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It’s actually his handballing that is better than his kicking. Some of his handballs reminded me of Greg Williams, and he was also quite slow, but the modern game favours athletes over footballers. It would be nice if Max could kick like George, and if George could run at 90% of Max’s top speed!
What's the latest with Toby Conway? He looked very impressive in 2024 but just couldn't get his body right this season, seems like the ruck spot is his for the taking if he's fit
I personally think his body can't handle the rigs of AFL unfortunatelyWhat's the latest with Toby Conway? He looked very impressive in 2024 but just couldn't get his body right this season, seems like the ruck spot is his for the taking if he's fit
. Yeah he has huge talent but is always injured. If he was out of contract with the current amount of injuries his had it would be unlikely he would get a new contractNah you are correct. Was kicking.It's possible I have messed up the quote from Scott - he might have said something like he is an elite user of the ball and was referring to his handballing as you've mentioned, rather than his kicking. Almost certain he used the word elite though!
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It’s actually his handballing that is better than his kicking. Some of his handballs reminded me of Greg Williams, and he was also quite slow, but the modern game favours athletes over footballers. It would be nice if Max could kick like George, and if George could run at 90% of Max’s top speed!
In the VFL?The way Stevens and Clark played off one another around contests was extremely impressive. Their vision, handballing and ability to create space was a long way above the other mids.
There was a rumour that west coast have offered Ted a contract if he gets delistedIf it came down to a choice between Ted and George, it should be to keep George. Ted looks like a top VFL player who hasn’t quite got enough, except fierce desire, to make the jump to AFL. George has a point of difference (his strength and ability to extract in a pack and dispose of accurately) such that, if he can improve his running a little, might be enough, and certainly enough to persevere with for another year.
During draft week, there were reports that other clubs were looking at Ted. Nothing more was said and obviously he didn’t get an offer.
George was awarded a Brownlow vote in his first game, something that would seem to be a rare achievement.
We don't have any comfirmed details but from what we can gather his latest surgery may have been a make or break deal. They'd only go that way if his body was a point where he wasn't going to have a career anyway.What's the latest with Toby Conway? He looked very impressive in 2024 but just couldn't get his body right this season, seems like the ruck spot is his for the taking if he's fit
I was thinking the same thing. Why would port be dumb enough to deal themselves out of the compensation pick? Works out better for everyone if they don't match and then clubs come to agreement on another trade which satisfies Port.Any chance Port sink in 26 …. Id love to think their comp pick would be so enticing they would not want to pass it up…. but I agree matching is most likely. I notice Lord is also OOC … and they will have points to consider… if they get. Cochrane it will be complicated for them...
If we were sneaky like Brisbane … we would tell them that if Butters does happen to be let go as a free agent then maybe a R1 pick might be available for another trade…like soldo for example ...or some such insignificant player. .. and the sneak Lions would get away with it..where as we would have media avalanche come down on us..
I would not be surprised if he slipped through to rookie draft he is basically George Stevens but not as good on ball.wont be there for our pick but just saw that Ollie Greeves is related to Carji
Not many get Brownlow votes on debutHe was excellent. His clean hands, smarts around the contest and disposal really stood out. He's the one out of contract guy who I think would be really stiff to be let go.
As a 21 yo kid looking for a regular game he could do worse than go west to Perf.There was a rumour that west coast have offered Ted a contract if he gets delisted
I would not be surprised if he slipped through to rookie draft he is basically George Stevens but not as good on ball.
He is not for us
I've not watched a great deal of Stevens, and I hear a lot of chat about his lack of pace. A couple of questions...Yeah, bringing in Worpel probably pushes Stevens back a bit in the queue. Though I recall Scott praising Stevens' kicking as elite, which gives him a point of difference among our midfielders.
Seems it all comes down to his lack of pace and whether that can be overcome in modern footy.
In the VFL?
He doesn’t lack the speed or fitness to roam all over the ground, from contest to contest, for a full game. He just lacks a high top speed, such that if his opponent gets away from him, he has no chance of putting much pressure on let alone catching the guy.I've not watched a great deal of Stevens, and I hear a lot of chat about his lack of pace. A couple of questions...
1. Over what distance is he actually slow. First 15m, 25, 50 or the 100m etc...
2. Realistically, what are the chances of increasing his pace in the area needed with dedicated running/sprinting programs on the off season?
I mean, if he's slow over say the first 20m by 1.5 second compared to other mids, can that deficit be made up with specific training over an off/pre season, or are we talking only marginal gains from that kind of stuff?
I'm amazed that hasn't been coached out of him yet. He actually stands still at stoppages regularly.Yes. No guarantees they make it but they looked a big cut above the rest around the contests.
I don't think Clohesy has the class or composure to make it at AFL level. And if Knevitt is going to make it it's likely to be in a more outside roaming wing role. He's just too static, fumbly and reactive on the inside.
I reckon you gotta be 2x cuts above VFL level to be ok.Yes. No guarantees they make it but they looked a big cut above the rest around the contests.
I don't think Clohesy has the class or composure to make it at AFL level. And if Knevitt is going to make it it's likely to be in a more outside roaming wing role. He's just too static, fumbly and reactive on the inside.
Slow over all distances and lacks agility as well. Would need to slim down further for agility improvementsI've not watched a great deal of Stevens, and I hear a lot of chat about his lack of pace. A couple of questions...
1. Over what distance is he actually slow. First 15m, 25, 50 or the 100m etc...
2. Realistically, what are the chances of increasing his pace in the area needed with dedicated running/sprinting programs on the off season?
I mean, if he's slow over say the first 20m by 1.5 second compared to other mids, can that deficit be made up with specific training over an off/pre season, or are we talking only marginal gains from that kind of stuff?
Yeah. He just seems to be a total introvert, lacking confidence in himself. It's like he sees Danger, and Baz, and Butters or some other name player in there, and he just hangs back, not believing he should even be there.I'm amazed that hasn't been coached out of him yet. He actually stands still at stoppages regularly.
Your coach will pull you up on that stuff in u-10s. He's a weird player, in that he's actually meant to be pretty quick, but he plays as slowly as anybody on our list.
There are a few of us here who want to see Knevitt tried in the backline. With Worpel and Bruhn available, his chances of finding a spot in the midfield seem more limited than last year.Yes. No guarantees they make it but they looked a big cut above the rest around the contests.
I don't think Clohesy has the class or composure to make it at AFL level. And if Knevitt is going to make it it's likely to be in a more outside roaming wing role. He's just too static, fumbly and reactive on the inside.
Everyone has argued this for every FA deal since it began.I was thinking the same thing. Why would port be dumb enough to deal themselves out of the compensation pick? Works out better for everyone if they don't match and then clubs come to agreement on another trade which satisfies Port.
So why is Geelong not catching on to what everyone is doing? Is it true that we are still the only club to have traded for a free agent?Everyone has argued this for every FA deal since it began.
Because nobody has done it AFAIK - nobody.So why is Geelong not catching on to what everyone is doing? Is it true that we are still the only club to have traded for a free agent?
Scott suffers from ruck-blindness..I agree. Not a Scott move.
But i think it would be a Buckley move.