Rumour Gunston requesting trade

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Incidentally the Welsh comparison is a good one in my opinion - it's who I've seen Gunston working out as (assuming he does work out). A smart mid-sized forward who could even play FF if necessary, but will be best used as a third tall who can average a few marks and a couple of goals a game in a good size.

That is, a very handy forward without being a superstar.

 

[Brayds]

Once a player has said he is done and dusted and going home, That players current club effectively have no bargaining tools what so ever.
Basically Adelaide will listen to all the offers and take the best one. The trade will get done.
Adelaide can play as much hard ball as they like, in the end Gunston can walk into the National Draft, basically demand which club he wants to go to and it will happen, Clubs wont pick a player that doesnt want to be there.

So Adelaide basically have 2 options.
1. Take the best offer they can get (which will be much less than adelaide surporters expect and want and probly derserve for him)

or

2. Let him go into the National draft, where he will probly get to the club he wants to go to anyways and get nothing. Eg Luke Ball

 

[Schulzycrow]

Send him to GWS for pick 9 or 11 or 13 or 15

 

[Danoz]

We should try to get a GWS compo pick we can use in next year's bumper draft.

Exactly what I was thinking.

 

[jo172]

Once a player has said he is done and dusted and going home, That players current club effectively have no bargaining tools what so ever.
Basically Adelaide will listen to all the offers and take the best one. The trade will get done.
Adelaide can play as much hard ball as they like, in the end Gunston can walk into the National Draft, basically demand which club he wants to go to and it will happen, Clubs wont pick a player that doesnt want to be there.

So Adelaide basically have 2 options.
1. Take the best offer they can get (which will be much less than adelaide surporters expect and want and probly derserve for him)

or

2. Let him go into the National draft, where he will probly get to the club he wants to go to anyways and get nothing.

Bzzt. Wrong.

 

[srv23]

Once a player has said he is done and dusted and going home, That players current club effectively have no bargaining tools what so ever.
Basically Adelaide will listen to all the offers and take the best one. The trade will get done.
Adelaide can play as much hard ball as they like, in the end Gunston and walk into the National Draft, basically demand which club he wants to go to and it will happen, Clubs wont pick a player that doesnt want to be there.

So Adelaide basically have 2 options.
1. Take the best offer then can get (which will be much less than adelaide surporters expect and want and probly derserve for him)

or

2. Let him go into the National draft, where he will probly get to the club he wants to go to anyways and get nothing.

Like Ryan O'Keefe - he sure is looking good playing finals for the Hawks or the Blues...oh wait....I think he just about won a game off his own boot for the club he said he was leaving.

 

[Danoz]

The way I see it, if Gunston ends up at North for an amicable arrangement then the good karma that exists between our clubs remains strong.

We didn't go fly wheel crazy when we had to part with a bloody good footballer, and a reigning premiership forward, in Scott Welsh for pick 77 in 1999, because he insisted on returning to his family.

We did the deal.

We could have tossed Welsh and he could have ended up at Collingwood, Fremantle or Melbourne.

We did the right thing.

Absolutely. We did the same for Griffin last year. This situation is only different since instead of being 2 clubs going for Welsh or Griff, Gunna has 10 possible suiters. This means we can play hardball and at least get what he is worth.

 

[Mismatched]

Ward's compo pick for Gunston?

Deal.

Oh, absolutely. He's shown he can play in the big time, which is more than any of the new draftees can say.

That said, this self-perpetuating rumour that every draft year is either "one of the worst in memory" or "one of the best in memory" is one I've learned to be wary of. Is this year's draft really so bad? Or is it just that clubs have to wait so long before they get their picks? From what I hear there's plenty of talent in this draft, just that the eyes of it will go to GWS.

This certainly doesn't help, but then last year was billed as an extremely good year and clubs were in the same situation re waiting for their picks. Sure people can get their judgements of draft years wrong, but you'd be crazy to say that every draft year is the same and thus pick 18 one year is of equivalent value the next. It just isn't. Sure you might get a gun in a "poor year" with pick 18, and then a dud with pick 18 in a "good year", its all about probabilities.

Personally, I am also wary of labelling drafts "good" or "bad", I wouldn't know whether this year's draft is good or not, but I'm pretty happy to back the judgement of Rendell when he says its not much chop.

I am sure you all remember last year when Sam Jacobs walked out on Carlton to return home to Adelaide.

The tables have now turned and one of your players wants to head home. At the end of the day Carlton and Adelaide worked out a deal that was heavily in the Crows favour for someone who is now your number ruckman.

I am sure the crows will start off talking tough saying if you don't get the best deal then you will force him into the PSD only to relent on the last day of trade week.

Yeah, but we're in a slightly better position than you with the fact that Gunston wishes to return home to Melbourne and that we have a pick in the PSD (along with GC, Port and Brisbane) before any Victorian club, thus we could threaten to simply pick him up before his chosen club gets the opportunity. This suddenly takes the whole PSD threat out of the equation, meaning a club requiring him would have to trade.

Sure we bent you over, but you guys weren't exactly in a great position to start with, our position isn't quite so bad.

 

[Wood_Duck]

That's like saying Sam Day or John Butcher is a fringe player though.

Yes it is.

 

[King Elvis]

Also worth pointing out that Carlton would've got the Bock compo pick if they were more reasonable.

Our first or Talia were never, ever going to be on the table, everybody knew it.

Once a player has said he is done and dusted and going home, That players current club effectively have no bargaining tools what so ever.
Basically Adelaide will listen to all the offers and take the best one. The trade will get done.
Adelaide can play as much hard ball as they like, in the end Gunston can walk into the National Draft, basically demand which club he wants to go to and it will happen, Clubs wont pick a player that doesnt want to be there.

So Adelaide basically have 2 options.
1. Take the best offer they can get (which will be much less than adelaide surporters expect and want and probly derserve for him)

or

2. Let him go into the National draft, where he will probly get to the club he wants to go to anyways and get nothing. Eg Luke Ball

Yea, good luck with that.

The Clubs that really want him wont negotiate at all.

 

[srv23]

Yes it is.

If Day or Butcher were traded, there is no way they would get anything less than a first rounder and Port/GC would be after a first rounder plus more...

 

[WALL-e]

Yes it is.

I can find you 17 teams willing to give up their first for Day and about 16 Willing to do so for Butcher. Hell I can find teams digging for multiple firsts.

 

[Pariah]

Once a player has said he is done and dusted and going home, That players current club effectively have no bargaining tools what so ever.
Basically Adelaide will listen to all the offers and take the best one. The trade will get done.
Adelaide can play as much hard ball as they like, in the end Gunston can walk into the National Draft, basically demand which club he wants to go to and it will happen, Clubs wont pick a player that doesnt want to be there.

So Adelaide basically have 2 options.
1. Take the best offer they can get (which will be much less than adelaide surporters expect and want and probly derserve for him)

or

2. Let him go into the National draft, where he will probly get to the club he wants to go to anyways and get nothing. Eg Luke Ball

That means we can redraft Gun$ton and stuff his and your plans.

 

[Brayds]

Bzzt. Wrong.

And what do you think Adelaide will get for him?
Then we will see what happens and see who is closer to the mark.

 

[Lawrst]

2. Let him go into the National draft, where he will probly get to the club he wants to go to anyways and get nothing. Eg Luke Ball

Ok, the teams that have picks before us?

GC, Port, Brisbane.

So we pick him back up again and the spoilt brat is stuck with us.

 

[Brayds]

That means we can redraft Gun$ton and stuff his and your plans.

Not my plans, I dont work on any clubs Recruiting board. Just the way it is.
Do you honestly think Adelaide would consider using there first pick in the national draft on a guy that doesnt even want to be there? haha come on wake up

 

[Gets!]

Not my plans, I dont work on any clubs Recruiting board. Just the way it is.
Do you honestly think Adelaide would consider using there first pick in the national draft on a guy that doesnt even want to be there? haha come on wake up

Off ya go mate

 

[Stiffy_18]

Once a player has said he is done and dusted and going home, That players current club effectively have no bargaining tools what so ever.
Basically Adelaide will listen to all the offers and take the best one. The trade will get done.
Adelaide can play as much hard ball as they like, in the end Gunston can walk into the National Draft, basically demand which club he wants to go to and it will happen, Clubs wont pick a player that doesnt want to be there.

So Adelaide basically have 2 options.
1. Take the best offer they can get (which will be much less than adelaide surporters expect and want and probly derserve for him)

or

2. Let him go into the National draft, where he will probly get to the club he wants to go to anyways and get nothing. Eg Luke Ball

There is always a choice!

For every Luke Ball there is Nick Stevens or Ryan O'Keefe!

There comes a time when a club needs to make a stance! There is a way to ask for a trade and then there is a way to ask for a trade. No one here has any issues with the way Ivan Maric is going on about it but majority is pretty peeved off with the way Gunston has gone about it.

I might be too proud but I would send him into the draft without blinking and just because I am such a prick when i get crossed, I would even be prepared to re-draft him and send his ass back to the SANFL for the duration of his contract.

He wants to **** the club over, well how about we **** up his career and see who is smug then!

 

[Wood_Duck]

If Day or Butcher were traded, there is no way they would get anything less than a first rounder and Port/GC would be after a first rounder plus more...

I can find you 17 teams willing to give up their first for Day and about 16 Willing to do so for Butcher. Hell I can find teams digging for multiple firsts.

Guys, I agree with you. I'm just saying what I think will happen, not what I think should happen. You have to take into account that we are not willing participants here, that fact alone will cost us. Our hand is largely being forced other teams know that and will take advantage of it.

 

[The Sloane Ranger]

Not my plans, I dont work on any clubs Recruiting board. Just the way it is.
Do you honestly think Adelaide would consider using there first pick in the national draft on a guy that doesnt even want to be there? haha come on wake up

Ryan O'Keefe says hi

 

[Brayds]

Guys, I agree with you. I'm just saying what I think will happen, not what I think should happen. You have to take into account that we are not willing participants here, that fact alone will cost us. Our hand is largely being forced other teams know that and will take advantage of it.

Exactly, Like it or not, Adelaide will get bent over.

 

[Lawrst]

He wants to **** the club over, well how about we **** up his career and see who is smug then!

This,

It will show players that our club is greater than one player alone.

Also would be great for Centrals.

 

[Lawrst]

Exactly, Like it or not, Adelaide will get bent over.

Ok.... Back to norths board now, let the grownups talk.

 

[jo172]

And what do you think Adelaide will get for him?
Then we will see what happens and see who is closer to the mark.

More you don't seem to understand the Pre-Season Draft.

Or how trading works.

 

[alex_is_on_fire]

Not my plans, I dont work on any clubs Recruiting board. Just the way it is.
Do you honestly think Adelaide would consider using there first pick in the national draft on a guy that doesnt even want to be there? haha come on wake up

It's not the national draft but is it?

If a trade does not happen, he will go into the PSD as we will not delist him in time to allow him to nominate for the national draft.