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Brendon Goddard is undoubtedly an exceptional, gifted , critical player. Can and does play everywhere, freakish marks, excellent kick, the true total package. Do we have anybody that has the potential to compete with him? I'm thinking back to the 06/07 review when the group nominated Ablett to be our Judd.

Maybe--MACKIE? Would have been good to pick up Brennan. All teams need that utility sort of player. Not all teams can recruit a Goddard. Any thoughts about our most likely?
 
On physical attributes mackie seems like he could play a similar role to what Goddard did in defence this year.. But jeez its a tall order and would require some changes to his game style and a few protein shakes!

Cant really see any other regular players assuming that sort of role, but maybe Menzel in time? Anyway maybe we just have our own players that have attributes other clubs discuss!

Im not sure whether the group nominated Ablett to be a Judd, rathet told him if he worked harder he could perform at the same standard as Judd consistently
 
I don't see anyone on our list that could be considered a Goddard. For a long time he seem to be a good , ordinary footballer perhaps a bit more. But this year he seemed to elevate and his performance and post the finals , he would be in my eyes at the very sharpest end of AFL talent.

Mackie may look like he has the ingredients but I'm not sure we will ever get a champion player from him
 

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Goddard is a warrior. Mackie is weak.

Bartel could play the drifting role quite well I think. Doesn't have the "spring" that Goddard does but has the size, strength, smarts and skills. But he is needed in the guts.
 
Fair go on Mackie. He's played a role for us quite well and now that our plays from defence need reworking, has found himself in the gun. Had a poor year but can improve and as stated before, 192cm, big engine, nice kick are pretty good core ingredients.. Goddard is a gun and there may be none like him. Hodge is similar i guess..
Im a bit perplexed as to why everything has to be about comparing our players to others, or discussing who we should trade for and who we should get rid of..
Reality is half of those names that get thrown around havent got a premiership medal in the back pocket and mackie has two
 
Goodard has skill and he has the mental approach needed to be a gun tough player.

From what I have seen - Mackie has not got the mental approach of Goddard - let alone his skills.

That is why I harp about Mumford. You just do not get players with the real grunt you need to be a dominating player - even if you do have all the skills you need to be a dominating player.

People say you can teach attitude and hardness. I am one who has some doubt on this view.

Our last player I can think of that had the mental toughness and skills was Buddha Hocking. This guy refused to be beaten. Was always last up from a pack with ball in hand. If you get a guy with this attitude like this you are half way there.

Rooke is another worth mentioning. He did not have the skill of Goddard but he made up for inadequacies re his skill level with incredible mental and physical toughness.

And how many Cat fans loved Max's work ? Never a big possession getter but made a difference to our side.

Not sure we have another Buddha or Max Rooke in the side at present or coming thru. They are rare beasts.
 
Bloody love max! Didnt get heaps of the ball but jeez if I jad the ball and this bearded mad-man was lurking Id be second guessing myself for sure.. The tackle on raph clarke to then roll on and goal was just vintage.. Also the shepherd to provide chapman with an extra second or two to steady and snap a goal!
Selwood has some buddha-like qualities hands down
 
Goddard is a champion player. Elite like him dont come too often.



If I have to pick our next quality player, I think Taylor Hunt could develop into a very good player indeed.

I pushed Travis Varcoe's case from Day 1...so maybe T Hunt might be the next one off the rank. Bookmark it! :thumbsu:

Mmm..Menzel looked good too..:eek:


but no-one near Goddard.....not yet anyway.
 

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Honestly, what was the point of even mentioning Mackie!?

He isn't, and never will be anywhere near the player Goddard is. That's not a slight on Mackie, it's just the truth.

We don't have anyone that is like Goddard, and neither does any other team. In the last 2 years the bloke has become a freak.

As much as I dislike St Kilda, I was gutted they didn't win that drawn GF, just because Goddard deserved to be remembered for his efforts that day.

Obviously that mark will be remembered as great, but if they had of won it, it would go down as the best mark of all-time, no doubt.
 
Hogan.

Can he jump? ;)
 

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The one that came to mind for me was Hawkins. Let me stress, I am in no way saying he'll be as good as Goddard, but from a similar build, physical ability point of view, I could see him developing in to that. If he were to take an Ablett Post 2006 approach to his game, he could develop in to a true utility type player.

But I'd prefer he just work on his inside 50m game and become a pro athlete at that.
 
Furious_G said:
The one that came to mind for me was Hawkins. Let me stress, I am in no way saying he'll be as good as Goddard, but from a similar build, physical ability point of view, I could see him developing in to that. If he were to take an Ablett Post 2006 approach to his game, he could develop in to a true utility type player.

But I'd prefer he just work on his inside 50m game and become a pro athlete at that.
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Hawkins has the skill and the body, but he lacks the ticker to be a Goddard type player.
 
Goddard is now elite he is probably the most versatile player in the comp and has one of the best kicks in the comp, very hard to try and find anyone on our list to match those traits.

I dont think its about finding the next Goddard, Ablett or Judd I think it should be more about who do you think on our list can become elite.

I personally think players like Varcoe and Hawkins can definately go to the next level
 
Most teams wont have a good like player, but in saying that just get Taylor Hunt who is going to a be a star, to play half back and midfield and Say a Menzel or Duncan to play midfield and forward, maybe that could really speed up their developement and in a way they could sought of be semi-Goddards?

:P
 
Archangel said:
Has Mackie ever lifted a dumbbell in his life:eek:
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No ... but at least he keeps trying! :D

Goddard is a superstar and I don't think we have anyone on our list who could do what he does, but as others have already said, I don't think we need that.

What we need is a playing style and gameplan that will win us premierships in the next 5-10 years (some would say we already have that, I disagree), and then:
(a) Gun players (of all types)
(b) Players that can play most effectively according to our gameplan

Taking the extremes to illustrate the point, if we decide that we need a highly disciplined defensive gameplan, then we need some out-and-out guns plus some highly disciplined defensive players. If we decide we need an all-out attack style gameplan, then we need some out-and-out guns plus some super attacking type players.

The reality is of course somewhere in between - it's up to Chris Scott and his team to decide where on the spectrum we need to be, and to recruit accordingly.
 
TheOutsider said:
Goddard is now elite he is probably the most versatile player in the comp and has one of the best kicks in the comp, very hard to try and find anyone on our list to match those traits.

I dont think its about finding the next Goddard, Ablett or Judd I think it should be more about who do you think on our list can become elite.

I personally think players like Varcoe and Hawkins can definately go to the next level
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Varcoe has started to really improve his game, he has his head in the right place and knows what he needs to do. Last year when he broke his thumb he said that he doesn't look at it as a 6 week set back, but as an extra 6 weeks of pre season. To me that showed a new level of maturity.
Hawkins on the other hand doesn't seem to put in the hard yards to take his game to the next level, and has not shown the same level of maturtiy as Varcoe. Like it was said he as the ability and body to become a player in Goddards mould but he doesnt seem to have the work ethic. Yet.
 

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