Review Hamish 2021

[ABAB]

Absolutely.

It's impossible to view that draft without the decision to retain Lynch.

You don't think the hamstring crisis derailed our 2018 season when we were still top 4 going into the bye then the injuries finally caught up to us after the bye? Even you would have gone up in arms if we had traded a core player after a very disappointing end to the 2nd half of 2018 when our list was supposedly in the premiership window.

 

[ABAB]

FFS the story shifts so ******* quick it’s amazing anyone can keep up

When has this shifted? It has been always been reported Pyke has mentioned he wanted speed in the midfield (which even you would have noticed was a need), hence Hamish picked a fast player in the draft so Gallucci was indirectly a Pyke selection.

 

[Sanders]

When has this shifted? It has been always been reported Pyke has mentioned he wanted speed in the midfield (which even you would have noticed was a need), hence Hamish picked a fast player in the draft so Gallucci was indirectly a Pyke selection.

Do try and keep up, there’s a good troll xx

 

[Southerntakeover]

You don't think the hamstring crisis derailed our 2018 season when we were still top 4 going into the bye then the injuries finally caught up to us after the bye? Even you would have gone up in arms if we had traded a core player after a very disappointing end to the 2nd half of 2018 when our list was supposedly in the premiership window.

I don't need your fantasies about my views at the time. I'm on the record, and entirely vindicated.

 

[ABAB]

I don't need your fantasies about my views at the time. I'm on the record, and entirely vindicated.

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Well, you are always a negative poster so that's not saying much.......you must have made heaps betting against us as we enter 2019 as still one of the premiership fancy.

 

[Southerntakeover]

Well, you are always a negative poster so that's not saying much.......you must have made heaps betting against us as we enter 2019 as still one of the premiership fancy.

Absolutely. I've already retired off the back of my 'always bet against ABAB's opinion' rule.

 

[BunjiMac]

At the end of the day, I think the AFC recruitment and draft processes are quite archaic compared to the rest of the competition.

It's still built around the scouting done by a limited number of individuals who are probably looking for the same thing.

I know many other clubs are investing heavily in technology and artificial intelligence in this space because they feel scouting reports can sometimes be too biased.

My understanding is they feed all the scouting reports and stats from around the country in the system which is designed to learn and filter out the biases, such as "he comes from a great family" or "the ball sounds great coming off his boot". The system is also programmed and weighted with key kpis that are specific to your club, for example Richmond would value particular things that would be different to Adelaide. This then spits out the true rating of players.

Adelaide are known to be way behind and always late to the party when it comes to these things and yes, way behind Port, who were one of the first with this sort of system in the AFL.

 

[StonesThrow]

Your analysis is archaic. I'm not saying we have the best tech, but you make it sound agricultural.

 

[BunjiMac]

Just calling it like it is

 

[MRB37]

At the end of the day, I think the AFC recruitment and draft processes are quite archaic compared to the rest of the competition.

It's still built around the scouting done by a limited number of individuals who are probably looking for the same thing.

I know many other clubs are investing heavily in technology and artificial intelligence in this space because they feel scouting reports can sometimes be too biased.

My understanding is they feed all the scouting reports and stats from around the country in the system which is designed to learn and filter out the biases, such as "he comes from a great family" or "the ball sounds great coming off his boot". The system is also programmed and weighted with key kpis that are specific to your club, for example Richmond would value particular things that would be different to Adelaide. This then spits out the true rating of players.

Adelaide are known to be way behind and always late to the party when it comes to these things and yes, way behind Port, who were one of the first with this sort of system in the AFL.

Dunno how true that is, we were one of the first teams in the league to invest in analytics and bring in dedicated resources in that area.

 

[BunjiMac]

Dunno how true that is, we were one of the first teams in the league to invest in analytics and bring in dedicated resources in that area.

That's really not true

 

[Mutineer]

That's really not true

Well what is true, you're the one going with this.....where's the evidence you base this on?

 

[Golumless]

At the end of the day, I think the AFC recruitment and draft processes are quite archaic compared to the rest of the competition.

It's still built around the scouting done by a limited number of individuals who are probably looking for the same thing.

I know many other clubs are investing heavily in technology and artificial intelligence in this space because they feel scouting reports can sometimes be too biased.

My understanding is they feed all the scouting reports and stats from around the country in the system which is designed to learn and filter out the biases, such as "he comes from a great family" or "the ball sounds great coming off his boot". The system is also programmed and weighted with key kpis that are specific to your club, for example Richmond would value particular things that would be different to Adelaide. This then spits out the true rating of players.

Adelaide are known to be way behind and always late to the party when it comes to these things and yes, way behind Port, who were one of the first with this sort of system in the AFL.

But what if we genuinely value coming from a great family? Does the rating system give a weighting for that?

Also, whilst I'm here, did you ask if we were running those old school IBM computers, and punch cards to calculate our rating system?

 

[BunjiMac]

Well what is true, you're the one going with this.....where's the evidence you base this on?

Feel free to disagree, fine by me.

If not for Nigel Smart we would have been at the table a lot earlier with this stuff and have better Data Science partners.

 

[Mutineer]

Feel free to disagree, fine by me.

If not for Nigel Smart we would have been at the table a lot earlier with this stuff and have better Data Science partners.

So there is no actual factual evidence or not?

 

[Crows 2024 Premiers]

Just calling it like it is

Oh please inform us how you know exactly what the process is with our recruiting department? You obviously don't have any inside knowledge, don't make assumptions.

 

[dogs105]

At the end of the day, I think the AFC recruitment and draft processes are quite archaic compared to the rest of the competition.

It's still built around the scouting done by a limited number of individuals who are probably looking for the same thing.

I know many other clubs are investing heavily in technology and artificial intelligence in this space because they feel scouting reports can sometimes be too biased.

My understanding is they feed all the scouting reports and stats from around the country in the system which is designed to learn and filter out the biases, such as "he comes from a great family" or "the ball sounds great coming off his boot". The system is also programmed and weighted with key kpis that are specific to your club, for example Richmond would value particular things that would be different to Adelaide. This then spits out the true rating of players.

Adelaide are known to be way behind and always late to the party when it comes to these things and yes, way behind Port, who were one of the first with this sort of system in the AFL.

Wouldn't it be better to apply machine learning based on results, rather than person-chosen filters? Use all previous drafts as training data, with actual info about plyers' careers.

 

[dude316]

Wouldn't it be better to apply machine learning based on results, rather than person-chosen filters? Use all previous drafts as training data, with actual info about plyers' careers.

dogs, I want you to build that machine and have it on my desk by this time Monday morning. No excuses.

 

[Golumless]

dogs, I want you to build that machine and have it on my desk by this time Monday morning. No excuses.

And send me all of the github repositories... for science.

 

[dude316]

And send me all of the github repositories... for science.

I want it too look like the machine from Willy Wonka that could work out where the last Golden Ticket was.

 

[Betts are off]

Feel free to disagree, fine by me.

If not for Nigel Smart we would have been at the table a lot earlier with this stuff and have better Data Science partners.

I don't think he's disagreeing with you Bunji, he's asking you to provide a basis for the accusation you're making.

Which is a fair question to ask given its nature

 

[dogs105]

dogs, I want you to build that machine and have it on my desk by this time Monday morning. No excuses.

Bit beyond me and my programming skills. Been to plenty of seminars where machine learning is being applied to all sorts of data though and it would certainly be a feasible use of the methodology.

 

[StonesThrow]

Hamish: Oof, I like the sound the ball made coming off his boot. That's important. AND, his parents are lovely and well respected members of their community. SOLD! Justin, saddle up the horses, our work is done here.

 

[filthythilthy]

Dunno how true that is, we were one of the first teams in the league to invest in analytics and bring in dedicated resources in that area.

Might not be true but we're definitely one of the biggest investors in analytics/innovation. There've been cuts to the industry left right and centre but I know we have at least two dedicated analytics guys in our football department (Binuk Kodituwakku and Dean Dagan).

 

[Sanders]

Just calling it like it is

And you know this how?