GF replay no more, extra time then golden point instead

[Ironmonger]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-04-19/fitzpatrick-evans-to-face-the-media-live

AFL COMMISSION chairman Mike Fitzpatrick and football operations boss Mark Evans have revealed there will no longer be a Grand Final replay.

In the case of a tie at full time, the teams will play five minutes extra time each way.

It's an historic day.

This marks the first occasion the AFL has decided to change a rule that would screw a non-Victorian team before it actually screws a non-Victorian team.

 

[Fatcat08]

A common sense decision made by the afl......huh, who would have thunk it. Not sure how to feel, its all a bit weird. Might be time to go review my life choices, i mean if the AFL Commission is using common sense now does that mean common sense is bad now? Strange day.

Nope i've worked it out, they probably decided at the start of the year and have been holding it off to distract footy from something, like the May tribunal decision. Look over here at our shiny new rule, ignore the debate over concussion in football. All is right again.

 

[dlanod]

It's a shame, I really did love the romance of a replayed final but as pointed out it really screws the interstate teams.

 

[Skoob]

It's a shame, I really did love the romance of a replayed final but as pointed out it really screws the interstate teams.

I wasn't following footy in '77 but the replay in 2010 was ****ing shocking, and looking at the scores in '48, it didn't match the battle of the first grand final either. I suppose there is an argument that the team that can perform 2 weeks running is more deserving, but this ignores how both teams got to the big dance. Sometimes a team plays fairly ordinarily (comparatively) and makes it through to the big day with fresher legs, leaving them stronger for an extra week. I would never want to see a repeat of 2010, regardless of the teams involved. And I think most the... um... more mature fans who argue for tradition, remember the more exciting '77 spectacle. One out of 3 isn't a very good strike rate though.
I think it's worth remembering, when citing 'tradition', that we are talking about just 3 occurrences thus far. As has been mentioned, this isn't the VFL anymore and scrapping replays is the right decision. But let's not let the AFL off that easily, or worse, pat them on the back. I think there is plenty to complain about in regard to how the game will be decided.

 

[CarterS]

Can only imagine how frantic it would get in golden point!!

 

[Redeye Rambler]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-04-19/fitzpatrick-evans-to-face-the-media-live



It's an historic day.

This marks the first occasion the AFL has decided to change a rule that would screw a non-Victorian team before it actually screws a non-Victorian team.

common sense wins!

On the other hand
I could accept a replayed grand final..... only if it was played at the other teams home ground.


wouldn't that ruffle some Victorian feathers

 

[The Flying Belgian]

Don't like the golden point concept. Golden goal perhaps a better alternative.

 

[MacMum]

As the wife of a Saints supporter, I can assure you that from a fans point of view, the replay is a devastating nothingness. When the siren went on the draw between Saints/Pies, Mr MM was flat as a tack and numb. The replay had none of the excitement of the first week.

Imagine how the players felt.

I think it is a huge step and common sense prevails. Now that the game is aussie wide, so much more comes into a replay. More flights for players, accomodation etc. then there are the holidays that may have been booked by the players, staff of the clubs. So many urgent changes to be made if having to come back for a replay. Then there's the ticketing issue for fans..

Nah, long overdue. Well done AFL

 

[Milk Steak]

Don't like the golden point concept. Golden goal perhaps a better alternative.

I can't see it ever getting to to that anyway. What are the chances of it being tied after extra time aswell. It wouldn't make sense in my mind to get to the part after extra time and have points kicked meaning nothing.

 

[lioninthesand]

Don't like the golden point concept. Golden goal perhaps a better alternative.

Whilst the rule is important as a back up, the chances of there not being a winner after 2 X's 5 minute extra periods would be next to zero.

 

[Hollow Knight]

Imagine a grand final golden point decided by a dodgy goal review.

 

[dlanod]

Imagine a grand final golden point decided by a dodgy goal review.

At least with literal golden point it greatly reduces the chances of that ****-up, because it doesn't matter if it's touched, hits the post, goes the wrong side, etc.

But yeah - the kerfuffle over golden point vs golden goal is missing the point that it's after a significant period of extra time. The chances of a drawn grand final is rare. Now how many of those are still drawn after the 1st quarter of the following game? That's basically the equivalent.

 

[Hollow Knight]

At least with literal golden point it greatly reduces the chances of that ****-up, because it doesn't matter if it's touched, hits the post, goes the wrong side, etc.

Could shave the point post

 

[JasRulz63]

Or what happened in 2004 against St. Kilda and that obvious out of bounds on the full that was called a behind. Plenty of things for them to screw up

 

[carnthemlions]

Points are points, hard to argue that a behind suddenly shouldn't count on the scoreboard after it did for the previous 130 minutes.

 

[Lace Out]

Team who finished highest during home and away wins in the event of a draw.Might encourage them a little bit to play out the year strongly and not rest heaps of players.Plenty of dull games towards the tail end of a season

 

[Ironmonger]

At least with literal golden point it greatly reduces the chances of that ****-up, because it doesn't matter if it's touched, hits the post, goes the wrong side, etc.

You know, that might have been a real factor in the decision to go with point rather than goal.

Imagine being the bloke up in the box trying to decide if a defender's fingers were bent back at all after a hurried snap shot went through.

 

[Milk Steak]

Team who finished highest during home and away wins in the event of a draw.Might encourage them a little bit to play out the year strongly and not rest heaps of players.Plenty of dull games towards the tail end of a season

I would hope that never happens in my lifetime. Can you imagine watching a grand final, it's super tense and the teams are all tied up at the final whistle, fans on the edge of their seats and the umpire says "Alright boys, Geelong you finished higher 4 weeks ago so you win"

 

[Lace Out]

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I would hope that never happens in my lifetime. Can you imagine watching a grand final, it's super tense and the teams are all tied up at the final whistle, fans on the edge of their seats and the umpire says "Alright boys, Geelong you finished higher 4 weeks ago so you win"

Every player,every fan,would know who the winner was if it was a draw before the game.The ump wouldn't say jack shit !

 

[luthor]

Team who finished highest during home and away wins in the event of a draw.Might encourage them a little bit to play out the year strongly and not rest heaps of players.Plenty of dull games towards the tail end of a season

Nope

 

[Lace Out]

Nope

It's ok, I never wrote any letters to the commission about it.

 

[Skoob]

I don't see the problem with it being a point instead of a goal scored. As others have said, the chances of getting to golden point are so slim. Many games are decided by a behind. We kicked the same number of goals as GC on the weekend. To ignore the value of a single point is nonsense.
As far as grand finals go, there have been 15 decided by less than a goal. I see no need to insist on a goal being the decider.

 

[Milk Steak]

Every player,every fan,would know who the winner was if it was a draw before the game.The ump wouldn't say jack shit !

Just using that as an example of how much of an anti climax that would be. Would be completely unsatisfying to most involved I'd think.

 

[Fatcat08]

Could shave the point post

Banking on the pies making the gf again while cloke is still there I see

 

[chopperduck]

I don't see the problem with it being a point instead of a goal scored. As others have said, the chances of getting to golden point are so slim. Many games are decided by a behind. We kicked the same number of goals as GC on the weekend. To ignore the value of a single point is nonsense.
As far as grand finals go, there have been 15 decided by less than a goal. I see no need to insist on a goal being the decider.
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I would not want a flag decided by a rushed behind. Imagine a team gets a center clearance, bangs it forward, ball near top of the goal square. Instead of going for a mark, players are just trying to punch it throw. That golden point would make it a complete different game. Think golden goal makes more sense. No matter how remote the chance.