The Ancients Giants of ancient times

[Werewolf]

Some interesting links with archived newspaper articles:

Giants: Truth or Myth? – News Articles about Giants published in the 1800’s and early 1900’s

Prehistoric Giants of France and Spain Part 2.0

Well that's extremely unfortunate. These links are now dead - a crippling blow to this thread

IIRC they were a bunch of 19th century newspaper articles. I'll try to recover the information

 

[Werewolf]

IIRC they were a bunch of 19th century newspaper articles. I'll try to recover the information

One can google images of "newspaper giant bones" and get stories of giant "human" skeletons. Importantly they are NOT dated April 1st!

It may sound crazy, but there have been giant variations of many other animals (possibly arising because the partial oxygen pressure in the atmosphere was greater and enabled animals to grow larger). Most are now extinct. Why not humans too? Outnumbered by regular humans, they would have struggled to survive adverse conditions. CD Xbow Wizard17 GreyCrow you guys seem to be interested in human evolution. Thoughts?

 

[GreyCrow]

One can google images of "newspaper giant bones" and get stories of giant "human" skeletons. Importantly they are NOT dated April 1st!

It may sound crazy, but there have been giant variations of many other animals (possibly arising because the partial oxygen pressure in the atmosphere was greater and enabled animals to grow larger). Most are now extinct. Why not humans too? Outnumbered by regular humans, they would have struggled to survive adverse conditions. CD Xbow Wizard17 GreyCrow you guys seem to be interested in human evolution. Thoughts?

There may have been individuals taller than current heights but I have concerns over the level of nutrition and how heights have increased through nutritional improvement

Hunter gatherers would have needed an excess of calories and I'm not sure there would be enough to go around. Though such a large individual would be a boon to any tribe it would have come at massive cost

As an example Goliath is credited as being 9+ feet tall and other texts at 6'6" - even at 6+ he would be taller than most of his contemporaries.

 

[CD Xbow]

One can google images of "newspaper giant bones" and get stories of giant "human" skeletons. Importantly they are NOT dated April 1st!

It may sound crazy, but there have been giant variations of many other animals (possibly arising because the partial oxygen pressure in the atmosphere was greater and enabled animals to grow larger). Most are now extinct. Why not humans too? Outnumbered by regular humans, they would have struggled to survive adverse conditions. CD Xbow Wizard17 GreyCrow you guys seem to be interested in human evolution. Thoughts?

O2 levels have not changed much since our ancestors scampered out of the trees and onto the savanna about 9 million years ago, so it's not a factor, but you are correct higher O2 levels can lead to giantism in some animals (eg Permian insects) More likely to find little folk, like the Hobbits.

GreyCrow has covered well the significant nutritional issues that would limit the viability of a 'race of giants' in the past. There actually were large extinct hominids eg gigantopithecus, but it was more ape like than human. These have been proposed as 'Bigfoot' candidates.

There is no scientific evidence of a race of human giants in Earths past. There are many claims, ranging from those traditional ones in the bible through to web sites that purport to show you images of giant human bones and skulls. The sites are often religious in nature or make claims about ancient giant ET's, or both (Jesus was a hybrid!). Some of the digital work is good quality, others not so, in either case it's not real.

 

[Werewolf]

I hadn't heard of this fellow before. Could be fake news, so it would be nice to see the actual skeleton for some verification:

The Glastonbury Giant: Who Did the Mystery Bones of A Nine Foot Skeleton Belong To?

When researching the reality of giants in the past, one story which has survived the ages is the apparent discovery of the ‘Glastonbury Giant’ which was allegedly unearthed in 1190, on orders of King Henry II, following rumors that the legendary King Arthur was in fact buried at that specific...

www.ancient-origins.net

 

[Present Not Past]

Robert Wadlow born 1918 was 8 ft 11.

 

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[GreyCrow]

Please stop.

They are not petrified but carved

 

[Exe Gesis]

Please stop.

They are not petrified but carved

Probably, but there ARE tons of digs where bones and skulls of giant humans have been found....all over the world

 

[ioppolo]

Please stop.

They are not petrified but carved

The thread is literally about giants, not sure what you're expecting.

 

[Werewolf]

The thread is literally about giants, not sure what you're expecting.

It means giant, formerly living people. Not Homo sapiens as we know them, but variants of humanity that grew to great sizes. The most recent extinct human subspecies were Neanderthals and Denisovans. Did any others survive until recently and were any of them gigantic in stature?

Then if there were giant types of humans, why has their existence been covered up and who is responsible?

 

[ioppolo]

It means giant, formerly living people. Not Homo sapiens as we know them, but variants of humanity that grew to great sizes. The most recent extinct human subspecies were Neanderthals and Denisovans. Did any others survive until recently and were any of them gigantic in stature?

Then if there were giant types of humans, why has their existence been covered up and who is responsible?

The short answer would be that to reveal such information would throw everything we know about our 'history' out the window. The much longer answer is too long to just simply type out on this message.

 

[Fwoy]

Baby elephants, or…?

 

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[Roylion]

Probably, but there ARE tons of digs where bones and skulls of giant humans have been found....all over the world

Are there? Where?

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

What a load of garbage Bruno

 

[ioppolo]

Could the average human back then carry the weight of two small elephants? They're still heavy AF

 

[Fwoy]

Even by that image, the elephant comes up to near waist level. Granted, only a painting, but by scale, those elephants are shin level high…

 

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"Giant of Castelnau" refers to three bone fragments (a humerus, tibia, and femoral mid-shaft) discovered by Georges Vacher de Lapouge in 1890 in the sediment used to cover a Bronze Age burial tumulus, and dating possibly back to the Neolithic. According to de Lapouge, the fossil bones may belong to one of the largest humans known to have existed. He estimated from the bone size that the human may have been about 3.50 m (11 ft 6 in) tall.[1]

The bones were discovered by the Georges Vacher de Lapouge in the Bronze Age cemetery of Castelnau-le-Lez, France during the winter of 1890. His findings were published in the journal La Nature, Vol. 18, 1890 Issue 888.[2][3] The height of the giant was estimated at 3.50 m (11 ft 6 in) according to de Lapouge, and the bones were dated to the Neolithic period, since they were found at the very bottom of the Bronze Age burial tumulus. The journal includes a photo engraving of what was identified as the humerus, tibia, and femoral mid-shaft of the giant compared to a normal size humerus in the center.

Writing in the journal La Nature, de Lapouge describes the bones in detail: "I think it unnecessary to note that these bones are undeniably human, despite their enormous size.... The first is the middle part of the shaft of a femur, 14 cm length, almost cylindrical in shape, and the circumference of the bone is 16 cm.... The second piece is the middle and upper part of the shaft of a tibia.... The circumference is 13 cm at the nutrient foramen.... the length of fragment is 26 cm.... The third, very singular, was regarded by good anatomists as the lower part of a humerus.... The volumes of the bones were more than double the normal pieces to which they correspond. Judging by the usual intervals of anatomical points, they also involve lengths almost double.... The subject would have been a likely size of 3m, 50."[2]

The bones of the giant were studied at the University of Montpellier and examined by M. Sabatier, professor of zoology at the University of Montpellier, and M. Delage, professor of paleontology at the University of Montpellier, in addition to other anatomists. In 1892 the bones were studied carefully by Dr. Paul Louis André Kiener, professor of pathological anatomy at Montpellier School of Medicine, for which he admitted they represented a "very tall race", but nevertheless found them abnormal in dimensions and apparently of "morbid growth".[4][5]

It is of some interest that in 1894, press accounts mentioned a further discovery of bones of human giants unearthed at a prehistoric cemetery at Montpellier, France (5 km southwest of Castelnau), while workers were excavating a water works reservoir. Skulls "28, 31, and 32 inches in circumference" were reported alongside other bones of gigantic proportions which indicated they belonged to a race of men "between 10 and 15 feet in height." The bones were reportedly sent to the French Academy of Sciences for further study.[6][7]

 

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