List Mgmt. Hawk's List Management 2023

[phlogiston]

hes elite at everything, give him the keys to hawthorn

I’ve heard he’s elite at being elite.

 

[Dewyyyyy]

I’ve heard he’s elite at being elite.

Heard even his elite, is elite which makes him elite.

 

[Steven Tyler]

Terrible luck for Lynch and hope he's ok but we are now down a ruck so we are an injury away to Reeves/Meek to being in a similar position as last year. Unless there is another stand out prospect do we look at bringing in Naismith in the MSD? I know he's 30yo but he's a big (206cm, 108kg) aggressive unit whose career has been blighted by injury but he can play. It's important for our exciting and emerging midfield that they are supported by decent ruckmen. Not that I'm comparing him to Salmon but we brought him at 30yo. Just putting it out there.

Not sure drafting a 30 year old ruckman who’s career has been blighted by injury is a smart idea

 

[hardway]

Not sure drafting a 30 year old ruckman who’s career has been blighted by injury is a smart idea

We would be better off finishing the year with Kosi playing ruck than recruiting Naismith.

 

[thehardway]

Not sure drafting a 30 year old ruckman who’s career has been blighted by injury is a smart idea

Fair enough. Just would hate to be in the same position as last year with injured ruckmen and we're rucking the likes of Nash and Kosi.

Out of interest are there any whispers/rumours regarding who might be targeting in the MSD?

 

[Noel Gallagher]

Fair enough. Just would hate to be in the same position as last year with injured ruckmen and we're rucking the likes of Nash and Kosi.

Out of interest are there any whispers/rumours regarding who might be targeting in the MSD?

I hope we are looking very closely at Clay Tucker (204cm ruckman) and Ryan Maric (193cm leading forward) would be very happy with either player

 

[TylerDurden]

I hope we are looking very closely at Clay Tucker (204cm ruckman) and Ryan Maric (193cm leading forward) would be very happy with either player

Do we need a 5th ruck on the list though?

 

[Topiary]

Do we need a 5th ruck on the list though?

Agree. A leading big forward got to be the go, if there is one we can invest in.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Agree. A leading big forward got to be the go, if there is one we can invest in.

Gotta be best talent.

 

[bigconornash]

A pretty bloody good defence for the future. Those McCabe highlights are enough for me to lock him in.

FB: Hardwick McCabe Sicily
HB: Weddle DGB Jiath

7th - Scrimshaw

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

A pretty bloody good defence for the future. Those McCabe highlights are enough for me to lock him in.

FB: Hardwick McCabe Sicily
HB: Weddle DGB Jiath

7th - Scrimshaw

Where’s Seamus and BMac?

 

[Steven Tyler]

A pretty bloody good defence for the future. Those McCabe highlights are enough for me to lock him in.

FB: Hardwick McCabe Sicily
HB: Weddle DGB Jiath

7th - Scrimshaw

Move Weddle to the midfield rotations off half forward and Jiath to a wing

Scrimshaw and Seamus to half back

 

[Dewyyyyy]

A pretty bloody good defence for the future. Those McCabe highlights are enough for me to lock him in.

FB: Hardwick McCabe Sicily
HB: Weddle DGB Jiath

7th - Scrimshaw

Weddle to a wing and Seamus comes in.

McCabe probably moves up the ground to, wing or chf.

FB: Hardwick, Blanck, Sicily
HB: Seamus, DGB, Scrimshaw

Jiath

 

[chopflop]

Do we need a 5th ruck on the list though?

We must be worried about Lynch's longevity and his willingness to sit behind Meek and Reeves in the pecking order.

If we let Lynch go as a DFA we could potentially get a higher upside project ruck.

Ramma will be ready to chop out next year if required.

Reeves
Meek
Ramma (fwd/ruck)
Project ruck

That's enough depth imo.

If Tucker has the highest upside I'd go him

 

[Slainte]

A pretty bloody good defence for the future. Those McCabe highlights are enough for me to lock him in.

FB: Hardwick McCabe Sicily
HB: Weddle DGB Jiath

7th - Scrimshaw

Can't see McCabe being ready for FB responsibilities until Sicily is nearing retirement.

 

[FB19]

Weddle to a wing and Seamus comes in.

McCabe probably moves up the ground to, wing or chf.

FB: Hardwick, Blanck, Sicily
HB: Seamus, DGB, Scrimshaw

Jiath

Reeves Lynch Ramsden
Meek Tucker Naismith
Long

 

[Mercy Seat]

Can't see McCabe being ready for FB responsibilities until Sicily is nearing retirement.

Sicily is almost 11 years older than him, so you’d think it’s unlikely they’d play together a huge amount.

 

[dermott]

Sicily is almost 11 years older than him, so you’d think it’s unlikely they’d play together a huge amount.

KPPs take a while. An apprenticeship at Box Hill awaits him.

 

[burner1]

With Lynch getting another concussion and Ramsden looking more like a forward who can ruck a bit do we need another ruck on our list? Wouldn’t use MSD pick (at least our first one) but might be a need at end of season.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

We must be worried about Lynch's longevity and his willingness to sit behind Meek and Reeves in the pecking order.

If we let Lynch go as a DFA we could potentially get a higher upside project ruck.

Ramma will be ready to chop out next year if required.

Reeves
Meek
Ramma (fwd/ruck)
Project ruck

That's enough depth imo.

If Tucker has the highest upside I'd go him

Why would we delist Lynch? All because he copped another concussion 12 months later.

This is crazy talk.

 

[Billyc]

Why would we delist Lynch? All because he copped another concussion 12 months later.

This is crazy talk.

You were pretty scathing on Mccartin and the Swans. I don’t think we should be playing Lynch again. The lightest knock concusses him. The club is aware of the heightened risk he faces, and the consequences of more concussions

 

[chopflop]

Why would we delist Lynch? All because he copped another concussion 12 months later.

This is crazy talk.

I used a conditional.

And hedged.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

You were pretty scathing on Mccartin and the Swans. I don’t think we should be playing Lynch again. The lightest knock concusses him. The club is aware of the heightened risk he faces, and the consequences of more concussions

I mean, at this point the two comparisons aren’t very close at all. McCartin struggled for years with multiple concussions, retired, went and did multiple interviews about how bad his life was affected by concussion and all the ongoing issues he was facing.

Lynch had a concussion last year, and now one this year.

 

[HedgeFund]

We would be better off finishing the year with Kosi playing ruck than recruiting Naismith.

Or maybe use the MSD to get a 21-25 year old lump who hasn’t quite made it but is dominating as a ruck/forward at state level.

 

[Billyc]

I mean, at this point the two comparisons aren’t very close at all. McCartin struggled for years with multiple concussions, retired, went and did multiple interviews about how bad his life was affected by concussion and all the ongoing issues he was facing.

Lynch had a concussion last year, and now one this year.

He had two last year. He’s had 3 concussions in 8 games at Hawthorn, and had a concussion the previous year at Collingwood.

11 AFL games for 4 concussions, with the most recent one being very innocuous.