raskolnikov
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I'm interested in creating a website. How do I go about it?
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How do you create a website?
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ben_cats_fan
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Firstly, you've got to have an idea about what sort of a website you want to have. Is it a blog? Is it a portfolio? Is it for a club or association?
Once you've worked out that, we can help you with specifics.
raskolnikov
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I already have an idea. I want to create a website for piano players. I'm really looking at information as to how to actually upload it onto the internet. Cheers.
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Sorry for being a sticky beak Noddy, but is it for actual pianos, or the people that play them
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It really depends what you are wanting to do Noddy.
Are you looking to sell piano's? Are you looking to teach people how to play piano from a website?
Do you know how to code websites? Do you know how to design them? The fact you are asking this question 'suggests' you don't.
Are you wanting to pay for hosting or are you trying to do this on a budget or free?
It is actually a relatively complex question. I do believe anyone can get a website going but the above questions need to be answered for someone to be able to help you.
Are you looking to sell piano's? Are you looking to teach people how to play piano from a website?
Do you know how to code websites? Do you know how to design them? The fact you are asking this question 'suggests' you don't.
Are you wanting to pay for hosting or are you trying to do this on a budget or free?
It is actually a relatively complex question. I do believe anyone can get a website going but the above questions need to be answered for someone to be able to help you.
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Code:
<html>
<bgcolor=black>
<header>
<center>/images/header.jpg</center><p></p>
<b>Noddy's Piano Website</b>
</bgcolor>
</header>
lol i play piano. my name is noddy. derp derp derp
</html>But seriously, use dreamweaver, get a domain name and get a host.
ben_cats_fan
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You could use a blogging software like WordPress or Blogger.
You wouldn't even need a domain name and hosting. You could just use a sub-domain from there.
If you intend to sell advertising space or even sell stuff full stop you can't use a free WordPress blog. Blogger is different, I think.
But I would recommend setting up a WordPress blog and learning to use it, then maybe buying a domain name and webhosting and setting up a WordPress site that way. That's how I set up my website and it's amazingly easy.
But I would recommend setting up a WordPress blog and learning to use it, then maybe buying a domain name and webhosting and setting up a WordPress site that way. That's how I set up my website and it's amazingly easy.
raskolnikov
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Thanks for all the tips.
At university we had to make a webpage. We used geocities but from what I gather this is not possible any longer.
I basically want to create a discussion forum, similar to this one. Discuss things like piano teaching techniques, good pieces to play, piano and theory exams etc.
At university we had to make a webpage. We used geocities but from what I gather this is not possible any longer.
I basically want to create a discussion forum, similar to this one. Discuss things like piano teaching techniques, good pieces to play, piano and theory exams etc.
You'll most likely need separate message board systems for that.
PHBB, Vbulletin and IPB are popular.
There are also free web-based alternatives, which are usually just derivatives of older versions of the above.
As for building the site, Drupal or Joomla could be options if you want to get something up and running quickly without worrying too much about coding.
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If you want a free mess around forum get invisionfree.
I used to mod those for fun as a kid
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I used to mod those for fun as a kid
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A discussion forum?
Use www.takeforum.com
very simple and I have one a few years back. Can't even remember what it was.
Just on this, I have a domain name registered and looking to set up simple website to sell stud cattle (a business on the side for the old man).
I've got Adobe GoLive CS2 from way back (maybe 3-4 years old). I like the software and I can navigate my way round it but I still don't understand the basic fundamentals of fttp and uploading.
As I understand it, there's a "public_html" folder that needs to contain all publicly available information. Moving files into this folder is a simple click and drag but I don't understand how to administrate all the files (outside public_html) in order for the website to operate.
http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/2440/screendyswebsite.jpg
copy that into your browser if the above is too small.
I've got Adobe GoLive CS2 from way back (maybe 3-4 years old). I like the software and I can navigate my way round it but I still don't understand the basic fundamentals of fttp and uploading.
As I understand it, there's a "public_html" folder that needs to contain all publicly available information. Moving files into this folder is a simple click and drag but I don't understand how to administrate all the files (outside public_html) in order for the website to operate.
http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/2440/screendyswebsite.jpg
copy that into your browser if the above is too small.
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So.... do you have a question or?
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How did you go mate?
If you're still stuck...
Apologies if you know some of this stuff already, but basically yeah everything goes into the public_html folder. You probably wont need to touch anything outside of that folder, or upload anything outside of it.
This includes your images folder and any other folders/files which the webpages use - they all need to be inside public_html. Make sure you keep the folder structure the same as when you created it though.
A folder structure like this is pretty common for small websites (1-20 pages or so)....
public_html
|-images
|-pdf
|-css
|-javascript
|-whatever
|-whatever2
etc
with index.htm inside the public_html, folder along with any other .htm or .html files.
If you don't have an index.htm, index.html or default.htm file already (any one), you'll need to rename your home page (or whichever page you want to load up first) to that and update any links to that page (if golive doesn't do it for you automatically). I usually use index.htm myself.
Basically when you go to www.website.com.au or www.website.com.au/index.htm from your point of view you are loading "public_html/index.htm". Then say that index.htm page uses an image "logo.jpg" in it somewhere, which is stored in a folder 'images', that images folder would go in public_html, and that particular image would load up at www.website.com.au/images/logo.jpg. Or public_html/images/logo.jpg would again be the file path from your point view. The actual code (I assume automatically created by GoLive) would probably use images/logo.jpg as it looks for the image file relative to where the htm file is stored, so doesn't need the address before it. This is why you need files used within a web page also in the public_html folder (or a sub-folder within public_html), as they also need to accessed by the public, even though not directly.
Make sure that in the public_html folder there is not already an index or default page. Webhosts will often have a placeholder page already in there, so say if you were to upload a index.html file, and the host already has an index.htm file, their file may take priority over yours. Just delete, overwite or rename theirs to anything else and yours should work.
I find it easiest to have on my hard drive a folder named public_html (or can be anything) with everything in that folder with the exact same structure as I want on the website. GoLive may do this automatically for you. If it does, it is important to keep the exact same structure on ftp, or your pages will be missing graphics and links wont work. Same goes if not automatically created - whatever folder structure you use, you need to repeat on the ftp site.
If you are using folders within folders while building the site, the same applies. So for example if I had a gallery folder, with an album1 folder in that, and then an index.htm file in that, the url would then be www.website.com.au/gallery/album1/ or if I had a file named new.htm it would be www.website.com.au/gallery/album1/new.htm
Hope that helps mate. If you need any further detail or help just ask here or pm me if you want.
btw, it looks like your host is using cpanel as the control panel (which you should have login info for) - this is where you would setup stuff like email addresses, extra ftp users/passwords and a heap of other stuff you may not need at this stage. Should stuff like usage stats for your site too. By default none of that should really affect whether you're site will work or not, as far as I know, so it should work straight off just using ftp. Just be careful if messing around with stuff you don't know what it is in cpanel (like installing scripts and stuff) - that will probably mess up your site, but yeah by default none of that should be in use.
If you're still stuck...
Apologies if you know some of this stuff already, but basically yeah everything goes into the public_html folder. You probably wont need to touch anything outside of that folder, or upload anything outside of it.
This includes your images folder and any other folders/files which the webpages use - they all need to be inside public_html. Make sure you keep the folder structure the same as when you created it though.
A folder structure like this is pretty common for small websites (1-20 pages or so)....
public_html
|-images
|-css
|-javascript
|-whatever
|-whatever2
etc
with index.htm inside the public_html, folder along with any other .htm or .html files.
If you don't have an index.htm, index.html or default.htm file already (any one), you'll need to rename your home page (or whichever page you want to load up first) to that and update any links to that page (if golive doesn't do it for you automatically). I usually use index.htm myself.
Basically when you go to www.website.com.au or www.website.com.au/index.htm from your point of view you are loading "public_html/index.htm". Then say that index.htm page uses an image "logo.jpg" in it somewhere, which is stored in a folder 'images', that images folder would go in public_html, and that particular image would load up at www.website.com.au/images/logo.jpg. Or public_html/images/logo.jpg would again be the file path from your point view. The actual code (I assume automatically created by GoLive) would probably use images/logo.jpg as it looks for the image file relative to where the htm file is stored, so doesn't need the address before it. This is why you need files used within a web page also in the public_html folder (or a sub-folder within public_html), as they also need to accessed by the public, even though not directly.
Make sure that in the public_html folder there is not already an index or default page. Webhosts will often have a placeholder page already in there, so say if you were to upload a index.html file, and the host already has an index.htm file, their file may take priority over yours. Just delete, overwite or rename theirs to anything else and yours should work.
I find it easiest to have on my hard drive a folder named public_html (or can be anything) with everything in that folder with the exact same structure as I want on the website. GoLive may do this automatically for you. If it does, it is important to keep the exact same structure on ftp, or your pages will be missing graphics and links wont work. Same goes if not automatically created - whatever folder structure you use, you need to repeat on the ftp site.
If you are using folders within folders while building the site, the same applies. So for example if I had a gallery folder, with an album1 folder in that, and then an index.htm file in that, the url would then be www.website.com.au/gallery/album1/ or if I had a file named new.htm it would be www.website.com.au/gallery/album1/new.htm
Hope that helps mate. If you need any further detail or help just ask here or pm me if you want.
btw, it looks like your host is using cpanel as the control panel (which you should have login info for) - this is where you would setup stuff like email addresses, extra ftp users/passwords and a heap of other stuff you may not need at this stage. Should stuff like usage stats for your site too. By default none of that should really affect whether you're site will work or not, as far as I know, so it should work straight off just using ftp. Just be careful if messing around with stuff you don't know what it is in cpanel (like installing scripts and stuff) - that will probably mess up your site, but yeah by default none of that should be in use.
Alrighty, thanks heaps!!
Will get back to you when I've had a play around. Got exams over the next week so I'm trying to focus on those instead. But thanks anyway.
Will get back to you when I've had a play around. Got exams over the next week so I'm trying to focus on those instead.
But thanks anyway.Similar threads
