Rumour GFC 2021 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists

[WinstonWolfe]

It is a pretty good drop that one. Doesn't go great in the middle of summer though


A lot of Italian beer is pretty standard fare but have you ever tried Italian chestnut lager? Life changing

No I haven't. Thanks for the tip. My search begins.....

 

[MacStradbroke]

Dawson Simpson is the one that still haunts me. Finally started to come good in 2013, dislocated his knee, still only 30 now, never the same again.

I remember the 6 or 7 weeks he was really up and running, Selwood was absolutely unstoppable with Simpson shoving it down his throat.

 

[standupand]

Apologies for the intrusion, however, I couldn't let this slip. The Peroni Gran Riserva Doppio Malto is a very nice beer.

Just a challenge ordering one at a noisy pub..

 

[rocker_oz33]

Dawson Simpson is the one that still haunts me. Finally started to come good in 2013, dislocated his knee, still only 30 now, never the same again.

He taunt he's dog to open a fringe to bring him beers ..

He's good guy in my book.

 

[Wojo]

His sister was that 15 year old mean girl I’m told. School bully

heard similar, apparently she is as strange as hell. Ie a mole. Must be in the blood

 

[CatRiot]

This bloke really impressed me in the few VFL games I saw this year. Deserves at least a rookie spot and would be an upgrade on Dahlhaus.

McLachlan A More Rounded Footballer

Jackson McLachlan has taken has game to a new level this VFL season

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He has to be exceptional at that size... 170cm 70kgs... its quite small

 

[tielgaz]

If Clark goes, it must be another drafting disaster.
Our record in developing our 1st draft pick into a regular has been horrible.

2008 Mitch Brown R1
2009 Dan Menzel R1
2010 Billie Smedts R1
2011 Joel Hamling R2
2012 Jackson Thurlow R1
2013 Darcy Lang R1
2014 Nakia Cockatoo R1
2015 Ryan Gardiner R4
2016 Brandon Parfitt R2
2017 Lachlan Fogarty R2
2018 Jordan Clark R1
2019 Cooper Stephens R1
2020 Max Holmes R1

Parfitt is the only one that has come on.
Menzel was plain bad luck, but the rest...geez.

Ryan Gardiner R4, why is he on your list? Holmes will be a gun.

 

[Pollywaffle]

If Clark goes, it must be another drafting disaster.
Our record in developing our 1st draft pick into a regular has been horrible.

2008 Mitch Brown R1
2009 Dan Menzel R1
2010 Billie Smedts R1
2011 Joel Hamling R2
2012 Jackson Thurlow R1
2013 Darcy Lang R1
2014 Nakia Cockatoo R1
2015 Ryan Gardiner R4
2016 Brandon Parfitt R2
2017 Lachlan Fogarty R2
2018 Jordan Clark R1
2019 Cooper Stephens R1
2020 Max Holmes R1

Parfitt is the only one that has come on.
Menzel was plain bad luck, but the rest...geez.

Should get someone other than Wells to pick under #20 (and ruckmen)

 

[iameviljez]

Apologies for the intrusion, however, I couldn't let this slip. The Peroni Gran Riserva Doppio Malto is a very nice beer.

I know this is getting a tad wanky, but I just saw one of the bar staff at a Brisbane pub wearing a tee from my old local brewery down in Reservoir (Hawkers) and it made me extremely happy.

 

[iameviljez]

If Clark goes, it must be another drafting disaster.
Our record in developing our 1st draft pick into a regular has been horrible.

2008 Mitch Brown R1
2009 Dan Menzel R1
2010 Billie Smedts R1
2011 Joel Hamling R2
2012 Jackson Thurlow R1
2013 Darcy Lang R1
2014 Nakia Cockatoo R1
2015 Ryan Gardiner R4
2016 Brandon Parfitt R2
2017 Lachlan Fogarty R2
2018 Jordan Clark R1
2019 Cooper Stephens R1
2020 Max Holmes R1

Parfitt is the only one that has come on.
Menzel was plain bad luck, but the rest...geez.

Brown, Thurlow and Cockatoo had awful luck as well.

 

[00VicWard001]

Nothing to do with short memories, more the evolution of the list. 5 years ago I would have agreed with you - we had a capable (and younger, quicker) midfield then and a better ruckman would have complimented that perfectly. In fact, you'll find at the time I was quite vocal about chasing a 'banger' type ruckman, to use Paul Roos' parlance (Darcy & Pruess were the two I suggested). Back then we were running with Zac Smith as our main ruckman with Stanley as backup with far less ruck experience than he has now.

Stanley and Blicavs have improved in the ruck plenty since then and I just don't think it's a huge issue anymore - at least much less of an issue than the midfielders. Sure they get beaten in there at times (Hickey, Darcy & Gawn the obvious examples in 2021 - 3 of the best performed this year), but name me a ruckman that doesn't. Ok, I'll give you Gawn.

And don't strawman me - I never said it needed to be one or the other. I said midfielders should be a higher priority right now than another ruckman, and you've done nothing to convince me otherwise.

It’s a funny thing building a team, it’s usually only the premier that gets all parts of the field in sync. For everyone else, one aspect is lagging behind. In 2021, We finally get our forward line and rucks doing well, and then we struggle with the midfield - as our players have gotten older and two vital cogs (Duncan and Danger) get injured. We get the midfield and backline firing and Cameron goes down for 6 weeks. We get the forward line back and Hendo has some issues and Stewart gets injured. All with the backdrop of lockdowns and quarantine. Couldn’t catch a break this year. At the same time for the overall team strategy - recruiting is trying to plug holes, development is trying to get players ready to fill holes.

I can’t really see them getting the age and experience profile right and balancing our strengths across the field for a while. Takes a lot of Effort to change direction or even adjust in a bigger way.

 

[TheWoodenSlug]

I am not a beer snob by any means but great Northern is awful and you should feel ashamed.

Having read your subsequent posts...

 

[Down at K Park]

Not a fan of the club risking their pick 7 on Joel back in the day? Or pick 15 on Varcoe?

Joel was potentially no 1 if it wasn’t for the knee. Risk worth taking. The others though, not worth the risk. None of them were good enough as juniors to risk high picks on.

He taunt he's dog to open a fringe to bring him beers ..

He's good guy in my book.

He was a character. I remember the players visiting the ford factory for the fg-x release, and he gets in the xr8, starts it up and revs the absolute beejesus out of it. Everyone cracks up and the plant manager next to him goes “well that one’s going to need a new engine”. He had this massive grin on his face. Everyone cracked up.

 

[feelinfeline]

Brown, Thurlow and Cockatoo had awful luck as well.

Smedts also had bad injuries and was never the same player after that.

With Hamling it was just that we had too many tall backmen. He has turned out to be a good player but has been dogged by injuries the past two years.

 

[iameviljez]

Smedts also had bad injuries and was never the same player after that.

With Hamling it was just that we had too many tall backmen. He has turned out to be a good player but has been dogged by injuries the past two years.

Good but not great tbh. He was never getting a game in front of Taylor, Hendo and Lonergan at the time.

 

[feelinfeline]

Good but not great tbh. He was never getting a game in front of Taylor, Hendo and Lonergan at the time.

Exactly. That's why we let him go.

But does that mean it was a mistake to draft him? I'm not so sure.

 

[catman2006]

Didn't Scarlo call Smeldts the dumbest person he knew

 

[iameviljez]

Exactly. That's why we let him go.

But does that mean it was a mistake to draft him? I'm not so sure.

We didn’t have Hendo or Rivers at the time tbh.

 

[feelinfeline]

Didn't Scarlo call Smeldts the dumbest person he knew

Maybe spell his name right if you want to cast those kind of aspersions.

He made a dumb mistake when he was 21, with Josh Caddy:

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He sounds intelligent enough to me:

Smedts opens up

Billie Smedts talks about the Cats preseason including a change in position

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[catman2006]

Maybe spell his name right if you want to cast those kind of aspersions.

He made a dumb mistake when he was 21, with Josh Caddy:

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He sounds intelligent enough to me:

Smedts opens up

Billie Smedts talks about the Cats preseason including a change in position

www.geelongcats.com.au

pretty common knowledge at the time, don't think Scarlo tried to hide it

 

[feelinfeline]

We didn’t have Hendo or Rivers at the time tbh.

Rivers was there. Hamling couldn't get a game ahead of Lonergan, Taylor, Rivers and Mackie.

 

[feelinfeline]

pretty common knowledge at the time, don't think Scarlo tried to hide it

He did something dumb when he was 21. Hardly the first or the last to do that.

Does that make him 'dumb' forever? Even if Scarlo thinks so (which I doubt), I will reserve my judgement. He speaks quite well.

 

[BigCat1]

If Clark goes, it must be another drafting disaster.
Our record in developing our 1st draft pick into a regular has been horrible.

2008 Mitch Brown R1
2009 Dan Menzel R1
2010 Billie Smedts R1
2011 Joel Hamling R2
2012 Jackson Thurlow R1
2013 Darcy Lang R1
2014 Nakia Cockatoo R1
2015 Ryan Gardiner R4
2016 Brandon Parfitt R2
2017 Lachlan Fogarty R2
2018 Jordan Clark R1
2019 Cooper Stephens R1
2020 Max Holmes R1

Parfitt is the only one that has come on.
Menzel was plain bad luck, but the rest...geez.

In a handicapped comp with razor thin margins between winning a losing these stats over any game plan or coaching issue is probably what’s cost us a flag. (That and being the only club trading for RFA)

If just 1 or 2 of those players turned into a top 50-100 player in the league we probably would have pinched a flag since 2011. Esp the 08-14 period who are in their prime now.

It’s an awfully complex issue but nobody rags on Wells like they do Chris Scott.

 

[rocker_oz33]

Didn't Scarlo call Smeldts the dumbest person he knew

Blitz lucky boy then... .

 

[Drunkcat]

He taunt he's dog to open a fringe to bring him beers ..

He's good guy in my book.

Now that is a mans best friend