattered Hawthorn not Freo.

 

[Spoken4]

Can the Dockers even score 80 points?

See rounds 1 and 2 of 2013. And plenty of rounds in 2012.

 

[Danog]

Fremantle will be hungry after losing two on the trot, especially one very winnable game. Our confidence will be down after Saturday and Fremantle have had the wood over us in recent times so you'd think they'd be pretty fired up for this one..

So why will Fremantle be "hungry" after losing, and our confidence will be down? Why wouldn't both sides be "hungry"?

While I do rate Freo as a top 4 side, they hardly "have the wood over us". They beat us twice last year, and I can't remember us playing worse in 2012 than we did in those 2 games. In the years prior to 2012, we routinely beat Fremantle. We even beat them in 2009 and 2010, back when we were awful.

Ross Lyon has always given us trouble, but tipping an 80 point thrashing is insane.

 

[Spoken4]

So why will Fremantle be "hungry" after losing, and our confidence will be down? Why wouldn't both sides be "hungry"?

While I do rate Freo as a top 4 side, they hardly "have the wood over us". They beat us twice last year, and I can't remember us playing worse in 2012 than we did in those 2 games. In the years prior to 2012, we routinely beat Fremantle. We even beat them in 2009 and 2010, back when we were awful.

Ross Lyon has always given us trouble, but tipping an 80 point thrashing is insane.

I agree - it won't be a thrashing.

Difference with Freo this time compared to last year - we have our best midfield on the park, but forward line is weaker with no Pav. Defense is still strong; ruck is good with Griffin (but not as dominant as with Sandilands).

I'm tipping a Freo win but only if Crowley, DeBoer and Mzungu can limit the influence of Deleido, Martin and Cotchin.

 

[Freo4life]

So why will Fremantle be "hungry" after losing, and our confidence will be down? Why wouldn't both sides be "hungry"?

While I do rate Freo as a top 4 side, they hardly "have the wood over us". They beat us twice last year, and I can't remember us playing worse in 2012 than we did in those 2 games. In the years prior to 2012, we routinely beat Fremantle. We even beat them in 2009 and 2010, back when we were awful.

Ross Lyon has always given us trouble, but tipping an 80 point thrashing is insane.

That is very true but don't forget that those wins were against a much less disciplined and drilled team coached by Mark Harvey and so I think that your two losses last year are more relevant to this weeks game than games played years ago with a different coach and personnel. In saying that I am very concerned by our lapses in the past few games as I rate you guys as a team like Essendon and the Hawks that can cut a team up quickly if given the opportunity. Given our form and outs I would not be so pessimistic and would rate this as good a time as any to play us at home.

 

[ReaperX]

Everybody is up in arms about our midfield not matching up to Collingwood's, but the reason we lost this week gone was simple - Travis Cloke.

Matthew Pavlich carved Rance up at the MCG last year as well, as did Drew Petrie when we played North in 2012. There are numerous other examples I can draw as well

Fact is, when we play teams who don't have a monster power forward, we can actually be beaten in the midfield but still win the game due to our style of defence. We tend to struggle more when we have to deal with big power forwards, which Fremantle will not have this week.

Mark my words, we have a MUCH better chance of winning this with Pav out. If he was playing I'd be tipping Fremantle by 30 points and Pav to be played back into form. Without Pav, who single-handedly got them over the line at the 'G last year, we're right upto our necks in this one.

Tigers by 12 points!

 

[Danog]

Our midfield was woeful in the 3rd quarter. Almost non-existant. Cloke was a big factor, but not the sole one.

 

[Freo4life]

Everybody is up in arms about our midfield not matching up to Collingwood's, but the reason we lost this week gone was simple - Travis Cloke.

Matthew Pavlich carved Rance up at the MCG last year as well, as did Drew Petrie when we played North in 2012. There are numerous other examples I can draw as well

Fact is, when we play teams who don't have a monster power forward, we can actually be beaten in the midfield but still win the game due to our style of defence. We tend to struggle more when we have to deal with big power forwards, which Fremantle will not have this week.

Mark my words, we have a MUCH better chance of winning this with Pav out. If he was playing I'd be tipping Fremantle by 30 points and Pav to be played back into form. Without Pav, who single-handedly got them over the line at the 'G last year, we're right upto our necks in this one.

Tigers by 12 points!

You sure?

 

[WATiger86]

Freo would want to win this wouldn't they - have managed wins against the eagles and bulldogs (who?) before coughing up a 40 point lead to the injectors and getting comfortably outplayed by the Hawks. Next week they play the gold coast before tough games against the pies and swans...

Will be pretty close I recon - first RFC Subi game i've missed in 5 years or so

Sandy and Pav out is great news for us as they both pretty much won the two encounters against us last year with individual performances (Pav in Melbourne, Sandy at Subi)

 

[StevenwellerHFC]

Richmond by 6+ goals, Martin easily BOG.

 

[SA TIGER]

Our midfield was woeful in the 3rd quarter. Almost non-existant. Cloke was a big factor, but not the sole one.

The supply to Cloke was impeccable.

 

[NUFC Tiger]

Not that I'm a big fan of violence, but that would be worth the price of admission

Especially if a stray right hook from Maric knocks Ballantyne's head off

 

[Spoken4]

Richmond by 6+ goals, Martin easily BOG.

Martin won't touch the ball. Crowley or DeBoer will see to that.

 

[Britz]

Hopefully u get over the line so Hardwick can make proper love to h is wife hahahaha

 

[partycorolla]

I agree - it won't be a thrashing.

Difference with Freo this time compared to last year - we have our best midfield on the park, but forward line is weaker with no Pav. Defense is still strong; ruck is good with Griffin (but not as dominant as with Sandilands).

I'm tipping a Freo win but only if Crowley, DeBoer and Mzungu can limit the influence of Deleido, Martin and Cotchin.

We generally have struggled more against Feo when Sandilands doesn't play.... i.e. the game in Melb last year when he played but got injured, Griffen rucked superbly all day.

When Sandilands has played against us in the last few years, we generally do alright, even winning when we were a lot crapper than we are now....

 

[partycorolla]

Martin won't touch the ball. Crowley or DeBoer will see to that.

Absolute crap.... Martin will get plenty of touches, be close to BOG.... then half time will come and he won't do much after that

 

[FD2646]

Absolute crap.... Martin will get plenty of touches, be close to BOG.... then half time will come and he won't do much after that

Martin is a very good player but he runs out of steam on Vic grounds and will certainly suffer at Subi. Freo must watch my fav player in the afl - cotchin and delidio (also a fav) as both hav the pace, stamina and skill sets to cause us maximum damage.....and yes cotchin is my fav along with fyfe and pav.