How important is Caff

[rand corp]

Bux post match press conference - he speaks about Caff and the tagging role and gives some very good insight

 

[belzor]

Every team needs a tagger. Get ready for the McCaffer hate though!! He did well last night

 

[Bring_Back_Brad]

Did you guys think that all that manhandling was fair?
I have no issues with tagging but McCaffer got away with a lot of holding that could have easily gone against him.

It's not about the individual but about the game.
He got away for it and it may just have been deemed to have been fair, but god, it's ugly.

When he was tagging last year, I don't recall him using these kind of tagging tactics. he was more so playing a tight 1on1, and concentrating on negating his opponent rather than getting his own ball. I prefer that approach. I don't like tagging when it devolves to being constantly irritating and illegally obstructing champion players, even if it's in our favour. We certainly don't like it when it's done to us.

 

[loki04]

When he was tagging last year, I don't recall him using these kind of tagging tactics. he was more so playing a tight 1on1, and concentrating on negating his opponent rather than getting his own ball. I prefer that approach. I don't like tagging when it devolves to being constantly irritating and illegally obstructing champion players, even if it's in our favour. We certainly don't like it when it's done to us.

I don't have a problem with Crowley doing it to Pendles the best players and teams find a way to work through it.

In fact I enjoy watching Crowley go about his craft.

 

[Shaneprice97]

When he was tagging last year, I don't recall him using these kind of tagging tactics. he was more so playing a tight 1on1, and concentrating on negating his opponent rather than getting his own ball. I prefer that approach. I don't like tagging when it devolves to being constantly irritating and illegally obstructing champion players, even if it's in our favour. We certainly don't like it when it's done to us.

It might have had to be done on Cotchin to effectively keep him below 15 disposals, the same goes for Pendlebury and Ablett. I doubt Macaffer will have the same approach every week, this might have been his trump card. He went about his tag the same way against Jack how he usually does, same with SJ.
Whether or not you want Macaffer to tag a certain way, this is his job and his way to support his future family, and keeping All Australians and elite midfielders to minimal impact is his job.

 

[loki04]

I hope like shit Caffe keeps employing the same tactics or similar every week he is out there! Ignore the ***** in the media and continue to make us pie supporters proud mate we have ya back!

 

[HappyRed]

I was watching Caff from the 1st QTR to the end. He was amazing. It was like watching Crowley on Selwood last year. The frustration was driving him nuts. It was a fantastic game, and we will now have a very powerful tool to keep those who cause us headaches in check.

To the carlton supporter who posted. I'm sorry dude.. Have you EVER watched Crowley play?
(An amazing player, and truly hated by many)

 

[piedpiper32]

Every team needs a tagger. Get ready for the McCaffer hate though!! He did well last night

With taggers the level of hate can be correlated to how well they're going so I hope he cops plenty of it from the opposition. Means he's claiming more scalps. Besides he'll be getting the love from us Pies fans which is all that matters

 

[Maggie5]

 

[davywap]

Hayden Kennedy you piece of shit. This from last week:
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...ods-travis-cloke/story-fni5f6hd-1226878058132
And a 180 this week:
http://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/af...res-a-clear-hold/story-fniv6drm-1226881756376

Suk a dik Kennedy, you are already looking worse than the Giesh.

 

[TradeDraft]

Hayden Kennedy you piece of shit. This from last week:
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...ods-travis-cloke/story-fni5f6hd-1226878058132
And a 180 this week:
http://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/af...res-a-clear-hold/story-fniv6drm-1226881756376

Suk a dik Kennedy, you are already looking worse than the Giesh.

Just shows the Anti-Collingwood Stance the ***** at the AFL Have

 

[Bring_Back_Brad]

It might have had to be done on Cotchin to effectively keep him below 15 disposals, the same goes for Pendlebury and Ablett. I doubt Macaffer will have the same approach every week, this might have been his trump card. He went about his tag the same way against Jack how he usually does, same with SJ.
Whether or not you want Macaffer to tag a certain way, this is his job and his way to support his future family, and keeping All Australians and elite midfielders to minimal impact is his job.

Sure negating players is his job but it has to be done legally. I'm not in to cheating to win. That is the Selwood way, the Carlton way, the a Essendon way, not the collingwood way.
We can win by being the best team, and Caff can be a great shut down player without bringing the quality of the game down. Tagging like that is shitty football and I don't like to see it at our club.

 

[SuperSub17]

The crying about Caff is ridiculous. The AFL coming out today and saying what they did is just outrageous considering their stance last week.

Hayden Kennedy was not a good umpire though so not overly surprising...I remember him costing us a game against North in 2008

 

[bucksisbest]

The crying about Caff is ridiculous. The AFL coming out today and saying what they did is just outrageous considering their stance last week.

Hayden Kennedy was not a good umpire though so not overly surprising...I remember him costing us a game against North in 2008

His opinion about what he does and doesn't like is irrelevant, just an unprofessional thing to say.

 

[bazzadog]

I agree it happens to ever player eg griffen its not only cotchin. You dont see griffen having sook every match unlike cotchin who gets a free kick every time hes gets touched. Looks like caffa going to turn out to be a good tagger. Good win against the pretenders love how their 14th ahahaha

 

[The Royal Sampler]

His opinion about what he does and doesn't like is irrelevant, just an unprofessional thing to say.

Storm in a teacup really. He was asked a direct question about whether he liked what he saw. He said "no, and that from an umpiring perspective". Which shouldn't surprise anyone given MacAffer gave away five frees to Cotchin. The umpires on the night didn't like what they saw either.

 

[Quicky]

Did you guys think that all that manhandling was fair?
I have no issues with tagging but McCaffer got away with a lot of holding that could have easily gone against him.

It's not about the individual but about the game.
He got away for it and it may just have been deemed to have been fair, but god, it's ugly.

There is technique in everything that you do in footy.

If you are fielding a ground ball you get square, keep your body behind it, keep your eye on the ball and attack it with both hands.

If you are a forward, you fight for front position, you try to protect the drop of the ball and own that area. If at all possible you will attack that ball hard and try to mark that ball at it's highest point, arms at almost full stretch, feet on the ground if possible, fingers pointed to the sky.

This is also true of taggers. Your body positioning is paramount. Blocking your opponent from the dangerous areas by positioning yourself correctly. Keeping touch enough to harangue your opponent without conceding holding frees. It is a fair and in your face art form that requires an enormous amount of technique, finesse and concentration. It's not given enough credit and it should be respected.

I don't see anything at all wrong with Macaffers game last night. The commentators have a lot to answer for in making such a big deal out of it.

 

[MeisterBot]

Caff's tactics against Cotchin aren't too much different to what he normally does. The new thing was how he corralled Cotchin using his arms kind of like a shepherd. It was probably a way for Caff to handle players who are strong enough to go 1v1 with him and then burn him off with pace by controlling their run. Think it was sparked by how Griffen torched him last year.

The fact that no Richmond players remonstrated with Caff or flew the flag was telling. If Caff got knocked on his ass, he would've been less aggressive with his tag. Negating players push the boundaries, we see it all the time with Cloke and defenders. Gun players like Pendles, Ablett, etc deal with the hard tag every week. The ability to beat tags or contribute while tagged is what separates the good from the elite. Cotchin should've run harder, or drifted forward and put Caff on the back foot.

When Macaffer went too far, he was penalised. That's fine. But I don't get the outrage. Macaffer was pretty light on the physical end of the scale. He got into Cotchin's head and held on a little, but the way some are carrying on, you'd think he was Stevie Baker II with sharpened studs and lowering knees at the contest. Get a grip, people!

 

[Old Spice]

I reckon he will get extra attention from the umpires next week. If Hayden Kennedy is the umpires head or whatever his title is, then I reckon there will be instructions given to look out for him. It'll be like a reverse Selwood situation.

 

[SuperSub17]

As a matter of interest, who does he go to next week? Ziebell?

 

[Damon_3388]

As a matter of interest, who does he go to next week? Ziebell?

Stick him on Brent Harvey just for the lulz.

 

[MeisterBot]

The stuff I see on the Main Board about Caff facing Cotchin instead of the play annoys me. It's something that every tagger does and something that Caff has been doing every week since he started tagging. You can't lose touch or sight with your opponent and you can't play from behind as a tagger in the midfield.

It's a pretty weak argument to be making. I can certainly sympathise with those saying Caff's tagging job looked ugly (because it did), and those saying that scragging ought to be more scrutinised (because it should, Cloke would certainly snag a few every week if it was consistent), but minding your opponent at a stoppage because your job is to negate their influence is a bad thing? Are all players mandated to ball watch at a stoppage now?

 

[piedpiper32]

As a matter of interest, who does he go to next week? Ziebell?

Handcaff Nick Dal Santo. NDS is important for North and could really cut us up.
But Caff already owned him last year in Rd 6 and that was really when his role as a tagger started to take off. Expect him to be able to do it again

 

[Tippy78]

There is technique in everything that you do in footy.

If you are fielding a ground ball you get square, keep your body behind it, keep your eye on the ball and attack it with both hands.

If you are a forward, you fight for front position, you try to protect the drop of the ball and own that area. If at all possible you will attack that ball hard and try to mark that ball at it's highest point, arms at almost full stretch, feet on the ground if possible, fingers pointed to the sky.

This is also true of taggers. Your body positioning is paramount. Blocking your opponent from the dangerous areas by positioning yourself correctly. Keeping touch enough to harangue your opponent without conceding holding frees. It is a fair and in your face art form that requires an enormous amount of technique, finesse and concentration. It's not given enough credit and it should be respected.

I don't see anything at all wrong with Macaffers game last night. The commentators have a lot to answer for in making such a big deal out of it.

I couldn't believe how much the commentators went on about it. They blew it way out of proportion

 

[Rohan25]

Jeez, after the ridicule the club and coach received after the Gold Coast game last year I thought the media would be lining up to congratulate Bucks for developing a tagger.......it was their own suggestion after all!

Oh well, if Kennedy's comments are anything to go by, we can now expect Caff to be pinged whenever he gets within a metre of his target next week. Let's gear up now for a record amount of frees against next week.