Geelong - are they the AFL superpower and how can they be stopped?

[Blue1980]

I don't think the cats are an unstoppable force but you have to admire how they have kept up the pointy end of the ladder

 

[sloppyjoespizza]

I Can only assume you're an elias and don't actually barrack for Geelong, because if you did you would know, when drafted, Gaz was the equivalent of a 3rd/4th rounder and their was serious questions if he had the right work rate to make it.

his surname alone was enough for any club willing to take a gamble on him as they knew he would bring people to the game.
Anyone who ever got to see him play as a youngster could see legitimate class in the way he did certain things. Being a Geelong fan, of course you are going to say he was a late pick. It helps your argument that we did not get a leg up look that much better.
Same with Scarlett. If not for father/son, he'd have gone late 1st round and definitely 2nd round after impressing in the championships.

 

[Connoisseur]

his surname alone was enough for any club willing to take a gamble on him as they knew he would bring people to the game.
Anyone who ever got to see him play as a youngster could see legitimate class in the way he did certain things. Being a Geelong fan, of course you are going to say he was a late pick. It helps your argument that we did not get a leg up look that much better.
Same with Scarlett. If not for father/son, he'd have gone late 1st round and definitely 2nd round after impressing in the championships.

Maybe other clubs would have taken that gamble, maybe they wouldn't I guess we will never know. Truth is if Jnr had been as highly rated as some claim there would have been an outcry from all and sundry akin to when Geelong snared Hawkins in 2006 who was without a shadow of a doubt rated very highly.

Whereas Jnr from what I remember was perceived as a solid dependable small forward type, nothing more, nothing less. His first 5 years at Geelong sort of backed up the perception that he was just a handy serviceable small forward. It's only from his 6th year onwards of playing football that he displayed a level of footy that nobody thought he was capable of, other than his teammates of course.

 

[Mad_Hatter]

you were a teammate of GAJ, lol, Crikey some of you fools are beyond fixable

And yes, Ablett would have gone in the 2nd round, certainly not the 3rd or 4th rounds like idiots on here are suggesting

Yeah....
You do realise he didn't just start playing AFL right? That he played all through his junior years?

 

[catstorm]

Yeah....
You do realise he didn't just start playing AFL right? That he played all through his junior years?

Yeah his comment just made me shake my head.
It's like he thinks they never touched a football until they were drafted.
It's not that strange to have played with or against current pros in juniors especially if you were in the right situation.
It's not AFL but when I played junior rugby I played with and against 8 current or former Wallabies.

 

[DieSwans]

This thread title still makes me laugh tbh

 

[99cents]

This thread title still makes me laugh tbh

I agree- it would take another 10 or 20 years of on and off field success to achieve 'superpower' status.


Basically, they have to repeat the last fifteen years with new people in place and hope that geelong as a region grows and prospers.

 

[Great 2008]

Noticed this watching the Hawks V Cats game last night for the first time.

(Question for the game plan experts): Do Geelong give away professional frees across the centre of the ground and across their defensive half forward line when a team gets on the fast break or are transitioning into attack?

A couple of times when Hawthorn were on the fast break and a mark was taken across the centre/half forward area of the ground the defender attention to the marker/Hawks player was overt (even overtly clumsy) to say the least but legal.

Obviously this extra attention;

a) breaks the concentration of the marking player (pain/discomfort/annoyance);
b) can result in bringing the marker to ground (delay); or
c) holds/hinders the marker from playing on quickly.

What follows is prevention of 'joe the goose' or over the top goals and it also allows Geelong players to flood back. The short delay following this tactic also forces the marking player to often take a set kick to a contest (which Geelong love)rather than quickly play on. This enables the Cats to set up in defence.

Their defence is very sound and even more so when they are allowed to set up defensively time and time again.

Is this unique to the Cats?

 

[Roddy]

3 premierships in the last half-century plus makes a 'super-power'? I'm not sure if I've ever read anything so ridiculous and delusional on here. And that's saying something.

By way of comparison, we have 12 in that same time.

 

[JVseven]

No and yes.

 

[Ricketz]

3 premierships in the last half-century plus makes a 'super-power'? I'm not sure if I've ever read anything so ridiculous and delusional on here. And that's saying something.

By way of comparison, we have 12 in that same time.

Golf clap, buddy - how is your powerhouse going at the moment?

 

[Wojcinski]

3 premierships in the last half-century plus makes a 'super-power'? I'm not sure if I've ever read anything so ridiculous and delusional on here. And that's saying something.

By way of comparison, we have 12 in that same time.

Nah you don't, Hawthorn does though

 

[ZGuhT]

Noticed this watching the Hawks V Cats game last night for the first time.

(Question for the game plan experts): Do Geelong give away professional frees across the centre of the ground and across their defensive half forward line when a team gets on the fast break or are transitioning into attack?

A couple of times when Hawthorn were on the fast break and a mark was taken across the centre/half forward area of the ground the defender attention to the marker/Hawks player was overt (even overtly clumsy) to say the least but legal.

Obviously this extra attention;

a) breaks the concentration of the marking player (pain/discomfort/annoyance);
b) can result in bringing the marker to ground (delay); or
c) holds/hinders the marker from playing on quickly.

What follows is prevention of 'joe the goose' or over the top goals and it also allows Geelong players to flood back. The short delay following this tactic also forces the marking player to often take a set kick to a contest (which Geelong love)rather than quickly play on. This enables the Cats to set up in defence.

Their defence is very sound and even more so when they are allowed to set up defensively time and time again.

Is this unique to the Cats?

Good spot I've noticed it heaps from the older guys like lonners and Mackie and just picture milburn or Scarlett with wry smiles.

That said I don't think it's a uniquely Geelong tactic as I've seen many other players do it.

 

[ezard15]

Think you need to learn now to spell Hawthorn.

Geelong are way behind and are still too reliant on Dangerfield and Selwood who are admittedly like Superman and Batman in the same team.

 

[99cents]

Noticed this watching the Hawks V Cats game last night for the first time.

(Question for the game plan experts): Do Geelong give away professional frees across the centre of the ground and across their defensive half forward line when a team gets on the fast break or are transitioning into attack?

A couple of times when Hawthorn were on the fast break and a mark was taken across the centre/half forward area of the ground the defender attention to the marker/Hawks player was overt (even overtly clumsy) to say the least but legal.

Obviously this extra attention;

a) breaks the concentration of the marking player (pain/discomfort/annoyance);
b) can result in bringing the marker to ground (delay); or
c) holds/hinders the marker from playing on quickly.

What follows is prevention of 'joe the goose' or over the top goals and it also allows Geelong players to flood back. The short delay following this tactic also forces the marking player to often take a set kick to a contest (which Geelong love)rather than quickly play on. This enables the Cats to set up in defence.

Their defence is very sound and even more so when they are allowed to set up defensively time and time again.

Is this unique to the Cats?

This is a valid observation, but surely all teams attempt to do this?
Particularly a tallish, marking type side, as geelong is...

 

[Great 2008]

This is a valid observation, but surely all teams attempt to do this?
Particularly a tallish, marking type side, as geelong is...

Possibly, all teams do this but as well as the Cats? Probably not.

 

[JVseven]

No FIGJAMField, no Cats.

 

[STPer18]

No FIGJAMField, no Cats.

No Melbourne full stop. Kind of irrelevant with or without their best players really.

 

[JVseven]

No Melbourne full stop. Kind of irrelevant with or without their best players really.

Burn son! Nice one hombre. But this threads about Geelong. Nice attempt at deflecting though.

 

[domus]

Exactly, hence we are the superpower.

Just accept it.

We love playing the superpower!

 

[King Cold]

How can they be a "superpower" when they aren't even the best side in the comp?

We're the best side in it this year, and by a long way too.

You gotta do it for more than 10 years to earn that title.

We've only lost 61 games in the last 11 years.

We won't lose another game this year either.

3 premierships in the last half-century plus makes a 'super-power'? I'm not sure if I've ever read anything so ridiculous and delusional on here. And that's saying something.

By way of comparison, we have 12 in that same time.

Your signature is wrong.

Geelong Football Club is the greatest sporting club in Australia.

 

[BeechedAsBro]

We're the best side in it this year, and by a long way too.



We've only lost 61 games in the last 11 years.

We won't lose another game this year either.



Your signature is wrong.

Geelong Football Club is the greatest sporting club in Australia.

Great wind up haha

 

[dazbroncos]

lol what about Geelong being gifted all those VFL father sons.

You mean the same way every other club had the same opportunities...

Not really a great argument or basis for being gifted anything...

GO Catters

 

[dazbroncos]

Yes I'm aware of that and maybe if his name was Garry Smith and nobody knew who his dad was it might have mattered. There is no way that a player with a bloodline like that would get passed over until that late. I guarantee that if Ablett Jr has a son that is a mediocre underage performer there is no way in hell that he would be left in the draft until the 40s. Some club would take a punt far, far higher simply based on his family.

So then when Pav has a kid he will automatically be gun and picked in top 10.

good logic... nah really it is...

Go Catters

 

[Deadly Assassin]

They're pretty powerful. Reminiscent of Carlton from the late 60s through until the 90s.