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Rumour GFC 2024 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt 1

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Danger only has a year or two left and a young family and just finished building his dream home

Dreaming is the most polite description for this move

When they gave the intro to the story, I thought they must have been talking about a team like North who could use the experience of a player like Dangerfield a couple of years ago

Definitely didn't expect them to say Adelaide
 
Surely it's his manager fishing for dollars from Geelong.
But my club can be pretty stupid sometimes.
I doubt it, as it's so unrealistic that Mackie & Co will just laugh in the face of whatever bargaining move you're suggesting it could be.

You lose all power when everyone knows - including the supporters - that you don't actually want to leave.
 

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I doubt it, as it's so unrealistic that Mackie & Co will just laugh in the face of whatever bargaining move you're suggesting it could be.

You lose all power when everyone knows - including the supporters - that you don't actually want to leave.
Maybe. But so often you see a media story and the next day miraculously the player signs.
It’s like any media and clubs do actually marginally up their offer.
It doesn’t make sense, but we wouldn’t see it happen if it was somewhat effective.
 
Maybe. But so often you see a media story and the next day miraculously the player signs.
It’s like any media and clubs do actually marginally up their offer.
It doesn’t make sense, but we wouldn’t see it happen if it was somewhat effective.
You might be right in this case, but personally I'd say it's rare that the two actually correlate.

Take Tom Morris on Holmes recently for instance. States that they're a fair way apart and the Cats are going to sit on the offer for a while....and he signs literally the next day.

You can save face by thinking "Oh yeah, the Morris statement was applying public pressure" but it's far more likely he's got outdated information, or just making shit up.

Even if what journos hear is true, it only needs to be off by a few weeks in terms of relevance and it looks ridiculous.

Particularly at this time of year, it's hard to buy into any trade talk. August onwards and you're generally getting some decent stuff, but until then, it's just filling space.

All 3 of Collingwood, Geelong, & Hawthorn have been named the frontrunner for Bailey Smith already and it's barely the start of May.

Either Bailey changes his mind like he does his clothes...or everyone's just having a guess and hoping for the best.
 
It depends on the dogs to be honest
If they just want him gone and free up salary a first, in all honesty probably a top 10 pick

If they’re stubburn then a first and a second

The thing that works in our favors might be his contract and his acl
So around pick 15 might get the deal done
I was thinking pick 15 ish as well
 
Yes Bailey has some attributes that some people don’t like but a lot of them are also the ones that make him the most marketable star in the game.
Has had a bad injury and some poor form which could be due to where he was playing for the team.
Having to trade for him I’m sure us or another club will need to pay two first rounds picks to make it happen.
Without the injury/form it would’ve been more.

I don’t think he can reach Dangerfield level but he’s a difference maker and would be an amazing asset for our team. With the group we have he and Holmes are different and together could propel us into a top team for a few more years.

Despite the financial links to the region I’d be very surprised if he wants to come to Geelong. I’d have thought he would go somewhere he can make more links to a broader network and have a good time in a big city.
I actually think there's a chance that should be sign with us the afl would ask him and cotton on to discontinue the relationship.
 
If the club believe he's right both mentally and physically, I'm going to trust their judgement over mine.

We can all have our preconceived notions on what type of person he is, but we don't know the guy personally
...and as you say, it's not our job.

If the club believes he can be the player to help lead that Holmes, Clark, Bruhn, Conway midfield then I trust that they're correct.
If we pay a high price for him (in terms or trade capital and salary cap space) we are mad.

I don’t think we are mad.
 

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That’s what we gave for Bruhn, Smith is a far more accomplished player than Bruhn was.
We were recruiting Bruhn to be a 10-13 year player at the club. Of course he was less accomplished than Smith, he had hardly just started his career.

Smith on the other hand has miles on the clock and 1 punctured wheel.

Bruhn is a far more valuable trade commodity than Smith.
 
I actually think there's a chance that should be sign with us the afl would ask him and cotton on to discontinue the relationship.
Yep, it would be a tricky situation.

If the afl was a legit business cotton on would have to choose - either sponsor Geelong or sponsor smith - you can’t do both.

But we all know that the afl makes up their “integrity” rules on the go so I can almost guarantee they would just turn a blind eye to the fact that it would be blatant salary cap rorting.

Nothing to see here
 
I don’t understand why people think that because smith has so many endorsements that he would somehow be likely to go to Geelong for less money “because he is making so much off the field”.

Wouldn’t his multiple endorsements show that he is very keen on the cash (good on him for that)? Which would mean that he is very likely to make sure he goes to the highest bidder.

I don’t know many people who are very motivated by money in one part of their career, but totally ambivalent to money in another part of their career.

It doesn’t make much sense to me.
 

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I don’t understand why people think that because smith has so many endorsements that he would somehow be likely to go to Geelong for less money “because he is making so much off the field”.

Wouldn’t his multiple endorsements show that he is very keen on the cash (good on him for that)? Which would mean that he is very likely to make sure he goes to the highest bidder.

I don’t know many people who are very motivated by money in one part of their career, but totally ambivalent to money in another part of their career.

It doesn’t make much sense to me.
His manager is the one keen on the $$$

He'd be inundated with requests for Smith to take a few pics and then put his grill on some random product... and they both would be cashing in on it.

It's far different than choosing a club to play for and deciding where you want to live and spend your entire life while contracted.

Geelong is renowned for having its players spend less time at the club than other clubs (more free time - and time is money).

Players seem to love playing for GFC for a bunch of reasons.

I have no clue is Smith is keen to play for us, but there's more than just dollars to consider for Smith.

GFC might offer less money, which is a con... but also potentially has a bunch of pros that could tip being paid less in our favour.
 
Have you lived in Adelaide personally to form this opinion? If so, why is it a s**t hole?

I don't get people who rag in places like Adelaide or Hobart - I get that they're quieter than Melbourne, but they've each got their own positives going for them

I'd happily live in Hobart, maybe not Adelaide but I definitely love visiting there
 
Yep, it would be a tricky situation.

If the afl was a legit business cotton on would have to choose - either sponsor Geelong or sponsor smith - you can’t do both.

But we all know that the afl makes up their “integrity” rules on the go so I can almost guarantee they would just turn a blind eye to the fact that it would be blatant salary cap rorting.

Nothing to see here
They may also let the current agreement run its course then have any new agreement go through the afl to check for conflict of interest.

If he's getting more money from them for the same work it'll show up pretty clearly, especially in social media where every interaction is measured.

But it depends how much risk the afl recognise in the perceived conflict. My guess is they're not great at assessing risk
 
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