Rumour GFC 2025 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt 1

[foxdog50]

There is part of me warming up on wanting JUH... We are need of a Key Forward right now..

 

[My Tilly]

Just a lazy 19 disposals and 7 clearances for Harley Reid today. Imagine getting that from any 20yr old player on our list

 

[#cats2021]

Give me any half decent midfielder please.

 

[Johnny Cattery]

On this last point, I agree to some degree. This would apply to Butters and Rowell and TDK and any other very good player. There are alternatives to those players.

But it doesn’t apply to Reid. There are no other 20 year old Harley Reid’s out there. He is his own separate market.

I take the point that he is distinctive but when it comes to the negotiations, surely it applies more to him than anyone else.

Clubs like North and St Kilda keep going after a saviour, and Reid fits the bill (or seems to) with the combination of marketability and onfield grunt. So they need to make the massive offers.

But if the person negotiating for Reid with the Cats (this is a pure hypothetical) knows the club can get a very, very high quality mid for not much over half the price, then there is a pressure that wouldn't exist when negotiating with a club for which it was Harley or Bust. It's just very smart, by Geelong, to be seen to have multiple very good options in play, and at its smartest when the stakes are highest.

 

[sleep]

Of course he is going to cost more - because he is worth it. If you offered me 12+ years of Reid vs 7 years of butters PLUS 6 years of Rowell I would take the 12+ years of Reid. On that basis, I would happily pay the acquisition cost of Butters PLUS Rowell to get Reid.

His ceiling as a player is a more athletic bont, or a more skillful Dangerfield. If he avoids serious injury his floor is a Petracca type career. And we will get basically his entire career. How much would it have been worth to get Dangerfield at 20 years old? If danger came at age 20 he would be in the conversation for our greatest ever player, and would be ahead of Selwood, Hawkins, GAJnr, etc as a legend of Geelong.

There is nothing to suggest that Reid has peaked, it would be ludicrous to me to think that. And to compare him to a player like Daniel Rich is comical. Rich had poor athleticism with one standout skill - his kicking. Rich was always going to be a player who had limited development because his athleticism held him back. Reid on the other hand is a standout in every category who will only get better as his body matures.

Cameron came to the club and was instantly earning more than Selwood, danger, Hawkins, etc, etc and that was fine. I reckon Holmes and smith would be fine. They will get theirs.

I agree that Reid has a higher ceiling, but the math doesn’t add up here. Butters + Rowell for 7 years is better than just Reid for 7 years. It puts us over the top for a flag. The 6 extra years you get with Reid may just mean you’re a top 8/4 team, unless you’re suggesting that Reid is better than the combined value of Butters + Rowell, which would be quite a bold take.

For what it's worth, I don’t think we’ll land Rowell. He’s a metro boy who bought a house in Kew.

As I mentioned in an earlier post, I believe Reid is tanking his value to get to us. I also think we’re the prime candidates to land Butters in free agency—especially considering the Bulldogs are stacked in the midfield and we’re not. I also think TDK is a fair shout as well; he celebrated too hard in 2022 when we won the flag, and there’s a fair bit of smoke around him. Something is definitely brewing there.

I think we’ll land Reid, Butters, and TDK. Reid will sign for not much, as he recognizes the long game of playing for the GFC. The other two will likely do the same. AFL player circles know the GFC has connections that not many other clubs have, along with the lifestyle and the ability to create a legacy while having a tilt at the flag every year—something you don’t get at other clubs. The extra $3 million you might earn at St Kilda over your career will be trumped by the long-term business opportunities you’ll have at Geelong throughout your life, especially if you played in a dynasty at the club. Other clubs come and go, but the GFC is permanent.

 

[catman2006]

We need another big name mid to help Atkins, Smith and Holmes. Knevitt, Clark and Bruhn just haven't worked for one reason or another and we always look a mid short.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

You shouldn't be permitted to match what you weren't willing to offer

They really need to flip the order of offers.

The club losing the player should put down a sum of money that they are willing to pay, then they are locked to that. Then, like a kind of silent auction, the destination club puts their offer without knowing the matching offer.

If a club like the crows want a first round pick for Crouch they can offer him that much to stay and run the risk he signs it.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Poor recruiting effort to only take on Smith, when we have a very weak midfield. Players like McRae and Kennedy were obviously not good enough for us. Then again, perhaps they have a plan for next year to recruit one of those big names in the midfield.

Getting Smith was a poor recruiting effort? Yeeesh. Hate to see what you thought of most other teams recruitment drives.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

There is part of me warming up on wanting JUH... We are need of a Key Forward right now..

I think the earliest JUH ever plays afl again is 2027 tbh

 

[gogeelongcats]

Getting Smith was a poor recruiting effort? Yeeesh. Hate to see what you thought of most other teams recruitment drives.

The point is that there were other options available that would have stiffened our side further. McRae and Kennedy would both be playing in our side at the moment. That is not to say that Smith was not a good pickup.

 

[#6 Thorp #7 Selwood LOL]

VERY interesting comments from Scotty there with the background provided by FishGutz. Looked like he just couldn't help himself.

TDK would look seriously good in the hoops.

 

[FootyLad0]

VERY interesting comments from Scotty there with the background provided by FishGutz. Looked like he just couldn't help himself.

TDK would look seriously good in the hoops.

I said a few days ago that a Carlton ITK said TDK was choosing between Carlton and Geelong.

Saints weren't even a factor even with the ridiculous offer.
People forget that Tom and Sam are super close and both live in Torquay.

Tom is friends with all of our Cats boys eg. Maxy Holmes, OHenry, Ollie D, Bowesy.
They all hang out together, go on overseas trips together and train together in the offseason.
Surely we are absolutely up to our eyeballs in TDK?

Having TDk is like having an extra mid he's seriously that good.
And you can rotate him forward to rest if you need to kick a goal or take a grab.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

I said a few days ago that a Carlton ITK said TDK was choosing between Carlton and Geelong.

Saints weren't even a factor even with the ridiculous offer.
People forget that Tom and Sam are super close and both live in Torquay.

Tom is friends with all of our Cats boys eg. Maxy Holmes, OHenry, Ollie D, Bowesy.
They all hang out together, go on overseas trips together and train together in the offseason.
Surely we are absolutely up to our eyeballs in TDK?

Having TDk is like having an extra mid he's seriously that good.
And you can rotate him forward to rest if you need to kick a goal or take a grab.

Do Geelong have the assets to trade for TDK? Because if it's not the stupid Saints offer for 1.7mil where we're priced out of it and we don't finish bottom 4 I can't think of a reason we wouldn't match it and force a trade for a player of TDKs value.

 

[D BRIDGE]

Do Geelong have the assets to trade for TDK? Because if it's not the stupid Saints offer for 1.7mil where we're priced out of it and we don't finish bottom 4 I can't think of a reason we wouldn't match it and force a trade for a player of TDKs value.

Would Carlton match 1.5?

What are they reportedly offering him atm?

 

[D BRIDGE]

There is part of me warming up on wanting JUH... We are need of a Key Forward right now..

Not sure he would offer anything right now... but if we sniff any hope in him coming good, we gotta have a serious look at him.

 

[D BRIDGE]

I said a few days ago that a Carlton ITK said TDK was choosing between Carlton and Geelong.

Saints weren't even a factor even with the ridiculous offer.
People forget that Tom and Sam are super close and both live in Torquay.

Tom is friends with all of our Cats boys eg. Maxy Holmes, OHenry, Ollie D, Bowesy.
They all hang out together, go on overseas trips together and train together in the offseason.
Surely we are absolutely up to our eyeballs in TDK?

Having TDk is like having an extra mid he's seriously that good.
And you can rotate him forward to rest if you need to kick a goal or take a grab.

Hold up... TDK lives in Torquay?

As in drives everyday from Torquay to Carlton to train?

Surely not.

 

[fpm84]

I said a few days ago that a Carlton ITK said TDK was choosing between Carlton and Geelong.

Saints weren't even a factor even with the ridiculous offer.
People forget that Tom and Sam are super close and both live in Torquay.

Hang on, does TDK actually live on the surf coast and commute to Melbourne? I'd never heard that before.

 

[UnitedWarrior93]

We’re a couple of mids & a ruckman away from another potential premiership.

Just don’t have the cattle this season for a serious tilt.

 

[D BRIDGE]

Hang on, does TDK actually live on the surf coast and commute to Melbourne? I'd never heard that before.

I'd love to be wrong here... but I doubt he does.

If he does... We are getting him.

 

[Kitcat]

Getting Smith was a poor recruiting effort? Yeeesh. Hate to see what you thought of most other teams recruitment drives.

I said it was poor recruitment when we had a weak midfield to only recruit one player, Smith, instead of getting another midfielder in, such as Kennedy or McCrae, both doing very well at their new clubs, or someone else. It makes success this season hard to achieve when we are getting smashed in clearances. I also qualified it by saying the plan might be to bolster the midfield next season with one of Reid, Butters etc so they decided not to do anything more than recruit Smith who obviously is doing well, probably better than expected in view of him recovering from a serious injury. .

 

[fpm84]

I said it was poor recruitment when we had a weak midfield to only recruit one player, Smith, instead of getting another midfielder in, such as Kennedy or McCrae, both doing very well at their new clubs, or someone else. It makes success this season hard to achieve when we are getting smashed in clearances. I also qualified it by saying the plan might be to bolster the midfield next season with one of Reid, Butters etc so they decided not to do anything more than recruit Smith who obviously is doing well, probably better than expected in view of him recovering from a serious injury. .

We have another midfielder on the sidelines who the club would have been expecting to play this season.

I wanted us to chase Kennedy for a couple of years, he was a good get for the Dogs. Macrae started the season well but hasn't had much of an impact in St Kilda's three straight losses.

I see Jay Clark is still pushing Oliver to us next year: https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/te...s/news-story/457ec87ecb669c1f34b66915bea56ec2

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Do Geelong have the assets to trade for TDK? Because if it's not the stupid Saints offer for 1.7mil where we're priced out of it and we don't finish bottom 4 I can't think of a reason we wouldn't match it and force a trade for a player of TDKs value.

Previous joking in this thread by myself aside, I don't think the Cats will offer any more than Carlton. It'll still be band one, but I think they'll try get him there on lifestyle rather than dollars

 

[CatToTheFuture]

We have another midfielder on the sidelines who the club would have been expecting to play this season.

I wanted us to chase Kennedy for a couple of years, he was a good get for the Dogs. Macrae started the season well but hasn't had much of an impact in St Kilda's three straight losses.

I see Jay Clark is still pushing Oliver to us next year: https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/te...s/news-story/457ec87ecb669c1f34b66915bea56ec2

I think i just vomited in my mouth when I read the last sentence

 

[cats_09]

Re: TDK potentially residing in Torquay and commuting, he wouldn't be the first player to enjoy a drive to work each day (even footy players)

A few Geelong players who've made the commute in the opposite direction:

• When Jared Rivers joined us in 2013, he had recently renovated his house in Port Melbourne and opted against moving to Geelong, so he'd commute down the highway to the club
• He also had a carpool buddy as Jimmy Bartel lived in the same area
• Mooney is another who lived in Port Melbourne for pretty much the entire time he played for Geelong; the family only moved to Geelong in 2014 which is post career

 

[cats_09]

I said it was poor recruitment when we had a weak midfield to only recruit one player, Smith, instead of getting another midfielder in, such as Kennedy or McCrae, both doing very well at their new clubs, or someone else. It makes success this season hard to achieve when we are getting smashed in clearances. I also qualified it by saying the plan might be to bolster the midfield next season with one of Reid, Butters etc so they decided not to do anything more than recruit Smith who obviously is doing well, probably better than expected in view of him recovering from a serious injury. .

Macrae was never coming down the highway; it was reported pretty early on in the discussion of him moving on from the Bulldogs that a move down the highway was ruled out and he'd be looking for a Melbourne based club

Kennedy could have been a good option to be chatting with but we don't know if we did make an approach but were turned down

At the end of the day, can only bring in players who are happy to make the move and as much as we as fans may question why other moves weren't made, we don't know what went on behind doors with approaches to different players etc, that simply may not have worked out