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THE biggest losers from the Gold Coast's entry into the competition won't be the teams that lose uncontracted players. Rather, it will be those clubs finishing at or near the bottom in 2010 that will suffer the most outrageous misfortune.

Even a team that is deprived of a key player will receive significant draft compensation, and no club can lose more than one uncontracted player. So if the Saints lost Nick Riewoldt — who'd be 28 by then — it would dent them in the short term, but they'd get a decent draft pick in return.

But what fate awaits the teams that happen to be bottoming out when the new club is coming in? Here, the numbers are terrifying. The wooden-spooner, normally rewarded with the prized first pick in the national draft, would get pick four.

The 15th-placed side, which might be just as bad as the 16th, will receive pick six. That might produce a champion, but it's far less likely to provide one than the usual entitlement of pick No. 2.

Arguably the worst places to finish, however, are from 12th to 14th. The club that finishes 14th would receive only draft pick No. 8 — a full five places worse than the norm; the 13th-ranked club gets pick 10, the 12th club pick 12; it will be difficult to rise up the ladder quickly on the back of picks eight, 10 and 12.

To put those numbers in perspective, let's use the 2004 draft as a hypothetical model. The 14th team — which could have picked Lance Franklin or Ryan Griffen (the Western Bulldogs picked Griffen at No. 3), ends up with John Meesen, the 13th team with Chris Egan. Neither Meesen nor Egan made it at the club that drafted them.

There's another nasty sting in this Gold Coast business, too: The new club will have picked off 12 elite 17-year-olds at the end of this year, several of whom would otherwise be early draft picks in 2010. The currency of mid-range picks, thus, is already devalued.

The upshot is that the Gold Coast's entry will represent a form of draft penalties for the clubs that finish down the ladder. No one wants to be in that 12th-to-16th bracket in that period (priority picks remain intact). It won't quite as bad as Carlton's draft penalties for salary cap rorts, from which it has only just recovered, but it will really hurt, and could turn coyote ugly for the clubs that finish down in both 2010 and 2011 if west Sydney gets the nod for 2012.

Now, while it's dangerous to speculate about which clubs will be in the cellar this year, much less next, has anyone considered the ramifications to the national competition of the Swans finding themselves in severe recession in 2010?


You have to admit this is probably the perfect time for us to finish last. As stupid as that sounds.
 
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We will finish around 9th/10th in 2010 so while it is an inconvenience it won't affect us.
 

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I was just mentioning that fact that this is good for us, thats what we want sometimes isn't it? good news?

It's both good and bad I suppose.

Good that it robs some of the older teams of a young gun but bad that our first pick could be in the late teens or early twenties, even with our youthful team it would help as we would have probably had around pick 5-8.
 
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It's both good and bad I suppose.

Good that it robs some of the older teams of a young gun but bad that our first pick could be in the late teens or early twenties, even with our youthful team it would help as we would have probably had around pick 5-8.

If we are climbing up the ladder in 2010 we hopefully wouldn't rely on the 1st pick to much.
 
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I think its probably going to effect essendon the most which isn't a bad thing sonsidering they'll finish probably around 12th this year, get a mediocre draft pick, then lose ya loyds ya lucas' and a couple of others which i cant be arsed thinking of then next year will have bugger all to chose from cause there will be jack shit improvement in them again. least we'll have a crap load of fresh talented youth to work with.
as ive mentioned before we've timed our shitness to perfection
 
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It's both good and bad I suppose.

Good that it robs some of the older teams of a young gun but bad that our first pick could be in the late teens or early twenties, even with our youthful team it would help as we would have probably had around pick 5-8.
i'd say the biggest winners from GC17 coming in are Hawthorn, Geelong and Melbourne
 
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For inappropriateness you'd be hard to top last night's world cup qualifier.

"And now a minute's silence for the victims of the Ivory Coast disaster"
*silence*
"Thank you"
*crowd goes bananas"

Or when you watch the Logies and it's an award for best news stories

"The winner is 'Child sexual abuse in Aboriginal Communities"
*Winners jump up and start cheering and hugging each other*

This ranks fairly low in comparison.
 
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THE biggest losers from the Gold Coast's entry into the competition won't be the teams that lose uncontracted players. Rather, it will be those clubs finishing at or near the bottom in 2010 that will suffer the most outrageous misfortune.

Even a team that is deprived of a key player will receive significant draft compensation, and no club can lose more than one uncontracted player. So if the Saints lost Nick Riewoldt — who'd be 28 by then — it would dent them in the short term, but they'd get a decent draft pick in return.

But what fate awaits the teams that happen to be bottoming out when the new club is coming in? Here, the numbers are terrifying. The wooden-spooner, normally rewarded with the prized first pick in the national draft, would get pick four.

The 15th-placed side, which might be just as bad as the 16th, will receive pick six. That might produce a champion, but it's far less likely to provide one than the usual entitlement of pick No. 2.

Arguably the worst places to finish, however, are from 12th to 14th. The club that finishes 14th would receive only draft pick No. 8 — a full five places worse than the norm; the 13th-ranked club gets pick 10, the 12th club pick 12; it will be difficult to rise up the ladder quickly on the back of picks eight, 10 and 12.

To put those numbers in perspective, let's use the 2004 draft as a hypothetical model. The 14th team — which could have picked Lance Franklin or Ryan Griffen (the Western Bulldogs picked Griffen at No. 3), ends up with John Meesen, the 13th team with Chris Egan. Neither Meesen nor Egan made it at the club that drafted them.

There's another nasty sting in this Gold Coast business, too: The new club will have picked off 12 elite 17-year-olds at the end of this year, several of whom would otherwise be early draft picks in 2010. The currency of mid-range picks, thus, is already devalued.

The upshot is that the Gold Coast's entry will represent a form of draft penalties for the clubs that finish down the ladder. No one wants to be in that 12th-to-16th bracket in that period (priority picks remain intact). It won't quite as bad as Carlton's draft penalties for salary cap rorts, from which it has only just recovered, but it will really hurt, and could turn coyote ugly for the clubs that finish down in both 2010 and 2011 if west Sydney gets the nod for 2012.

Now, while it's dangerous to speculate about which clubs will be in the cellar this year, much less next, has anyone considered the ramifications to the national competition of the Swans finding themselves in severe recession in 2010?


You have to admit this is probably the perfect time for us to finish last. As stupid as that sounds.

Are you Jake Niall? If you're not Jake Niall, please refrain from plagiarism.
You have repeated verbatim what was written by Jake Niall and published in 'The Age' today.
You need to acknowledge the author and publication.
 

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Are you Jake Niall, or his lawyer?

The bigger question is, if he was either, would any of us give a damn anyway?

I'm not as optimistic as others. 2010 we'll still be 12th or worse I think. 9th or 10th, I don't think so. We have a lot of talent but can't seem to play as a team. Our forward line is rubbish and it'll take Watts and Jurrah more than 2 years to develop into prominant forwards. I'm worried about Jurrah, he may not make it at all. Davey, Whelan, Wona and the rest of the squad will have to be very supportive because he must be so amazingly homesick. Different culture, different language, lots of pressure, comitments to his community. Lots on his back.
 
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So, what your saying is: If we finish last this year, we won't be entitled to picks 1 and 2 (if we win 4 or less games)?
 
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Are you Jake Niall? If you're not Jake Niall, please refrain from plagiarism.
You have repeated verbatim what was written by Jake Niall and published in 'The Age' today.
You need to acknowledge the author and publication.

lol settle down this is the internet he can do whatever he pleases:thumbsu:
 
Re: GC to rape draft.

Are you Jake Niall? If you're not Jake Niall, please refrain from plagiarism.
You have repeated verbatim what was written by Jake Niall and published in 'The Age' today.
You need to acknowledge the author and publication.

I dont feel i need to publish who wrote it cause frankly people couldnt give 2 shits. And if it truely upsets you, u need help.
 

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