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[BORIS332]

The height will bother some, last top 5 pick under 185 cm?

Haha

#3 2020 Will Phillips 180cm
#5 2020 Braeden Campbell 181cm

#1 2019 Matt Rowell 178cm
#5 2019 Dylan Stephens 183cm

#1 2018 Sam Walsh 184cm
#3 2018 Izak Rankine 179cm

#2 2017 Andy Brayshaw 184cm

#1 2016 Andrew McGrath 178cm
#4 2016 Ben Ainsworth 178cm

#5 2015 Darcy Parish 181cm

 

[BORIS332]

Devon Robertson was on offer and we selected Copper Stephens? Not looking good right now. Just ask Joel!

Deven Robertson was my favourite prospect in that draft. Selwood-esque in his effort and ability to lift his teammates.

 

[BORIS332]

Its an interesting situation that Bulldogs find themselves.

They get JUH with P1 last year. Have not played him , have no immediate need for him and now with their Father Son Sam Darcy ..they might have a kid rated in the top group again. Perhaps 2.

They need points to pay for him.

The have Dunkley who was looking for a role change..does he still want out.

How often does a side that is contention for a flag.. get the chance to draft two years in a row a kid that could be considered for the #1 pick.

The bidding system for the Next Generation Academy has changed now, if bids come in the top 20 club's can't match. There's talk that the same change will be made to the father-son bids too.

 

[Turbocat]

The bidding system for the Next Generation Academy has changed now, if bids come in the top 20 club's can't match. There's talk that the same change will be made to the father-son bids too.

That will not happen any time soon. They had nga last year and Darcy as FaSon this year. ...and honestly I have no issue with their luck of FSon. I would say the most likely change is no discount on the points. Clubs will still gladly pay for it. If we had the chance to recruit a FSon rated as good as either Dacios or Darcy ..we would gladly pay 2000 points

 

[STPer18]

Devon Robertson was on offer and we selected Copper Stephens? Not looking good right now. Just ask Joel!

I'm not going to judge Stephens just yet - has barely had a decent run at it, and De Koning could be anything, but I still can't get over how a player like Robertson with his junior performances slips into the 2nd round. Makes you wonder what recruiters look for.

 

[Turbocat]

Obviously it’s about getting them right and it pains me to say it but what Dodoro has done at Essendon the past 2 draft years will see him knighted.
Some serious talent

Hard to mess up the picks he had. Have a look at the phantoms..its not like they pulled a Mackie from no where...

 

[GeelongFTW]

Close might be a better user of the ball, but Miers has the bigger tank to work up and back the ground, which is crucial for a HFF. Miers consistently tops our GPS data.

Perhaps. But don't you think it would be easier for close to develop a tank than goal sense? Not saying he can't do both of course.

 

[calder_daddy]

Hard to mess up the picks he had. Have a look at the phantoms..its not like they pulled a Mackie from no where...

Not arguing that he did, but it’s also just as easy to not get it that right.
He’s done well, as did port a few years back with multiple first rounders

 

[Turbocat]

Not arguing that he did, but it’s also just as easy to not get it that right.
He’s done well, as did port a few years back with multiple first rounders

Three top 10 picks in the right year , and he would have to be a saboteur to get it wrong. For me... getting the pick right is not the same as a good outcome. Its like taking the right shot in basketball or golf etc... but that doesnt mean you execute it correctly. One the pick gets inside a club then just as much the club as the recruiter. I am more impressed with his selection of Jones than the three top tens last year. Taken at 30 , that looks a real win.

 

[Isaac Norm Smith]

Devon Robertson looking the goods. It's always easy in hindsight to look back at what might have been. Woulda, shoulda, coulda. We have got more right than wrong over the years, and we certainly shouldn't be writing C.Stephens off just yet.

Every club has these stories, and lets not forget, heaps of other clubs passed him over too. There must of been a reason for that. Questions over his kicking, flight risk etc. Who knows really. We got SJ with 24, Chappy with 31, Kelly with 17, Boris with 47 etc. In hindsight, those guys are top 5 picks. Ling at 38 IIRC, that's great value. We can't get them right all the time, but we've had some big wins over the years.

Hawks picked Thorp (no AFL games) over Selwood..

 

[Turbocat]

Devon Robertson looking the goods. It's always easy in hindsight to look back at what might have been. Woulda, shoulda, coulda. We have got more right than wrong over the years, and we certainly shouldn't be writing C.Stephens off just yet.

Every club has these stories, and lets not forget, heaps of other clubs passed him over too. There must of been a reason for that. Questions over his kicking, flight risk etc. Who knows really. We got SJ with 24, Chappy with 31, Kelly with 17, Boris with 47 etc. In hindsight, those guys are top 5 picks. Ling at 38 IIRC, that's great value. We can't get them right all the time, but we've had some big wins over the years.

Hawks picked Thorp (no AFL games) over Selwood..

Agree with all that .. and I think its far to early to call it. I remember the same discussions on here with other draft picks. Some times the board was right, other times its debatable.

I think a lot on this board would have picked him at 16 , and the at 19 if they had been at the table. He was predicted to be top10.

Having said that Brisbane cleverly went away and reassessed when the draft commenced the second night.

There is no doubt atm , CS is lagging the pack on games played. Only him and anotehr kid I liked Kemp, coming off a knee , has not played a sr game. Lets assess by 2025, by then it would not surprise me Robertson is back in WA.

 

[Turbocat]

Cal Twomey's Phantom Form Guide: Top draft prospects' June ranking

Draft guru Cal Twomey has dropped his latest rankings of the 2021 draft pool

www.afl.com.au

Not a Geelong Falcon in the top20... unusual but it maybe a difficult year to get the top 20 nailed down

 

[Drunkcat]

Who cares about Robertson we got a better player a year later with pick 20 Holmes

 

[Drunkcat]

Josh Rachele looked alright against us

 

[Isaac Norm Smith]

Agree with all that .. and I think its far to early to call it. I remember the same discussions on here with other draft picks. Some times the board was right, other times its debatable.

I think a lot on this board would have picked him at 16 , and the at 19 if they had been at the table. He was predicted to be top10.

Having said that Brisbane cleverly went away and reassessed when the draft commenced the second night.

There is no doubt atm , CS is lagging the pack on games played. Only him and anotehr kid I liked Kemp, coming off a knee , has not played a sr game. Lets assess by 2025, by then it would not surprise me Robertson is back in WA.

Completely agree with all of this.

 

[Warhorse]

Who cares about Robertson we got a better player a year later with pick 20 Holmes

What does Robertson have to do with Holmes? We could of had both

 

[calder_daddy]

What does Robertson have to do with Holmes? We could of had both

We could’ve also had many other players, both points are irrelevant.
What could’ve been is always done in hindsight
Classic BF behavior

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

I think this year's crop is quite good.

In saying that I think we'll try trade up this though using our 3 second round picks. A

 

[Hamingja]

Makes you wonder what recruiters look for.

Wells looks for upside. Whether it is players that have focussed on another sport or players that have missed time due to injury so are underexposed.

Has worked a treat with the later picks and rookies but has been a disaster with 1st rounders.

 

[Tristan34]

I think this year's crop is quite good.

In saying that I think we'll try trade up this though using our 3 second round picks. A

not sure why, as we traded our last r1 ( Cameron trade) for two seconds in this years draft.... They must see a lot of depth in this years draft to do that...

 

[thecatattack]

Devon Robertson was on offer and we selected Copper Stephens? Not looking good right now. Just ask Joel!

Meh, it's been a year and a half.

Cooper is an elite inside mid and once he gets a run at it no one will be questioning the pick.

 

[Turbocat]

Not arguing that he did, but it’s also just as easy to not get it that right.
He’s done well, as did port a few years back with multiple first rounders

An article that supports your conjecture..

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StK. could have has Petrrica, Bontipelli and Naughton ... instead of McCartin, Billings and Clark/Coffield It hurts when the ball bounces the wrong way in multiple drafts

 

[catempire]

Wells looks for upside. Whether it is players that have focussed on another sport or players that have missed time due to injury so are underexposed.

Has worked a treat with the later picks and rookies but has been a disaster with 1st rounders.

I have been a strong critic of Wells and first round failures. So let me state that first.

I guess in his favour is that his first round picks have rarely been in the top 10. This leaves him in no man’s land, in some ways - go for the conventional wisdom or grab who he rates will go in the 20s but he sees something in. His record has to stand on his own but I can see why he takes the approach he does.

Also, if you look back at the first round failures - Brown, Smedts, Thurlow and Lang - it’s not always easy to see what the obvious mistake was. Brown’s draft year was pretty good. In Smedts year, funnily enough it was Isaac Smith we missed but the rest were meh. Grundy is mentioned in Thurlow’s year but we were never picking a ruck with five already on our list. And in Lang’s year the counterfactual is someone like Dunstan, Acres or Impey.

I remain of the view that Wells has fallen short with these picks but dig a bit deeper and it’s not as bad as it looks.

 

[GeelongFTW]

I have been a strong critic of Wells and first round failures. So let me state that first.

I guess in his favour is that his first round picks have rarely been in the top 10. This leaves him in no man’s land, in some ways - go for the conventional wisdom or grab who he rates will go in the 20s but he sees something in. His record has to stand on his own but I can see why he takes the approach he does.

Also, if you look back at the first round failures - Brown, Smedts, Thurlow and Lang - it’s not always easy to see what the obvious mistake was. Brown’s draft year was pretty good. In Smedts year, funnily enough it was Isaac Smith we missed but the rest were meh. Grundy is mentioned in Thurlow’s year but we were never picking a ruck with five already on our list. And in Lang’s year the counterfactual is someone like Dunstan, Acres or Impey.

I remain of the view that Wells has fallen short with these picks but dig a bit deeper and it’s not as bad as it looks.

Lang instead of Jones hurts.

 

[catempire]

Lang instead of Jones hurts.

Zak? Was taken the pick before Lang.