Goody 2010 Captain

[Symesy15]

Simon Goodwin will captain Adelaide in 2010, his third season in the role.

http://www.afc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/4417/newsid/88304/default.aspx

And my boy Symes has been voted into the leadership group

 

[Sekaj]

Is Symes in our best 22?

 

[cmndstab]

Hey, that's awesome for Symes Good on him.

Given that list of players in the leadership group you'd have to assume that VB and Rutten are the only serious contenders to be captain in 2011 (assuming Goody doesn't go on past 2010).

 

[spexau]

Is Symes in our best 22?

I don't thing In Best 22 = Leadership material. Even if he's a fringe player but has a high level of leadership qualities it's still extremely valuable to the club. If he's not on the field he can still contribute to the younger guys developing in the SANFL and what not.

Congratulations to Brad anyway, I bet he's feeling good about himself hehe.

 

[afc1991]

Hey, that's awesome for Symes Good on him.

Given that list of players in the leadership group you'd have to assume that VB and Rutten are the only serious contenders to be captain in 2011 (assuming Goody doesn't go on past 2010).

They might look at a new captain for '11, but I reckon if goodys body holds up Craig will nurse him to 300 games. i.e two more seasons.

 

[Mismatched]

They might look at a new captain for '11, but I reckon if goodys body holds up Craig will nurse him to 300 games. i.e two more seasons.

Yeah, I think he might do a Bickley, one more year, but hand the Captaincy over to someone else.

Re: Symes being 1st 22 material, I don't think that really matters, we as supporters only see what happens on the field, which is why we would all take offense to Craig rating Goody up with Ricciuto as a captain. Roo was a great onfield leader, but I think its becoming more and more important these days to be a great leader off the field. When I look at our leadership group, I see 3 players, perhaps even more who may struggle at times throughout the year to find a place in the 22. Does this matter, probably not, there's 8 blokes in the leadership group, it shouldn't surprise if a couple do struggle to make the side from time to time.

 

[Paladin]

Lets hope Goody goes on. Super player and leader. He can finish with back to back flags just like he started.

 

[Allbetsroff]

Of course Symes is in the best 22, watch him play, watch his effort. As long as you're not a complete unco that sort of effort gets you in the best 22 (as evidenced by Symes playing in the side week in week out).

I'd rather a player like Symes every day of the week over a supremely talented lazy player.

 

[WALL-e]

Players see how gutsy Symesy is and they must respect the hell out of him.

He was also acknowleged by Craigy as a potential future leader.

 

[Mismatched]

Of course Symes is in the best 22, watch him play, watch his effort. As long as you're not a complete unco that sort of effort gets you in the best 22 (as evidenced by Symes playing in the side week in week out).

I'd rather a player like Symes every day of the week over a supremely talented lazy player.

Yes and these are the types that supporters love to watch, but unfortunately it is these guys who more often get overlooked for the more talented types, especially when the club wants to bring in a younger, more exciting long term prospect. Just look at how Bryce Campbell got 2 years on our list and Jericho gets 6 or 7, or perhaps how the likes of Torney, Massie, Shirley all get the arse when the get close to 30 and yet blokes like McLeod, Goodwin, Edwards(who by no stretch of the imagination are lazy, but just have that talent or X-factor that these others don't) will still be playing at 34.

Symes is good enough to place himself in the 1st 25, which generally means if he doesn't suffer any injuries he'll get a full season, due to injuries to others. But just watch, if we have a good run with injuries/form, Symes will be fighting for his spot, he just doesn't have that ability to hurt the opposition with run and carry, or pin-point disposal and his role is hardly irreplaceable, nor is he only one with his kind of attack on the ball, think Thompson, VB, Danger, Doughty and there's others waiting the wings like Sloane, Cook, Petrenko and by the sound Riley and Wright who all attack the ball with a similar ferocity.

 

[Drummond]

Symes.

Certainly has his faults but one thing you cannot fault, his endeavour. Always on the bottom of the packs, fighting for the loose ball, tackling like a mad man, he always gives 100% and is someone the younger players should look up to.

vB for next captain.

 

[BACCS]

Congrats Goody on the reappointment. But I also agree with everyone's points on Symes, he'd nearly be my first picked every week because you know you will get that 100% effort everytime.

 

[sydney_crow]

Must admit I am left a little underwhelmed by the announcement of the Leadership Group.


With all due respect I simply would not have had a few of those names (see below) in there and think it was an opportunity missed to elevate some of the younger breed for whom a leadership role may have contributed positively to their development and performance.

• Symes - IMHO he is not in our best 22 (25?) and to me putting him in the Leadership Group threatens to blur selection issues during the season possibly to the team's detriment. No question about his effort or endeavour but that gets you the respect of the club and supporters but not sure about a gig in the LG.
• Doughty/Stevens - see Symes...although both a bit higher up the selection pecking order I think
• Burton / Edwards - stalwarts of the club and revered for their efforts over many seasons...however I am not sure that their current status is/should be that of leader. I reckon their professionalism will already be an example for others - let them focus on performing at 100% which they will both need to do to stay in the team

I would like to have seen at least one (if not a couple) of Tippett, Vince, Knights, Porplyzia in that group to provide a legitimate contender as our next captain to VB/Rutten.

 

[relapse]

Must admit I am left a little underwhelmed by the announcement of the Leadership Group.


With all due respect I simply would not have had a few of those names (see below) in there and think it was an opportunity missed to elevate some of the younger breed for whom a leadership role may have contributed positively to their development and performance.

• Symes - IMHO he is not in our best 22 (25?) and to me putting him in the Leadership Group threatens to blur selection issues during the season possibly to the team's detriment. No question about his effort or endeavour but that gets you the respect of the club and supporters but not sure about a gig in the LG.
• Doughty/Stevens - see Symes...although both a bit higher up the selection pecking order I think
• Burton / Edwards - stalwarts of the club and revered for their efforts over many seasons...however I am not sure that their current status is/should be that of leader. I reckon their professionalism will already be an example for others - let them focus on performing at 100% which they will both need to do to stay in the team

I would like to have seen at least one (if not a couple) of Tippett, Vince, Knights, Porplyzia in that group to provide a legitimate contender as our next captain to VB/Rutten.

Yep I totally agree with you.

I still believe that we are focussing too much of our attention and overrelying again on our over 30s players. The key indicators are all beginning to suggest again that we are following down the same path as last year and we arent preparing enough for when they retire and instead we are trying to extract every last drop out of them before they leave.

 

[Paladin]

Yep I totally agree with you.

We are focussing too much of our attention and overrelying again on our over 30s players. The key indicators are all beginning to suggest again that we arent preparing enough for when they retire and instead we are trying to extract every last drop out of them before they retire.

LOL "key indicators" ?

Would the key indicators be your belief that its better to be young and unproven than over 27 and a gun player.

You should go support Melbourne they only have two players over 24 and play awesome footy!

 

[cmndstab]

Simon Goodwin was just on 5AA, decent interview. Gave a real wrap to Symes, and indicated (as all the coaches have) that Sloane and Davis are practically guaranteed to go in to the squad this year. Nominated Dangerfield as an up and coming leader at the group.


simongoodwin.mp3 - 11.04MB

 

[ringo200]

What do people think of Knights as a leader?

On here he gets talked up by people who go to training as someone with a loud voice who shows good leadership on the training track, and he always plays with a lot of passion, but I have never once heard anyone from the club talk him up as a leader. VB, Rutten, Porplyzia, Tippett, Otten, Dangerfield and even Sloane and Mackay I've heard get a mention but never Knights.

Bernie Vince is another one in the Knights category.

 

[Allbetsroff]

"Symes is cleary not in the best 22"

*Watches Symes play 25 games in 2010 barring injury*

Clearly not in the best 22...

Newsflash, if he is playing in the side, he is in the best 22, regardless of who supporters think is better or worse.

 

[relapse]

LOL "key indicators" ?

Would the key indicators be your belief that its better to be young and unproven than over 27 and a gun player.

You should go support Melbourne they only have two players over 24 and play awesome footy!

You aren't developing your next tier of leaders by having a leadership group comprising of two 33 year old players, a 32 year old and a 31 year old. If Goody was to remain captain then it was time to surround him with the new generation of leaders at the club.

If you can't see the long term positives in giving more responsibility to those that will be leading the club in the next year or two then I would be surprised. I have said before I hope I am proven wrong, but worried the club is focussed too much on the belief that we need to maintain the status quo to win a premiership.

 

[Mismatched]

"Symes is cleary not in the best 22"

*Watches Symes play 25 games in 2010 barring injury*

Clearly not in the best 22...

Newsflash, if he is playing in the side, he is in the best 22, regardless of who supporters think is better or worse.

Yes, if he is playing in the side, he is in the best 22 players available for that round, not necessarily, our outright best 22. Now most here would agree that Symes would be within our best 25, as such he'll probably get a game most rounds as sides often have 2-3 or more injuries to first 22 players. The proof will be if he plays when our best 25 or so players are all available, which he may do, but he'd be within the last couple selected.

 

[Weekend of Bernie]

Must admit I am left a little underwhelmed by the announcement of the Leadership Group.


With all due respect I simply would not have had a few of those names (see below) in there and think it was an opportunity missed to elevate some of the younger breed for whom a leadership role may have contributed positively to their development and performance.

• Symes - IMHO he is not in our best 22 (25?) and to me putting him in the Leadership Group threatens to blur selection issues during the season possibly to the team's detriment. No question about his effort or endeavour but that gets you the respect of the club and supporters but not sure about a gig in the LG.
• Doughty/Stevens - see Symes...although both a bit higher up the selection pecking order I think
• Burton / Edwards - stalwarts of the club and revered for their efforts over many seasons...however I am not sure that their current status is/should be that of leader. I reckon their professionalism will already be an example for others - let them focus on performing at 100% which they will both need to do to stay in the team

I would like to have seen at least one (if not a couple) of Tippett, Vince, Knights, Porplyzia in that group to provide a legitimate contender as our next captain to VB/Rutten.

Sorry, but this is complete bull.
The players choose who they want to lead them. They want this group to lead them. End of story. Nothing else to consider.

 

[brjafi]

rightly so it shouldn't have gone to anyone else

 

[macca23]

Symes.

Certainly has his faults but one thing you cannot fault, his endeavour. Always on the bottom of the packs, fighting for the loose ball, tackling like a mad man, he always gives 100% and is someone the younger players should look up to.

vB for next captain.

Covers it nicely for me, Drumm.

I agree with all the above.

 

[cmndstab]

What do people think of Knights as a leader?

On here he gets talked up by people who go to training as someone with a loud voice who shows good leadership on the training track, and he always plays with a lot of passion, but I have never once heard anyone from the club talk him up as a leader. VB, Rutten, Porplyzia, Tippett, Otten, Dangerfield and even Sloane and Mackay I've heard get a mention but never Knights.

Bernie Vince is another one in the Knights category.

I reckon I've heard of Knights' leadership skills being talked up once or twice by the coaches but I must admit I can't recall precisely when or where so it might be my imagination

 

[King Elvis]

Edwards, Burton, Doughty & Stevens are all obviously great people and definitely excellent leaders, but I still would've preferred to see a bit more youth in that group.