Gun Control

[GreyWind]

Is there/has there been a study after the Port Arthur gun control laws showing a direct correlation between a drop in suicide rates and the handing in of guns?

I don't reckon there has been.

Rates have dropped by half.
But the study I read had that more down to the National Suicide Prevention Strategy.

 

[Scotland]

There was that teacher who was at Sandy Hook interviewed on the ABC recently.

Woodbang/10 btw

What she described with grade 1 kids only 6 years old getting gunned down by this maniac with school teachers trying to shield them was heartbreaking.

If that doesn't change gun control laws in the States then nothing will, all gun massacres are tragic but little kids getting gunned down is beyond the pale.

Was Sandy Hook any sadder than Columbine?

There were dozens of school shootings in the 13 years between the two and there have been dozens of school shootings in the 3 years since Sandy Hook happened.

I don't want to get into a debate on the specifics of each event but if neither of these tragedies (or any of the hundreds of others) have been the impetus for change then I shudder to think what will be.

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

I don't thinks so mate. If people are determined enough to suicide, the lack of a firearm is hardly going to stop them.

Is there/has there been a study after the Port Arthur gun control laws showing a direct correlation between a drop in suicide rates and the handing in of guns?

I don't reckon there has been.

Whilst that's true, they're probably more likely to succeed with a firearm. Once they pull that trigger, there's no going back.

 

[apparentlydead]

Conveniently, politicians today continue to spread the myth about their failed gun control measures in order to keep the masses calm.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-...ect-australia-from-terror-keenan-says/6961960

Mr Keenan cited Australia's gun laws and diversity as strengths against the terror threat, which he described as very significant.

Be Alert Not Alarmed Mk II

 

[Keys]

Conveniently, politicians today continue to spread the myth about their failed gun control measures in order to keep the masses calm.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-...ect-australia-from-terror-keenan-says/6961960



Be Alert Not Alarmed Mk II

I don't get this bit from the article.

He told Sky News the combination meant it would be very difficult to "perpetrate something like we saw in Paris here in Australia".

Why would it be difficult? It's struck me as rather odd how the Paris attacks are described as meticulously planned when it wasn't much more than a group of blokes with guns and bombs in backpacks wandering into half or dozen essentially random locations with minimal security (the stadium did admittedly but then that attack essentially failed).

I'm pretty happy with our gun laws but they're not going to stop an attack like Paris if a small group of people were inclined to do so

 

[apparentlydead]

I don't get this bit from the article.

He told Sky News the combination meant it would be very difficult to "perpetrate something like we saw in Paris here in Australia".

Why would it be difficult? It's struck me as rather odd how the Paris attacks are described as meticulously planned when it wasn't much more than a group of blokes with guns and bombs in backpacks wandering into half or dozen essentially random locations with minimal security (the stadium did admittedly but then that attack essentially failed).

I'm pretty happy with our gun laws but they're not going to stop an attack like Paris if a small group of people were inclined to do so

Exactly. It was hardly a meticulously planned and sophisticated attack like 9/11.

The laws are ok in isolation, but they won't stop an attack like this occurring.

It's smoke and mirrors bullshit from skittish politicians.

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

They only problem I have with our current gun laws is, what if we have a zombie apocalypse? Too many to dispatch with a random garden implement or machete.

 

[Spirit Level]

Can you imagine all the drugged up idiots in Perth if they had easy access to guns?

*shudder*