Geelong & Perrie

[Mego Red]

I'm pasting something in below that I'm sure lots of people read (if you did, don't blast me), and I can't be bothered linking to it. So sue me. I thought it's worth pasting in as I think they seem to be the hungriest side for a Perrie type, as evidenced below.


This is snipped from:
Cats realise recruiting problem
Angus Morgan
afl.com.au

Geelong coach Mark Thompson has tacitly acknowledged that the Cats still face special hurdles in endeavouring to recruit Melbourne-based senior players to the club.

The Cats, who made all the early running for out-of-contract Hawthorn utility Jade Rawlings, dipped out when Rawlings chose Arden Street as his preferred destination to join his younger brother Brady at the Kangaroos.

Rawlings was seen by Geelong as the last piece in the puzzle – the key forward that would help the Cats to a genuine tilt at the 2004 finals.

With Rawlings having dropped off the radar, Thompson said the search for a ready-made key forward would continue.

“The priority would be to put one there for the next year and the year after to help our young guys develop,” Thompson said.

“They’re not easy to get. Any club that’s got one, they don’t like to give them up too easy.”

“We need to be able to kick more goals. In the last two drafts we drafted forwards, and they’ll come on like the midfield has come on and the backline has come on, and they’ll come on pretty soon I think.”

 

[DaveW]

A straight swap for Geelong's pick 22 would do me fine.

Stiffy - would that be enough to get us that ruckman Hall?

Bulldogs, Melbourne and Richmond would have picks before us in the second round (if things stay the same - you'd reckon Richmond are odds on to offload their second round pick though.) I don't know if those clubs are desperate for a ruckman.

 

[Damp Squarie]

Perrie must stay...end of story

 

[Mong]

If we can offload Perrie for more than he's worth, this year is the year.

I believe Perrie would interest Geelong. I would take pick 22. And any other year he would not be worth near that.

Can't see it happening, though. Moreso from our side than Geelong's. Too many people would complain after Sarge has just had his best year.

I think too many people in Adelaide (media and fans) don't see the worth of draft picks because there is no immediate gain or pickup and we would lose a solid player who would contribute for next year. Many people would see it as a backward step.

Maybe I'm wrong but that's my impression.


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[Stiffy_18]

Originally posted by DaveW
A straight swap for Geelong's pick 22 would do me fine.

Stiffy - would that be enough to get us that ruckman Hall?

Not sure Dave. It would depend on how the order of drafts picks pan out after trading period. On face value pick 22 would be good enough to get us Hall but clubs like, Collingwood, Port, Sydney and possibly Western Bulldogs would be after a young ruckman to develop. If some club like Sydney decide to take a punt on him with their 1st round pick then we could miss out on him. We might take a punt on him with our 1st pick. Better to be safe than sorry I suppose.

 

[Mego Red]

Originally posted by ****
If we can offload Perrie for more than he's worth, this year is the year.

I believe Perrie would interest Geelong. I would take pick 22. And any other year he would not be worth near that.

Maybe I'm wrong but that's my impression.

Agree. And I'm not sure if Adelaide will draft Brent Hall, but this board should.

That being said, a ruckman or two always go in the first round - Kepler will be pick three or four and someone else will go, either Hall or maybe Ericson (sp?), who I heard was okay, though I've never seen ANY of these guys ...

 

[noddy]

Originally posted by ****
If we can offload Perrie for more than he's worth, this year is the year.

I believe Perrie would interest Geelong. I would take pick 22. And any other year he would not be worth near that.

Can't see it happening, though. Moreso from our side than Geelong's. Too many people would complain after Sarge has just had his best year.

I think too many people in Adelaide (media and fans) don't see the worth of draft picks because there is no immediate gain or pickup and we would lose a solid player who would contribute for next year. Many people would see it as a backward step.

Maybe I'm wrong but that's my impression.


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Pick 22 for a guy that carried our talls in the forward 50 for a good part of last year !!

Why the heck are we so keen to of-load Ian Perrie after he showed so much improvement last year & with a little patience will continue to improve, some players take a bit longer to mature & develop than others & Sarge is definitely in that category,

I know "if" is a big word but what if both Carey & Stevens were unavailable for a fair portion of 04 as what happened in 03, with no Perrie that would leave us pretty bare for kpp up forward & throw a huge burden on as of yet unproven kids,

The only way i would trade Perrie would be if we had someone at least the equal of him that could hold down chf & be the main vocal point in our forward 50 if both Carey & Stevens were unavailable.

 

[CrowBoi]

Perrie is definately worth keeping, unless he ever got to the stage where he wanted to go home...

You can't replace a guaranteed contested mark at the 50m arc... who else has the hands of Perrie in our squad above their heads? seriously?

 

[Mego Red]

Originally posted by noddy
Pick 22 for a guy that carried our talls in the forward 50 for a good part of last year !!

Why the heck are we so keen to of-load Ian Perrie ... The only way i would trade Perrie would be if we had someone at least the equal of him that could hold down chf & be the main vocal point in our forward 50 if both Carey & Stevens were unavailable.

Well - we're keen to offload him because we need to build for the future, and he has an artificially high value due to a number of clubs needing this kind of footballer and being unable to get them on open market - like when PAFC traded Brooks, etc.

Let's be real. He has NO football brain. He is inconsistent and unreliable. He is a good athlete with - I'll be fair - great hands. We should get better than 22, I admit. He's worth more to us than that.

But the time to build is NOW.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Originally posted by noddy
The only way i would trade Perrie would be if we had someone at least the equal of him that could hold down chf & be the main vocal point in our forward 50 if both Carey & Stevens were unavailable.

Enter Ben Holland

Seriously if we can get our hands on Ben Holland, I would trade Perrie in a second. Sarge's trade value will NEVER be higher.

 

[DaveW]

Originally posted by noddy
I know "if" is a big word but what if both Carey & Stevens were unavailable for a fair portion of 04 as what happened in 03, with no Perrie that would leave us pretty bare for kpp up forward & throw a huge burden on as of yet unproven kids,

If we're relying on Perrie as our key forward we're stuffed anyway.

Just like when Hawthorn traded Croad, there were some unhappy fans.

Short term pain for long term gain.

 

[noddy]

Originally posted by Kristof
Well - we're keen to offload him because we need to build for the future, and he has an artificially high value due to a number of clubs needing this kind of footballer and being unable to get them on open market - like when PAFC traded Brooks, etc.

Let's be real. He has NO football brain. He is inconsistent and unreliable. He is a good athlete with - I'll be fair - great hands. We should get better than 22, I admit. He's worth more to us than that.

But the time to build is NOW.

You might be a bit harsh on Sarge there old son,

While we are still a realistic chance at winning next years flag i would hope the time to rebuild can wait a little longer, no harm in blooding any young player into the side as long as the time is right & he deserves his chance,

 

[noddy]

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
Enter Ben Holland

Seriously if we can get our hands on Ben Holland, I would trade Perrie in a second. Sarge's trade value will NEVER be higher.

A Ben Holland or a Croad trade for Perrie would sound about right or even a reasonable pick/picks in the draft but other than that keep him on the list as i would not like to see us short of kpp next year if we happen to lose 1 or 2 due to injury.

 

[still waiting]

no chance

perrie wont be goin anywhere he signed up at the end of the season

 

[DaveW]

Re: no chance

Originally posted by still waiting
perrie wont be goin anywhere he signed up at the end of the season

Plenty of newly signed players of been traded before.

I see no reason why Perrie wouldn't want to move to a club where he'd be the main focal point.

 

[noddy]

Originally posted by DaveW
If we're relying on Perrie as our key forward we're stuffed anyway.

Just like when Hawthorn traded Croad, there were some unhappy fans.

Short term pain for long term gain.

I'm not saying we rely on Perrie as our main focal point up forward but as what happened in 03 when Perrie was our key forward he hardly ever let us down & i think our win/loss record during that time was pretty good,

Hawthorn needed on-ballers & had plenty of kpp at that time if we were to trade Sarge then it must be in return of someone who can do the job Sarge done for us last year,

Maybe i'm being overly cautious but better to be safe than sorry.

 

[macca23]

Originally posted by noddy
A Ben Holland or a Croad trade for Perrie would sound about right or even a reasonable pick/picks in the draft but other than that keep him on the list as i would not like to see us short of kpp next year if we happen to lose 1 or 2 due to injury.

I'm happy with any of the scenarios of a Ben Holland or a Croad trade for Perrie, or a reasonable pick in the draft.

But Dave is right when he says that if we're relying on Perrie as our key forward we're stuffed anyway.

Maximize on Perrie's tradeability while it's there and force a Hentschel, Bock or Rutten to stand up and be counted, or depart.

 

[Crow-mosone]

Guys,
can we stop talking about Holland, he is too slow these days and wants too much dosh. didn't you see him play this year?

if we want a sh*t defender, can't someone resurrect Allen Bartlett or something

 

[Nige_Bix]

Trigg and Holland

I heard Steven Trigg on the radio - he said two things of interest..

1. He didnt expect the Crows to do be overly active in the trade week.

2. He was lukewarm about Ben Holland, saying he was a good player but hinted the deal the club would want was not probably what Holland/Richmond would want - plus I heard Holland wasn't keen on coming back here anyway.

 

[troy_sibbick]

I dont think I will trade someone like Perrie who will always give you a good contest for someone like Holland who is injury prone.