List Mgmt. Happy Draft Day 2016

[kp junior]

Pick #3 - Mcluggage
or
Cam McCarthy
Griffin Logue
Joel Hamling
Luke Ryan
and a part of the Shane Kersten deal.

Yes, Time will tell if we made the right call. If Logue bombs and McCluggage is Chris Judd it's going to look bad. We could have had McCarthy for a future 2nd or something.


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[Taylor]

Brisbane may not have given up pick #2 for GWS to take Taranto in order for McCluggage to be available at #3.

..and we might still have taken Logue.

 

[kp junior]

Brisbane may not have given up pick #2 for GWS to take Taranto in order for McCluggage to be available at #3.

..and we might still have taken Logue.

Yes we might have, but that sounds a lot like "we were going to pick Polak anyway" from 2001. Which would still be a **** up, just a different type of **** up.
Anyway I think Logue will be a beast so hopefully it's moot


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[meima]

Brisbane may not have given up pick #2 for GWS to take Taranto in order for McCluggage to be available at #3.

..and we might still have taken Logue.

By the way bulldog draft english just as you described him another extra player that can kick .

 

[Docker82]

Liam Ryan did preseason in the bush - so it's probably far below WAFL standaed. Subiaco got him to move down in about round 4 or 5 of the WAFL season.

He has enormous talent and I hope we take a risk on him in the rookie draft.

Look I notice his natural talent. I've watched him play WAFL. His goal sense, jumping, hands and speed speed are elite. His kicking was certainly passable but he does miss a few chances. Almost every other part of his game is below average. Make any excuses you want for him but it doesn't change that is the reality of the situation.

Like it or not fitness and tackling are required of AFL small forwards. Most small forwards have to show at least potential in these areas to even get drafted. He hasn't.

He may well become a very good AFL footballer but for me the gap between where he is ATM and where he needs to me very high. 50/50 to be taken at best IMO. Won't be surprised if he is, won't be surprised if recruiters tell him "improve this and we will consider you next year." Has a a very very long way to go.

Oh, and I won't be disappointed if we take him, I just don't think we will.


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[couldhavebeen]

Well we never got a look in to get SPS and TBH ,I'm not that disappointed . I'm happy with Freo picking Logue and Cox . Ryan and Darcy are speculative IMHO . Darcy toweled up English in the Recruits game before the GF . The thing I do like about him is that he is a lefty when rucking .
Ryan is the dark horse .He looked to be very evasive in his video and he was his teams designated kicker after a point was scored in his video .

 

[stax on the mull]

Brisbane may not have given up pick #2 for GWS to take Taranto in order for McCluggage to be available at #3.

..and we might still have taken Logue.

Hearsay, but On 3aw, just before the draft, the discussion between Matthew Lloyd and Glenn Luff (Champion Data) was about Fremantle's first pick.

Lloyd said he wasn't sure about who we'd take at pick 7 and Luff said that he'd asked Brad Lloyd if they could have picked any of the Top players (ie the ones that would probably go before pick 7) which one would he have liked and he reckons Brad Lloyd answered Tim Taranto - mostly because he had the bigger body for the type of midfielder we wanted.

So if Taranto was our wish, if we'd kept 3, it's an unknown if he would have dropped to us.

However, later in the draft when Josh Battle was slipping down the order Matthew Lloyd, who apparently had coached him for a time, reckoned that he knew that Fremantle would certainly not pass him up (again via his brother).

 

[igon value]

You gotta be stoked with this. I understand some of the consternation, it's like shopping for tomatoes, which one do you want? There's plain old salad tomatoes, then the ones with the truss, which you're not sure are bullshit, but you'll probably just take the truss off and scan them through as normal tomatoes in the self serve checkout. Then there are roma tomatoes - what the hell are they? Then you have cherry tomatoes and grape tomatoes, which are practically the same as each other but smaller than regular tomatoes. They apparently go in salads, unlike the salad tomato which does not. You also occasionally have kumatos (wtf does this name imply!?) and black russian, and they look genetically engineered. Then sometimes there are heirloom tomatoes, which look suspiciously like either rotten tomatoes or unripe tomatoes.

So you bring home grape tomatoes and your missus says "I wanted cherry tomatoes" but they're just ****ing tomatoes, as if she can tell the difference, and either way it's not like you're not going to eat them.

 

[Okinakashi]

Like it or not fitness and tackling are required of AFL small forwards

I agree that Liam's fitness is well below par, but that can be improved fairly quickly.

Tackling and doing the "team thing" can also be learned (and will improve with better fitness).

He did come 4th on the WAFL goal kicking, playing 6 or 7 games less than the guys who finished above him.

I saw him play 3 games this year. One he was almost invisible, against Peel at Rushton he basically won the game off his own boot, but in the GF he was a very big reason why Subi lost - trying to kick the miracle goal instead of playing percentages - Nyhuis handed Liam his butt on a platter that day.

With a huge preseason and a solid team surrounding him, he could be Jeff v2.0 - the perfect risk for a Rookie pick, but I see your point about being too far off the standard - I'd hate anyone else to get him though.

Guess we'll see on Monday.

 

[Frigate]

I was surprised Battle slipped so far and we did not take him, but I guess the way it panned out we needed a ruck - rucks are hard to pick - Clarke looks like the superstar ruck, all the attributes, but simply fails to contest in other areas. English slipped to almost 20, so many would have been happy if we took him at 7 (not me), however I do not think Logue would have gone past 12

So you have to take "best available" into account, and cannot simply say "we have a need for this player" and fill it with a medium\maybe player when you can take a lock in long term player.

I would like the cake and to eat it too, but you can't have everything. I like our list, and I like our strategy of getting some talls in this year.

Interesting year ahead. We would have been nuts to recruit another straight out mid or small forward - just saying.

 

[Taylor]

If we are looking at another WA player returning home at the end of next season then a tall has more value heading back the other way in trade.

 

[Bender571]

The thing that most impresses me about Logue looks to be his overhead / contested marking (from the short videos I've seen). To have someone like that, with his work ethic, running around the midfield is incredibly exciting.

We already do, and it is.

 

[FreoBulldog]

I wouldn't mind drafting Joel Garner next year, don't know anything about him just that it'd be cool to have Joel Garner in our side.

 

[ImperialPurple]

Have heard Strnadica a good chance to go to Freo as a rookie.

Hoping for Liam Ryan too and to redraft Brady Grey.

Yes, we should pick Strnadica - another bullocking Croatian. (Well not really 'bullocking' as such, but it seems to fit together well). I picked Logue for our first rounder, now I'm calling this bloke for rookie pick #3.

 

[heavho]

Rookie spots should all be risks for high gains. they don't get a high salary compared to someone on the senior list so if it's a hit and miss it's ok. Hopefully all high gains though

 

[heavho]

Hopefully we get Liam Ryan

 

[meima]

Hopefully we get Liam Ryan

LR1and LR2?

 

[wayToGo_]

Pavlich being all class yet again:

http://www.aflplayers.com.au/article/pavlichs-letter-to-the-2016-draft-class-2/

 

[Sweetback]

All the players we drafted are of playing weight. After trading in all those 23-year-olds, we obviously want to get back to contending ASAP. I wonder how much patience we will have for the off-fields shenanigans of players who might upset the applecart.

 

[Sweetback]

Pavlich being all class yet again:

http://www.aflplayers.com.au/article/pavlichs-letter-to-the-2016-draft-class-2/

This should be printed up at the entrance of Cockburn: “Your boyhood dream has come true son, how lucky are you? There are so many of your friends and in society who would love to be in your position. Don’t waste a minute. Go and enjoy it.”

 

[meima]

Pavlich being all class yet again:

http://www.aflplayers.com.au/article/pavlichs-letter-to-the-2016-draft-class-2/

Legend , pav the great.

 

[Keys]

Pavlich being all class yet again:

http://www.aflplayers.com.au/article/pavlichs-letter-to-the-2016-draft-class-2/

I doubt there's many supporters of any team that don't respect Matthew Pavlich. Absolute champion

 

[maccamk]

Does anyone know where you can find the combine results by athlete. Would like to see how Darcy went.

 

[Reverse Torp]

Try here:

https://afldraftcentral.com.au/draft-profiles/

 

[Reverse Torp]

I'll try again:

afldraftcentral.com.au/draft-profiles