Review Good bad and ugly vs kangaroos

[marty36]

Gallucci was good last year , why the f..k are we not playing him . **** this excuse for a club

He was developing abd needs to continue to develop

You cant say if he will be a gun and honest player or failure yet

Doesnt show that much yet but will need to in the next 2 years

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[subaru]

Worst loss since the 2017 Grand Final.

Not the fact we lost to North. The way we lost it. Scared of physical contact, sucked into their defensive pressure and very little linkage possession that worked.

Cant even pinpoint exactly where it went wrong specifically or the exact players responsible. All were bad.

I have no positives.



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Thats it for me.
I always defer to your football knowledge and if you can’t explain it then it is inexplicable !

Can a new coach turn this around ?
I think now it’s a confidence thing - and all their confidence is shot to shit

 

[The Karma Bus]

History tells us teams trying to play youth and develop finish down the bottom

The problem is too many of our supporters cant handle that

Im open to it

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I think the club has planted that seed that our supporters can't handle that. Never has that been a fact and it's rarely been tested to know, as they have never dropped down to being total shit.

Every club has some supporters that can't handle that but if we had a clear vision on where we were going and what we were doing, most would be on board and understand what we're about and why we are having a short period of struggle. But we want to continue on the path of hanging onto the edge of cliffs with our fingernails but never being shit while we work at setting up the future.

The biggest reason is keeping the $$$ rolling in, crowds up and sponsors etc happy.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

History tells us teams trying to play youth and develop finish down the bottom

The problem is too many of our supporters cant handle that

Im open to it

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I'm saying playing younger guys couldn't be worse than how some of our experienced players are performing.

I think most supporters would agree we have nothing to lose.

 

[ShadeyP]

He was developing abd needs to continue to develop

You cant say if he will be a gun and honest player or failure yet

Doesnt show that much yet but will need to in the next 2 years

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He was well on his way towards being a very good player from his 2018 form . Always gave something when most were not last season .
Not all him but out of the 16 games he played last season we won 10 .
10-6 with him in our team , hmmmm !! Kicked 4 in Rd 23 .
Nah , bugger him he is crap , WHAT A ****ING JOKE !

 

[marty36]

I'm saying playing younger guys couldn't be worse than how some of our experienced players are performing.

I think most supporters would agree we have nothing to lose.

Unfortunately it will as if you play many some will show signs sone will show nothing at all

It wont be a pleasant ride to watch but one that needs to happen

We have no clue if our list is capable, it doesnt appear at this stage if we can replace those senior players

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[subaru]

What has happened to our rum off half back? It is non existent anymore. This chip around game is getting us nowhere.
I'm sure we'll win next week against GC but it won't make me feel any better about the Crows atm.!

1. Doedee?
2. I’m not !

What about Himmelberg?

 

[Tex Danger]

... know any more?

No idea, just looked more emotional than you’d expect as it was as much smith comforting his dad than the other way round

 

[Pea Nut]

Jones went off for the concussion protocol and later had his hammie iced on the bench

He copped a cork in that same contest where he was concussed, and as he was already out of the game, the recovery process starts.

 

[Tex Danger]

Jones went off for the concussion protocol and later had his hammie iced on the bench

I’d say he was just icing a knock as 90% of players do when the game is done. He wasn’t limping around like he had a soft tissue injury

 

[Snake_Baker]

It was an ugly win in an ugly game but I was proud of the heart shown by the North boys.

I can see what some of you were saying about your side in the pre-match chat. They are badly out of form and confidence. Seems like they are being forced to play in a way that is not conducive to the natural instincts of the list. Might be time to finally get the razor out, look to the future with a fresh coaching group, and embark on a mini rebuild.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Unfortunately it will as if you play many some will show signs sone will show nothing at all

It wont be a pleasant ride to watch but one that needs to happen

We have no clue if our list is capable, it doesnt appear at this stage if we can replace those senior players

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Have you been watching us at all this year?

 

[Mike Smyth]

So let’s summarise:

We trade the best player in the league for a mid first round pick and Dean Gore?

Loss

We had no choice in Phil Davis - Crouch was compensation for Davis abandoning what was essentially his home state to play for the newcomers. Add to that Crouch is fragile and while he possesses elite talent he’s far from certain to reach those heights.

Loss

Lever trade - nobody who understood the AFC said 2 first rounders was overs. We said it was the minimum acceptable result.

Break even

Cameron and McGovern for firsts was literally the two players on the list we could least afford to part ways with. Both bring unique attributes we can’t cover and we’ve been completely exposed without them.

Loss

Take the clubs **** out your mouth please it’s getting tedious.

I've got more bad news for you. It's looking like we have just gifted a 1st round draft pick in a superdraft to Carlton. "In Reid we trust". I despise the people running this club. They don't even try to hide their incompetence anymore.

 

[footy4ever]

It was an ugly win in an ugly game but I was proud of the heart shown by the North boys.

I can see what some of you were saying about your side in the pre-match chat. They are badly out of form and confidence. Seems like they are being forced to play in a way that is not conducive to the natural instincts of the list. Might be time to finally get the razor out, look to the future with a fresh coaching group, and embark on a mini rebuild.

I hate being able to say ‘see I ****ing told you so’

 

[Crow till I die]

It was an ugly win in an ugly game but I was proud of the heart shown by the North boys.

I can see what some of you were saying about your side in the pre-match chat. They are badly out of form and confidence. Seems like they are being forced to play in a way that is not conducive to the natural instincts of the list. Might be time to finally get the razor out, look to the future with a fresh coaching group, and embark on a mini rebuild.

Yeah..i was one of those who discussed this with you pre match and having made the trip over are gutted at the display but not surprised. The crows are nowhere near as good as the coaches and players think they are. Your mids part way through the 3rd quarter saw that they were under very little pressure and got their tails up and swarmed us. The final margin flattered the crows

 

[skittlebrew]

Contract status

Tex: 2021
Lynch: 2021
Jenkins: 2021
Gibbs: 2021
Sloane: 2023

Can't even cash anyone in for a rebuild, even if we wanted to.

 

[Mike Smyth]

Contract status

Tex: 2021
Lynch: 2021
Jenkins: 2021
Gibbs: 2021
Sloane: 2023

Can't even cash anyone in for a rebuild, even if we wanted to.

Boys club. Generous contracts for all.

 

[Tex Danger]

I'm saying playing younger guys couldn't be worse than how some of our experienced players are performing.

I think most supporters would agree we have nothing to lose.

We can make wholesale changes without going the complete youth route

Greenwood, Gooch, Gibbs - there’s 3 who already don’t fit that mould yet aside from Gibbs does still fit the mould of getting players in who are part of the next generation. Unless poholke gets a go in mids (which he won’t) then I’d take him out so we’re actually less young.

Then you’ve got McHenry, Fog, Stengle who can fit the mould of next gen.

I’d play Stengle based purely on scoring power to see how he goes at AFL level. McHenry I’d also bring in if Jones as likely needs a rest from concussion. That’s then 2 inexperienced players in for 2 of similar experience (Murphy and Jones) so still not going too youthful.

Then you get to the point that additional changes sway us more to youth and would be harder calls.
Fog could replace Hartigan in a invest in the youth situation while dropping an underperformer if they insist on trying him back. Or make a statement and play him forward while dropping JJ (or both and play Himmelberg who can back up ruck?)

If Wilson isn’t in consideration then he may as well not be on the list as

Then it’s a toss up if sauce for ROB happens also. I’d give ROB another 1-2 to see how he settles though.

We could make 6 changes without going overboard or unbalanced in selections

 

[Snake_Baker]

I hate being able to say ‘see I ****ing told you so’

Some deep soul searching required down at Crow land. A few blokes are starting to get on and harsh decisions need to be made. A couple of other blokes deserve to be given a serious bake and have it put on them also.

Good luck for the rest of the season, these moments eventually come for all teams, and you're a fighting club that has never tanked and maintained a high standard of output for a long time now.

 

[marty36]

Have you been watching us at all this year?

Yep told elite after last year we had players like betts tex sauce falling off the cliff but we had our normal puffer fish supporters talking them up

I said our list is completely unproven and it is although all i read is how good we are

We might be but we also might not be

I am very worried we havent drafted or traded to replace what we had and ut looks like my fears will be realised

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[Kane McGoodwin]

Yep told elite after last year we had players like betts tex sauce falling off the cliff but we had our normal puffer fish supporters talking them up

I said our list is completely unproven and it is although all i read is how good we are

We might be but we also might not be

I am very worried we havent drafted or traded to replace what we had and ut looks like my fears will be realised

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Our list is completely unproven?

Also, we have drafted in plenty of 1st rounders recently.

Playing some younger guys doesn't necessarily mean we will perform badly like you suggest. I'm saying it couldn't be worse.

 

[ShadeyP]

Some deep soul searching required down at Crow land. A few blokes are starting to get on and harsh decisions need to be made. A couple of other blokes deserve to be given a serious bake and have it put on them also.

Good luck for the rest of the season, these moments eventually come for all teams, and you're a fighting club that has never tanked and maintained a high standard of output for a long time now.

Not so sure about that as we have missed the finals 5 times this decade already ... yep that is correct

 

[mick500]

He should have been playing as should have fog and galluci

We need to develop and decide on players

No, we need to play our best 22 available each and every week to get some cohesion in the group. Problem is pyke doesn't even know who considers best 22. I know hartigan, Mackay, obrien (while sauce is injured) are in his best 22, along with Betts, Tex, lynch, Talia, crouch brothers etc, but the bottom 5 picked constantly rotate and its the same rotations for injuries, it's not working. He's simply picking the wrong 22 as our best. He's not putting the best 22 out there is what I'm trying to say. If you can't get that right you should be looked at.

 

[Elite Crow]

Contract status

Tex: 2021
Lynch: 2021
Jenkins: 2021
Gibbs: 2021
Sloane: 2023

Can't even cash anyone in for a rebuild, even if we wanted to.

And that’s why we’re a ****ed. Sloane and Gibbs are fine.

We’ve got 3 slow ageing forwards with another 2 years to run on their contracts, let alone the rest of this year.

 

[Elite Crow]

How does Atkins our winger have over 400 metres gained and finish with only 2 inside 50s?