General AFL thread 2016

[Choomah]

is lobbe actually that bad? Haven't watched much of him

 

[plugger66]

Ross Lyon is about to be finally found out and revealed as the fraud he truly is. Not a single new player in today's side. Still trying to win games by scoring 60 points. Still persisting with the Swans 'Bloods' game plan from 2005. No fwds. Still persisting with his favourite old hacks like Ibbotson, Clancee Pearce, Chris Mayne, Mzungu, Danyle Pearce, Griffin. Found out.

And you thought that is 09 and 10? I'm doubting it

 

[t_94]

is lobbe actually that bad? Haven't watched much of him

Was really good pre Ryder coming there. Seemed to have lost his way last season and now has to carry the ruck duties alone on low confidence.

 

[RoundCubic]

Dogs played Boyd in defence in the 4th lucky for them Stringer is a future Brownlow winner

 

[Choomah]

Boyd is going to be a huge bust Imo

 

[Ekomaira]

Boyd is going to be a huge bust Imo

imo he'll be a monster. limited rotations might cause more 1 on 1's and that will help his game cos he gon be biiiig in a few years

 

[Ian Dunross]

People writing off Boyd now, is the equivalent of others writing off McCartin in 12 months time.

Ludicrous.

He may be a spud, he may be a champion. Far, far, far too early to say.

 

[Defacto]

People writing off Boyd now, is the equivalent of others writing off McCartin in 12 months time.

Ludicrous.

He may be a spud, he may be a champion. Far, far, far too early to say.

Is he worth the price tag?

 

[Diehard Saint]

Is he worth the price tag?

Well that definitely remains to be seen, but the pressure on the kid to perform because of it will definitely not help. I also wonder what his team mates feel about it. Still, it's too soon to write him off.
Paddy also has pressure due to being number one pick, but I'm really glad he doesn't have the weight of that monetary expectation on his shoulders as well.

 

[plugger66]

Well that definitely remains to be seen, but the pressure on the kid to perform because of it will definitely not help. I also wonder what his team mates feel about it. Still, it's too soon to write him off.
Paddy also has pressure due to being number one pick, but I'm really glad he doesn't have the weight of that monetary expectation on his shoulders as well.

I don't think most team mates care as long as they are getting what they want. Whilst they probably have a laugh with mates about it I doubt it effects their attitude to footy. It certainly hasn't shown it in the 24 games he has been at the club.

 

[Glen Buterol]

Well that definitely remains to be seen, but the pressure on the kid to perform because of it will definitely not help. I also wonder what his team mates feel about it. Still, it's too soon to write him off.
Paddy also has pressure due to being number one pick, but I'm really glad he doesn't have the weight of that monetary expectation on his shoulders as well.

Boyd will be a colossus in a few years & IMO has the tools to overtake Hogan. Hogan is a man child & was always going to impact earlier on in his career.

Boyd at 200cms + taking marks at the highest point like Roo (but significantly taller) has throughout his career will be an unstoppable force once he grows Ito his body & gains confidence.

 

[gringo2011]

Boyd will be a colossus in a few years & IMO has the tools to overtake Hogan. Hogan is a man child & was always going to impact earlier on in his career.

Boyd at 200cms + taking marks at the highest point like Roo (but significantly taller) has throughout his career will be an unstoppable force once he grows Ito his body & gains confidence.

He was and outstanding junior and we would have had him if he'd chosen us instead. I'm not yet sold on 2 meter tall forwards yet but he looks like he should be a very good player one day. Even just as a focal point forward he will straighten them up.

 

[Glen Buterol]

He was and outstanding junior and we would have had him if he'd chosen us instead. I'm not yet sold on 2 meter tall forwards yet but he looks like he should be a very good player one day. Even just as a focal point forward he will straighten them up.

With the interchange cap creating more 1v1 contests it's only going to help him (& all forwards for the matter).

 

[CALL ME SNAKE]

People writing off Boyd now, is the equivalent of others writing off McCartin in 12 months time.

Ludicrous.

He may be a spud, he may be a champion. Far, far, far too early to say.

Dont think its so much people writing off Boyd. He may just be a handy player, he may be a champion player. Most likely somewhere in between. Time will tell.
Exactly the same goes with Paddy, time will tell.
Its just the insane money that was paid for Boyd at such a young age that has people s******ing and shaking their heads.
There is a chance he could end up an absolute gun, but there is also a chance he just ends up a handy fwd/ruck like Kosi was. Thats not a knock on Kosi at all but a player like Kosi didnt deserve one of the biggest contracts ever like Boyd got.
The Boyd contract just seemed like a HUGE bit of spin doctoring they did to smooth over the pain their supporters were feeling after sacking the coach and the Captain walking out on the club.
Ironically since then the Doggies have been on the up and up but Boyd has had little to no impact in that rise. I dont think they needed a 7 million dollar gamble . They might need that money to keep Stringer, Libba, Bont, Wood etc etc.

 

[gringo2011]

Dont think its so much people writing off Boyd. He may just be a handy player, he may be a champion player. Most likely somewhere in between. Time will tell.
Exactly the same goes with Paddy, time will tell.
Its just the insane money that was paid for Boyd at such a young age that has people s******ing and shaking their heads.
There is a chance he could end up an absolute gun, but there is also a chance he just ends up a handy fwd/ruck like Kosi was. Thats not a knock on Kosi at all but a player like Kosi didnt deserve one of the biggest contracts ever like Boyd got.
The Boyd contract just seemed like a HUGE bit of spin doctoring they did to smooth over the pain their supporters were feeling after sacking the coach and the Captain walking out on the club.
Ironically since then the Doggies have been on the up and up but Boyd has had little to no impact in that rise. I dont think they needed a 7 million dollar gamble . They might need that money to keep Stringer, Libba, Bont, Wood etc etc.

We were going hard at Boyd and we apparently balked when the Dogs took it up to an astronomical price tag. We probably would have gone $750000 so it's a bit embarrassing to s****** when we would have done the same but our balls shrivelled when the price kept rising. It's as you say either a master stroke or a bust but it's way to early to call. I think Kosi worked because if they didn't respect him and left him free he scored, he also gave that tall target in the top of the goal square where Milne and co could clean up. The Dogs have Crameri and Stringer who are never going to be able to do that so it should round out their forward line well.

 

[Diehard Saint]

We were going hard at Boyd and we apparently balked when the Dogs took it up to an astronomical price tag. We probably would have gone $750000 so it's a bit embarrassing to s****** when we would have done the same but our balls shrivelled when the price kept rising. It's as you say either a master stroke or a bust but it's way to early to call. I think Kosi worked because if they didn't respect him and left him free he scored, he also gave that tall target in the top of the goal square where Milne and co could clean up. The Dogs have Crameri and Stringer who are never going to be able to do that so it should round out their forward line well.

Whether "our balls shrivelled" or not, as a member I would have been ropeable had we taken that kind of risk on an untried player just after we had started to get our salary cap right after years of problems. Granted it could become an inspired move by the Bulldogs, but for us at the time it would have been a huge step backwards.

They could well have issues in a year or so when their young stars, and they have some for sure, are all demanding better contracts.

 

[Smoke_Me_AKipper]

Steele Sidebottom offered 2 weeks which means he misses our match which is good news for us. Whilst I would never wish a serious injury against any player, Swan missing will also help us. The Pies midfield runs deep and Treloar looks awesome but it will help with no Swan or Sidebottom in round 3....if we play like we did for 3 quarters against Port we're in with a sniff!!!!

 

[Ekomaira]

Steele Sidebottom offered 2 weeks which means he misses our match which is good news for us. Whilst I would never wish a serious injury against any player, Swan missing will also help us. The Pies midfield runs deep and Treloar looks awesome but it will help with no Swan or Sidebottom in round 3....if we play like we did for 3 quarters against Port we're in with a sniff!!!!

good... good...

 

[Smoke_Me_AKipper]

good... good...

I always love beating Collingwood (as well as Carlton and Essendon). I love shutting up the supporters with that awful Cooollllingggwoooooooooood chant! Swan and Sidebottom always do well against us.

 

[Choomah]

Cats look good early

 

[Ekomaira]

go Cats

 

[VDS66]

If Boyd had come to us then we'd be saying that big men take a while to develop and that we would be happy to let him develop at Sandy...

That said, $1m is a massive gamble for a player of unknown quantity. You pay that for an Ablett or Dangerfield, when you know what you are getting for your money.

 

[NarklesHelmet]

I always love beating Collingwood (as well as Carlton and Essendon). I love shutting up the supporters with that awful Cooollllingggwoooooooooood chant! Swan and Sidebottom always do well against us.

Been waaaaaaay too long since we knocked them off. Reckon we are in with a huge chance in a couple of weeks. Swan always kills us, as does Sidebottom. We should play a hard tag on Pendlebury and back our mids to beat their other mids.

 

[Smoke_Me_AKipper]

Been waaaaaaay too long since we knocked them off. Reckon we are in with a huge chance in a couple of weeks. Swan always kills as, as does Sidebottom. We should play a hard tag on Pendlebury and back our mids to beat their other mids.

.....and hope we don't have any significant injuries out of the Bulldogs game

 

[plugger66]

Steele Sidebottom offered 2 weeks which means he misses our match which is good news for us. Whilst I would never wish a serious injury against any player, Swan missing will also help us. The Pies midfield runs deep and Treloar looks awesome but it will help with no Swan or Sidebottom in round 3....if we play like we did for 3 quarters against Port we're in with a sniff!!!!

Doesn't hurt that's for sure. 2 of their best. Confidence will be important so we need a good showing this week and I think we will if we move the ball like we did for 2and half quarters yesterday.