Hannebery's gotta go

[melbournehammer]

yeah nah, he's past the ball

Because the ball bobbled past him not because he made contact leaving the ball behind

 

[Kummerspeck]

yeah nah, he's past the ball

Head directly over the ball, hands down at the ball which is between his feet. By what definition is he past the ball?

 

[Lance Uppercut]

Because the ball bobbled past him not because he made contact leaving the ball behind

I'm not as red hot on this as some Essendon supporters probably. I completely believe in our game collisions are inevitable and indeed desirable. I'm probably more dirty that Hurley didn't get a free kick (and let's face it, I was feeling pretty persecuted by that stage with the umpiring!!). I'm not going to be distraught if Hannebury doesn't go, because he wasn't trying to hurt him in my opinion. But it was a terrible look, and unfortunately in the eyes of the MRP, I think they'll find that a) he got him high, and b) he had other options.

In any case, you're probably not too far wrong, and whilst I was furious at the time I do see that both players were playing the ball

 

[DeadlyAkkuret]

Essendon supporters have a way of seeing things from a very strange perspective.

 

[Lance Uppercut]

Head directly over the ball, hands down at the ball which is between his feet. By what definition is he past the ball?

the ball is clearly at his right shoulder, not under his head. And that's with the still image which doesn't give a clear picture and I included for fairness to Hannerbury. If you watch the whole incident he clearly runs past the ball a bit

 

[Lance Uppercut]

Essendon supporters have a way of seeing things from a very strange perspective.

good on you mate, good contribution.

What did you think of the free to McVeigh out of interest?

 

[DeadlyAkkuret]

good on you mate, good contribution.

What did you think of the free to McVeigh out of interest?

Well get serious for a moment, LU. Past the ball? The only way to describe that is pretty strange, because there's images and video that conclusively show otherwise.

I haven't seen the entire game yet. If there's footage of the McVeigh incident I'd love to discuss it. Being outside the country is a bit of a bitch in terms of watching every game live.

 

[Lance Uppercut]

Well get serious for a moment, LU. Past the ball? The only way to describe that is pretty strange, because there's images and video that conclusively show otherwise.

I haven't seen the entire game yet. If there's footage of the McVeigh incident I'd love to discuss it. Being outside the country is a bit of a bitch in terms of watching every game live.

yes, past the ball. Still frames are very deceptive because it's a fraction of a moment. He was in the act of running past the ball and his momentum took him considerably past the ball (relatively). That's clear as day from the gif. Hanging offence? No, but it is the deciding factor IMO as to whether he'll go. Was it malicious? God no, but I think he's in trouble.

If he gets off you won't hear me gnashing my teeth though

Fair enough if you haven't seen the McVeigh one. I raised it because it was kind of the opposite to this, and a free was paid there and not here. Just one of many puzzling incidents - although for the record, or course, had no impact as the better team won

 

[Oneiros]

Seems to line up with the precedent set by a couple decisions that exonerated Hawthorn players.

Of course, as we all know, what Hawthorn players are allowed to get away with by the MRP and what the rest of us schmucks get pinged on are two different things

 

[boncer34]

Can't believe this got 21 pages so quick.

 

[Oneiros]

Can't believe this got 21 pages so quick.

Eyes bugged out when I happened to notice the page count. Haven't read through, but I'm sure it's all been informative, frank, robust discussion.

 

[Keys]

I'm not as red hot on this as some Essendon supporters probably. I completely believe in our game collisions are inevitable and indeed desirable. I'm probably more dirty that Hurley didn't get a free kick (and let's face it, I was feeling pretty persecuted by that stage with the umpiring!!). I'm not going to be distraught if Hannebury doesn't go, because he wasn't trying to hurt him in my opinion. But it was a terrible look, and unfortunately in the eyes of the MRP, I think they'll find that a) he got him high, and b) he had other options.

In any case, you're probably not too far wrong, and whilst I was furious at the time I do see that both players were playing the ball

Agreed it wasn't a good look and my first thoughts as it happened were oh shit he's in trouble for that and I hope Hurley isn't badly hurt. Then bemusement as to why there wasn't a free kick

After watching the replay I believed hannebery didn't really do much wrong and it looked worse than what I originally thought, notwithstanding the fact that Hurley could have been seriously injured. Fortunately he wasn't

I hope he gets off but won't be surprised if he gets a couple of weeks. Suspect the MRP will send it straight to the tribunal as well.

 

[Banyo Bloods]

On the other hand, you make a great keyboard warrior.

Well to quote puttin on the hitz ….It’s a 28 for appearance a 28 for Lip Sync and a 4 for originality
Or we can go with I’m going to stick this keyboard up your ass and turn you into a popsicle. Keyboard Warriors come out to plaaaaaay eee aaaaaayyy

 

[Japes]

Of course he should be suspended. But come on, let's get real. He plays for Sydney, so nothing is going to happen.

 

[The Falcon Strike]

Agreed it wasn't a good look and my first thoughts as it happened were oh shit he's in trouble for that and I hope Hurley isn't badly hurt. Then bemusement as to why there wasn't a free kick

After watching the replay I believed hannebery didn't really do much wrong and it looked worse than what I originally thought, notwithstanding the fact that Hurley could have been seriously injured. Fortunately he wasn't

I hope he gets off but won't be surprised if he gets a couple of weeks. Suspect the MRP will send it straight to the tribunal as well.

My exact sentiments in exact order.

I will be surprised if he gets done - the MRP have been fairly consistent with this IMO. You are allowed to challenge for the ball.

 

[Plugger35]

I watched the replay of the Freo/Geelong game tonight and I counted at least two occasions where Mzungu attacked a ball in a dangerous position but made sure he turned his body as he did. If he'd stupidly lead with his head like Hurley did he would have been on the receiving end of a similarly dangerous hit.

Abrogating Hurley's responsibility to look after himself will only lead to more injuries for players in his position, not less.

Yeah the solution to avoid those situations is to educate guys like Hurley to go into a contest the right way, protecting yourself like Hannebury did. The solution shouldn't be to suspend the guy doing the right thing as that won't solve the problem.

fabulousphil keeps going on about suspending Hannebury for 5 weeks out of concern for Hurley suffering a neck injury and becoming a paraplegic blah blah blah. That's garbage, if he really cared about Hurley suffering a neck injury he would be more interested in educating Hurley to do the right thing and protect himself rather than going on a pathetic witchhunt to suspend Hannebury who was doing the right thing.

I've mentioned twice now that I think the real reason he wants Hannebury suspended is because it helps Freo's chances of finishing top 4 but he's conveniently ignored that along with the fact that the majority of ex-players working as commentators think that Hannebury did nothing wrong and shouldn't be suspended. There's no point even trying to argue with him as it's pretty clear what his agenda is but he's not honest enough to admit it.

the issue for me is Hannebury ran past the ball.

Only slightly and when you're going for a contested ball against a bigger opponent you need to use a fair degree of force to outbody your opponent and win the ball so going past the ball is inevitable when your opponent falls over like Hurley did.

All the Swans midfielders like Hannebury, Jack, Kennedy etc play the same way, they're all very good at using their bodies to win contested ball, it's a real trademark of their play and something they're obviously trained to do. When Hannebury was interviewed after the game about the incident he was bemused that it was even an issue as he was just doing what he's been trained to do and something he's done probably hundreds of times in games and at training.

I still wouldn't be surprised if Hannebury gets a week or two knowing what the MRP are like but I'll be disgusted if he is as he did nothing wrong imo.

 

[MattyB_76]

I still can't believe people are still saying that Hurley's 'technique' is at fault here. And I don't think the "Hannebury didn't have any other way to contest the ball" defence will work.

I'm gonna say Reckless, high and high, 425 pts, maybe Negligent if Hannebury is lucky.

 

[Plugger35]

I still can't believe people are still saying that Hurley's 'technique' is at fault here. And I don't think the "Hannebury didn't have any other way to contest the ball" defence will work.

I'm gonna say Reckless, high and high, 425 pts, maybe Negligent if Hannebury is lucky.

So by people you mean people like Ling, Harley, Richardson etc that thought Hurley's technique was at fault? Yeah what would those guys know.

 

[MattyB_76]

So by people you mean people like Ling, Harley, Richardson etc that thought Hurley's technique was at fault? Yeah what would those guys know.

Logical Fallacy.
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/appeal-to-authority

 

[Kickit2brown]

Bit stiff if he gets anything for that.

He was first to the ball and used his body to protect himself over the ball.

Hurley was 2nd to the contest, put his head down in a dangerous position (possibly to milk a free).

If it was the other way around and it was Hannebery second to the ball then it would be fair to say he should do some time but he was first to the ball and it's not his fault Hurley approached the contest, coming in second, so poorly.

 

[Donners]

Cleared.

Just announced on SEN.

 

[Bennett.]

well, I picked that like a dirty nose. Malceski cleared too.

What a surprise

 

[strauchanie59]

MRP use common sense for once.

 

[sthmelb_dimmies]

Why

well, I picked that like a dirty nose. Malceski cleared too.

What a surprise

why do people continue with the implication of team bias at umpiring and tribunal level. Explain the incentives for this bias please, I'm lost.

 

[juss]

I seriously had no idea the way it was going to go. I've seen less go for weeks.

It's chook lotto down there no one has any clue what the verdicts will be.