Media HeadAnalysis: What's a match thread post worth?

[Headless]

HEADANALYSIS: WHAT'S A MATCH THREAD POST WORTH?

Hi everybody. Headless here - the Sweet FA's most-loved community leader and absolute icon of Sweet. You probably should have noted that already. Here are some ways you might have realised it was me, rendering my opening "Hi everybody" completely redundant:

• My username "Headless" being attached to the post
• My iconic avatar being attached to the post
• If you get notifications for new threads on the Sweet FA board, the notification "Headless started a thread called HeadAnalysis: What's a match thread post worth?

Well actually, it might not have been completely redundant. Even if you knew it was me, you might have felt more welcomed in this wonderful thread as a result. There are actually many possible functions and effects.

But I digress.

In my view, there are three pillars of the Sweet FA. I'll refer to them as "the three pillars of the Sweet FA".

First, match thread posting.

Second, media.

And third, general contribution to the league - stats, general presence, picking controversial All-Sweet FA teams. That sort of thing.

"BUT HOW DO THEY INTERRELATE?!"

Please calm down.

In this thread, I will consider the specific relationship between match thread posting quantity and beez ranking. But first, some frequently asked questions.

FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS

I don't get it. So far this thread has just been a complete waste of time - what are you actually doing?
Wow. What a wonderfully silly question. I hope you feel so silly.

I'm basically taking total match thread posts from across the season (thank you, WaynesWorld19), and dividing that figure by total beez votes for all posters who recorded at least one beez vote (thank you, Ant Bear). It's a terrific piece of analysis, and I have absolutely no doubt you're going to love it.

Like, really love it.

Like, really love it.

Not that much.

Are the results interesting?
Nah.

Are you saying that those who achieve high beez rankings from relatively low match thread contributions are some sort of SuperPosters?
No, you absolute dolt. I don't think posters who achieve a high beez ranking from relatively low match thread contribution are inherently any better or worse than those who don't. I just find it sort of interesting to look at from where posters might have accumulated their votes.

Is that really such a crime?!

Are you saying people should simply ~~~post more~~~?
No. In fact, I think match threads are too long. I CAN'T STAND the waffle, and I simply get SO ANGRY reading some match threads. I can't even begin to describe how angry I get. You'd be amazed. It's quite angry.

Did you give JT_the_Man 100% of his total beez votes?
Yes.

SEASON 27 ANALYSIS (THAT'S NOT THIS SEASON, SILLY)
I actually did a similar (read: the same) thing a couple of seasons ago, after Season 27. You can find that thread here:

Post for post, who was the best poster of Season 27?

Please note that Season 28 has now started, and you should vote for me in the S28 beez accordingly. The beez is a great way to measure impact around the league, and I think the top three for Season 27 were very worthy podium finishers. But there was discussion in the thread that certain posters...

www.bigfooty.com

In Season 27, a total of 15 posters (from a total of 94 who polled) achieved more more beez votes than they had match thread posts. You can see the full Season 27 table here if interested. Here are the top five from Season 27:

Ranking	beez Placing	Poster	Votes/Post
1	27	Cloud_	4.686567164
2	60	Fizzler	2.538461538
3	1	The Jesus	2.091059603
4	23	BRAB	1.974093264
5	5	TheInjuryFactory	1.918981481

So two seasons ago, there was a clear stand-out: Kennedy Parker, who was also administrator (as Cloud_) at the time. Was this surprising? No, not really. Kennedy Parker these days is typically not a massive match thread contributor these days, with a heavier emphasis than most on media. Also in the top five were two very familiar names from this season: The Jesus and TheInjuryFactory - both media juggernauts.

SEASON 29 ANALYSIS (THAT'S THIS SEASON, SILLY)
Season 29 was, in my opinion, a great season. Excellent media, controversy, strong match threads, and an all-time classic grand final. But what can we take from this simply wonderful HeadAnalysis, er, analysis?

Well, the first thing noting is that only five posters finished with more beez votes than match thread posts. I'll note here again that I don't necessarily think this is inherently a good thing (nor do I think it's inherently a bad thing). Five posters in Season 29 (4.7% of all posters who received at least one beez vote - Season 27 saw 16%). Perhaps this is partially a result of denser match threads with more posts in general?

The five aforementioned posters from Season 29 were Kennedy Parker, brahj, Ant Bear, TheInjuryFactory, and The Jesus. manangatang had the next highest ratio, at 0.96 votes per match thread post, before a big jump to Tigerturbulance at 0.84.

So what makes this group of posters interesting?

I'll put manangatang and Turbo to one side for a moment, acknowledging that they are both extremely strong media contributors. Let's look at the first five in more detail.

Kennedy Parker
Season 27: 4.7 votes per post (1st), beez rank: 27th
Season 29: 3.2 votes per post (1st), beez rank: 3rd

For the second time, and like two seasons prior, Kennedy Parker is a stand-out on this list in Season 29. This season, KP has been highly visible across the league. Kennedy Parker's previous position as admin has, in my view, provided clout, providing another element to threads like "KP RUINS" and his administrative review of Ant Bear's Season 29. I think KP holds some lingering authority.

So even with, perhaps, less involvement in match threads than other posters, KP must be known almost universally in Sweet. KP is at times combative, but rarely (IMO) in an offensive or over-the-top way - often at least partially facetiously.

brahj
Season 27: 1.0 vote per post (15th), beez rank: 53rd
Season 29: 1.9 votes per post (2nd), beez rank: 19th

I think #scandal plays a big part here. brahj IMO could post even less in match threads and still be one of the league's most popular posters. With a reputation forged over many seasons as one of the league's best posters, brahj doesn't need to post heavily in match threads to be known.

For context, brahj (244 posts) posted the least in match threads out of any poster in the top 50 of the beez (Noobz0r with 261, Ant Bear with 271).

Ant Bear
Season 27: 0.6 votes per post (28th), beez rank: 13th
Season 29: 1.8 votes per post (3rd), beez rank: 17th

Ant Bear hasn't been particularly strong on the media side of things this season, but typically polls well in the beez and has been one of the best posters of the past ten seasons. The Sweet FA clearly values Ant Bear's general posting contribution to the league with a 17th place finish this season.

Interestingly, Ant Bear's votes: post ratio seems to have shifted this season. In fact, his ratio is around three times higher this season than in Season 27. This could be at least partially explained by the admin title, with visibility an obvious factor with beez voters (see also Kennedy Parker in Season 27).

TheInjuryFactory
Season 27: 1.9 votes per post (5th), beez rank: 5th
Season 29: 1.4 votes per post (4th), beez rank: 1st

A model of consistency, TIF recorded high beez finishes, and also high votes: post ratios, in both Season 27 and Season 29. TheInjuryFactory is a strong match thread poster (almost 1,000 posts in match threads across the season - 38th out of 107 posters who achieved at least one vote), but I think it's media where TIF really shines.

In addition to captaincy, it's not a huge surprise to me that TheInjuryFactory features across both seasons and across both metrics.

The Jesus
Season 27: 2.1 votes per post (3rd), beez rank: 1st
Season 29: 1.1 votes per post (5th), beez rank 6th

Similarly, The Jesus is not a big surprise. This season specifically, The Jesus started with a bang with The Evolution of a Poster, before being one of the main players in expansion discussions later in the season.

The Jesus has been very consistent in match thread posters, but is also the type who can penetrate a match thread with just one or two posts if needed. Somebody who stays in mind easily.

SEASON 29: COMPLETE TABLE

Username	Team	beez rank	beez votes	Match rank	Match posts	Votes/posts
Kennedy Parker	GCR	3	1074	78	334	3.215568862
brahj	GCR	19	472	88	244	1.93442623
Ant Bear	WCW	17	483	82	271	1.782287823
TheInjuryFactory	CIW	1	1353	38	968	1.397727273
Harvey Manfrenjensenden	MBD	6	839	46	786	1.067430025
manangatang	MBD	2	1325	16	1381	0.9594496741
Tigerturbulance	FUR	4	880	28	1049	0.8388941849
Quadzilla	SCS	92	15	107	19	0.7894736842
Elton Johns Wig	WCW	7	827	24	1150	0.7191304348
Ned_Flanders	FUR	9	674	34	1007	0.6693147964
Barrybran	GUM	5	852	13	1486	0.5733512786
pantsredacted	CIW	22	382	50	686	0.556851312
Headless	MBD	12	580	29	1048	0.5534351145
The Filth Wizard	GCR	16	540	30	1040	0.5192307692
Loonerty	ESH	27	264	66	531	0.4971751412
Marlowe	GCR	24	313	53	647	0.4837712519
Tony Lynn 15	BAG	15	546	23	1192	0.4580536913
miggs	GCR	64	38	103	83	0.4578313253
beez	GUM	29	248	63	544	0.4558823529
TJASTA	FUR	23	371	43	816	0.4546568627
bone2468	GUM	51	62	99	138	0.4492753623
Tonga Bob	CIW	11	606	18	1360	0.4455882353
Noobz0r	GCR	46	114	86	261	0.4367816092
serial_thrilla	DRA	8	761	5	1776	0.428490991
ClarkeM	WCW	26	295	47	724	0.4074585635
Mobbs	ROY	21	401	35	1002	0.4001996008
Proper Gander	MBD	14	548	15	1412	0.388101983
NaturalDisaster	CIW	18	476	19	1350	0.3525925926
Antonio Blue Vein	BAG	13	553	7	1650	0.3351515152
por_please_ya	ESH	35	186	62	558	0.3333333333
Test Tickle	LVB	10	625	4	1965	0.3180661578
Rich the babe Evans	SCS	89	17	104	54	0.3148148148
Dingster	WCW	25	303	31	1038	0.2919075145
Mooch	ROY	43	132	73	462	0.2857142857
Chipmunk	ESH	38	168	58	604	0.2781456954
philreich	SCS	20	417	9	1535	0.2716612378
Agent93	ESH	27	264	37	990	0.2666666667
KohPhi	BAG	33	192	47	724	0.2651933702
TheCoach16	BAG	78	27	102	107	0.2523364486
Blacky	GCR	54	52	89	229	0.2270742358
_Cayz_	DEM	68	36	97	162	0.2222222222
U2tigers	WCW	36	178	42	851	0.2091656874
Hate	FUR	60	46	90	228	0.201754386
GWS Goose	GUM	40	166	40	890	0.1865168539
Wacky Tiger	FUR	57	51	81	280	0.1821428571
Ljp86	DRA	79	26	98	148	0.1756756757
BallaratBulldog	WCW	75	31	95	186	0.1666666667
TedDougChris	ROY	30	247	12	1504	0.1642287234
I Don’t Care	ROY	44	131	44	805	0.1627329193
SarahSmiles	SCS	37	176	27	1096	0.1605839416
BlueE	GUM	102	7	105	45	0.1555555556
Nunez	SCS	64	38	84	263	0.144486692
Bloodied52	WCW	34	187	21	1303	0.1435149655
Tarkyn_24	MBD	31	215	11	1513	0.1421017845
Wooshette	CIW	42	149	24	1150	0.1295652174
SSwans2011	WCW	92	15	100	118	0.1271186441
GremioPower	SCS	84	21	96	166	0.1265060241
harry000	CIW	45	124	36	997	0.1243731194
Biggie	ESH	79	26	92	222	0.1171171171
AceAndy	DRA	41	155	16	1381	0.1122375091
piggy smalls	FUR	85	20	93	200	0.1
fitzroybowiedog	ROY	83	22	91	223	0.09865470852
sausageroll	MBD	52	57	60	582	0.09793814433
Callums_Guns	MBD	32	205	3	2145	0.09557109557
Riviat	BAG	52	57	56	620	0.09193548387
Knifey Spooney	DRA	61	45	68	516	0.08720930233
MWPP	LVB	47	88	33	1015	0.08669950739
Kapow!!!	GCR	49	74	41	872	0.08486238532
DemonJim	MBD	75	31	77	368	0.08423913043
Runk	ROY	74	32	75	395	0.08101265823
StFly	GUM	62	41	69	513	0.07992202729
Matera92	LVB	86	19	87	245	0.07755102041
fumbler	DRA	58	48	54	633	0.07582938389
Norma Lee Ava	BAG	50	69	39	913	0.07557502738
Carson Dial	FUR	72	33	72	470	0.07021276596
Golumless	ESH	69	35	70	507	0.06903353057
Rodney Dangerfield	GUM	89	17	84	263	0.06463878327
WaynesWorld19	BAG	38	168	1	2624	0.06402439024
SM	ESH	62	41	51	663	0.06184012066
TY24	ESH	70	34	61	573	0.05933682373
haydo	GUM	77	28	71	479	0.05845511482
Taylor	GUM	48	85	8	1542	0.0551232166
Hatchy1992	DRA	64	38	49	694	0.05475504323
PurpleGreenRed	ROY	82	23	74	421	0.05463182898
comewhatmay	CIW	72	33	55	624	0.05288461538
cadsky	BAG	54	52	26	1118	0.04651162791
tgrs	LVB	95	12	80	292	0.04109589041
jackster83	SCS	86	19	67	523	0.03632887189
GotTheGoodes	SCS	102	7	94	194	0.03608247423
Cadaver	CIW	86	19	64	543	0.0349907919
Far Kern	SCS	101	9	83	269	0.03345724907
spookism	GCR	95	12	76	381	0.03149606299
Cesoir	GCR	100	10	79	323	0.03095975232
Santoz	BAG	54	52	6	1730	0.03005780347
cooney	MBD	64	38	22	1283	0.02961808262
Quivorir	DEM	106	1	106	38	0.02631578947
Yakker	MBD	81	25	32	1016	0.02460629921
Metalcrusher	LVB	70	34	10	1516	0.02242744063
Drunkgoliath	ESH	97	11	65	542	0.02029520295
Dinsdale	CIW	94	13	52	658	0.01975683891
WFL	BAG	59	47	2	2504	0.01876996805
CakeEater	GCR	97	11	59	588	0.01870748299
CALL ME SNAKE	BAG	102	7	57	616	0.01136363636
Cap	LVB	91	16	14	1430	0.01118881119
JT_the_Man	WCW	106	1	101	108	0.009259259259
Strigoi	DRA	97	11	20	1339	0.008215085885
Cactus_	WCW	105	5	45	794	0.006297229219

Was this analysis completely pointless? Yes.

Is there much to take out of it? Probably not.

Should you post in this thread right now to make this thread go bloody viral? BIG TIME.

 

[ClarkeM]

Always love someone that goes to effort for absolutely no reason. That's what this league is about and I love it. Well done Head.

 

[ClarkeM]

In fact, his ratio is around three times higher this season than in Season 29

Huh?

 

[cats2rise]

Question:

What is the Beez trophy?

 

[Headless]

You can see how unusual Kennedy Parker's result in Season 29 of ~3.2 beez votes per match thread post is in the image above. brahj and Ant Bear are the posters in that 1.75 - 2.10 range.

 

[nahnah]

dont worry JT_the_Man I'm back next season to give you some votes again

 

[ClarkeM]

dont worry JT_the_Man I'm back next season to give you some votes again

Piss off

 

[Headless]

Huh?

I did a boo boo. Thanks - fixed.

Question:

What is the Beez trophy?

Look, cats! I made a thread! It's completely pointless!

 

[nahnah]

Piss off

ok

 

[cats2rise]

Look, cats! I made a thread! It's completely pointless!

That doesn’t answer my question.

But, yes I noticed. I love that you were my favourite poster in the league when you were barely active, and then something happened a few seasons ago... and bamn, here we are. Still my favourite poster, and the best thread starter going around.

 

[Headless]

 

[Yakker]

Wow
how underrated am I???

 

[nahnah]

View attachment 898262

 

[Headless]

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It was the best thread of Season 29 mate.

 

[Barrybran]

Fizzler last season, Quadzilla this season. We're going to have to give a name to the beez pisstake award.

 

[Headless]

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Hey everybody please don't like this post because it will make me sad etc. in my very own and first ever thread.

 

[Marlowe]

The posters who managed between 400-700 match thread posts while maintaining a beez::MTP ratio above .40 are the most attractive and alluring posters in the Sweet FA, imo.

 

[Ned_Flanders]

The posters who managed between 400-700 match thread posts while maintaining a beez::MTP ratio above .40 are the most attractive and alluring posters in the Sweet FA, imo.

keep it in your pants missy

 

[Headless]

The posters who managed between 400-700 match thread posts while maintaining a beez::MTP ratio above .40 are the most attractive and alluring posters in the Sweet FA, imo.

I've always said that.

 

[Kennedy Parker]

Thanks Headless, I'll endeavour to improve my ratio next season by posting even less in match threads.

 

[Headless]

Thanks Headless, I'll endeavour to improve my ratio next season by posting even less in match threads.

Oh, so the thread wasn't entirely pointless after all!

 

[Marlowe]

keep it in your pants missy

In this silk kimono, it makes no difference.

 

[Barrybran]

The posters who managed between 400-700 match thread posts while maintaining a beez::MTP ratio above .40 are the most attractive and alluring posters in the Sweet FA, imo.

Might need to widen those margins a little I think

 

[Marlowe]

Might need to widen those margins a little I think

Yeah, alright. 400-1485 it is.

 

[JT_the_Man]

dont worry JT_the_Man I'm back next season to give you some votes again

2 votes?

This is uncharted territory. We are through the looking glass people!