How Sad it is

[Bucketeer]

just wanted to write and say how disapointed i have become after reading some of the posts on this forum. i can believe how many band wagon supporters this club has. for a club that has always been so proud of its loyal supporters i find it most disapointing to see how many of these "loyal" supporters are so fast to turn around and throw the knife into choco the club and players. lets not forget that it was not long ago that we were 1 of the bench mark teams and choco was god. and where is the other benchmark team from this period? Brisbane are also strugling at the moment and i dont see their supporters jumping of the bandwagon. this i believe is because just like the REAL port supporters they can obviously see that their club is rebuildin after a very succesful period just as we are now.

so if you are a real port supporter cut out all the crap and support our great club and coach instead of bagging them. get behind choco and the boys cause these are the times when the clubs supporters matter most. i you want to keep heaping crap on choco and the boys - please do us all a favour and stop calling youself a port suporter, you will fit in beter with the crows mob.

 

[Portmanteau]

I suggest you read the Port Adelaide ethos.

 

[Paralowiepower]

Someone from the club??
No seriously I'm not one to bag our club or players, but part of our success is due to our passion and our supporters have never accepted second best and nor they should.

I go back to the club win, lose or draw and I'm sorry but I wont sing the club song after a loss, and I wont make out Im happy with what is happening on the park atm.

 

[relapse]

just wanted to write and say how disapointed i have become after reading some of the posts on this forum. i can believe how many band wagon supporters this club has. for a club that has always been so proud of its loyal supporters i find it most disapointing to see how many of these "loyal" supporters are so fast to turn around and throw the knife into choco the club and players. lets not forget that it was not long ago that we were 1 of the bench mark teams and choco was god. and where is the other benchmark team from this period? Brisbane are also strugling at the moment and i dont see their supporters jumping of the bandwagon. this i believe is because just like the REAL port supporters they can obviously see that their club is rebuildin after a very succesful period just as we are now.

so if you are a real port supporter cut out all the crap and support our great club and coach instead of bagging them. get behind choco and the boys cause these are the times when the clubs supporters matter most. i you want to keep heaping crap on choco and the boys - please do us all a favour and stop calling youself a port suporter, you will fit in beter with the crows mob.

I dont know if you can comprehend this or not, but Port havent really been in this situation before. I remember there being a lot of unrest when Russell Ebert was coach. Other than that Port have been very successful and never really been in this position before (during modern day football). So its a bit rich to to say "its not Port Adelaide" blah blah blah when there hasnt really been a precident in modern day football for Port Adelaide to base this belief on. Dont put your head in the sand and pretend that you dont have supporters that turn negative when things go bad. Face it every club has them Port Adelaide included !!!! I am not even going to get into a debate about supporters of both teams.

As for your point about Brisbane supporters, their circumstances are slightly different to Port. Matthews delivered 3 flags whereas many Port supporters consider chocko (while he did win 1 flag) underachieved during Port's dominant period. Chocko in my opinion isnt in the same league as Matthews (4 flags) and understandably the Brisbane supporters would be totally supportive of Matthews considering the success he has brought to the club.

Anyway its not a troll just my 2 cents.

I also believe that supporters have a right to voice their concerns and not sit there like sheep believing whatever the club feeds to them.

 

[Andre]

What Bresh said.
Plus Bucketeer you seem to be confusing supporting the club with blind faith. On this forum we are straight to the point by and large. If the team plays like crap or the coaching/gameplan is crap we'll say so. If it's good we'll praise it. Burying our heads in the sand and saying 'Port is always right, don't worry' isn't going to help.

Most here (that live in SA) will continue to inflict pain on themselves by going along to matches - that's not bandwagon supporting.

 

[Bucketeer]

I suggest you read the Port Adelaide ethos.

i have and i know that the PAFC exist to win premierships but at the same time realise that it is totaly unrealistic to expect them to win every year - it just isnt possible. duringthese lean years the club needs its supporters more then ever

 

[Portmanteau]

i have and i know that the PAFC exist to win premierships but at the same time realise that it is totaly unrealistic to expect them to win every year - it just isnt possible. duringthese lean years the club needs its supporters more then ever

I suggest you read it... again.

 

[Macca19]

There is nothing wrong with criticism. Some people go overboard, myself included. No need to call us bandwagon supporters. I dont think anybody expects us to win the flag every year. What we do expect is a red hot go every week and at the moment a lot of us dont feel like that is happening.

 

[jasnik]

I dont know if you can comprehend this or not, but Port havent really been in this situation before. I remember there being a lot of unrest when Russell Ebert was coach. Other than that Port have been very successful and never really been in this position before (during modern day football). So its a bit rich to to say "its not Port Adelaide" blah blah blah when there hasnt really been a precident in modern day football for Port Adelaide to base this belief on. .

Good call. But it really shouldn't come as a surprise to many people that we're hitting a trough right now. We peaked 6-8 years after entering the AFL - same as the Crows did, same as West Coast, same as Brisbane after they 'merged' with Fitzroy. Freo being Freo and the Old Brisbane Bears have been the only new clubs to not hit their stride in this timeframe.

The whole comp is geared towards not letting any one team stay on top for too long. The key is to see the trough coming and to prepare for it, minimising the impact (though possibly not too much because if you don't go too low you can't get the draft picks that will help you compete for the flag when you next 'peak').

I think what a lot of people here don't like is that our ageing list has been an obvious cause for concern for the past 3 years, with the only answer to blood our youngsters and let them get 40-60 games under their belts to see if they are up to AFL standard. From early last year up to this week it seemed like Choco didn't want to take this path. Now we're stuck with a number of old and infirm senior players, youngsters who don't have enough game time to compete at the top level and others in the middle that are going through a form slump. Triple whammy + gameplan that doesn't seem to work = 15th place.

People will bitch and moan on here about the coach and the form of some players, but we still go along each week and barrack our heart out for Port.

 

[Eddie Woloschek]

i have and i know that the PAFC exist to win premierships but at the same time realise that it is totaly unrealistic to expect them to win every year - it just isnt possible. duringthese lean years the club needs its supporters more then ever

We are angry, we demand change, we seek results, we voice our opinion. But we do not walk away. Our club, right or wrong. (And it we'd prefer it was right.)

 

[Portia]

Carlton has shown what happens to clubs who don't remain vigilant.

 

[PJ Power]

As I've said elsewhere - it is about supporting the club, not an individual coach, player, person involved, but the whole club.

What has happened to the club in the last 18 months is not in its best interests. Those of us who are passionate want to see it get better quickly, because we can't stand the pain of seeing it struggle so much.

My week still largely revolves around the footy as embarrassed as I am to say it - my mood for the start of the week is determined by how we go as a club on the weekend.
I didn't realise being a bandwagon supporter as you suggest many of us are, would involve so much emotion and pain when we lose.



I support Port Adelaide. I want us to be the best. Pre- Fos Williams we didn't exist to win premierships every year. He had the foresight to take us above the level of the rest of the competition. I don't buy that we have to be just like the other AFL clubs and wait our 5-10 year period to win the next flag. I expect us to be made up of people, unique people who will find ways to get to the top and stay there.

 

[Jabsy]

I think if you were directing your post at "bandwagoners" then it was a waste of the internet, as they would have all jumped ship ages ago. I dont expect you'd find many bandwagoners still here after last years results, and the tri-colours success so far this year.

 

[Capital Power]

Don't see too many bandwagoners here. I see a bunch of supporters who travel interstate (and even internationally) to see their team whenever they can; who sell raffle tickets to raise money for the Club; who spend their hard earned to benefit the Club whenever they can; etc etc

I can't go to the pub after a game and discuss the finer points with experts like I can here (firstly there aren't any pubs in Canberra and there certainly aren't many experts - in anything, let alone footy). So, this makes do. If my team plays crap then I have no problems saying so, or even arguing the point. Nor does the team (see this week's Josh Mahoney column on the website).

I'll be back for more next week. Like everyone else here. The only bandwagoners are all those coming out of the woodwork to gleefully tell me how crap we are. Memo to you all. We may be playing crap at the moment but we are Port Adelaide and we'll be back. Starting Sunday

 

[*PAF]

I think if you were directing your post at "bandwagoners" then it was a waste of the internet, as they would have all jumped ship ages ago. I dont expect you'd find many bandwagoners still here after last years results, and the tri-colours success so far this year.

Go The C....

Sorry about that, I'll try again.
Go The C....

*clears throat*
Go The Mighty C.....

Sorry, but the only other letters that are trying to come out after the C shouldn't be posted on a public forum.


Nah, only joking, they are but one of 15 other teams.

 

[Capital Power]

I dont think anybody expects us to win the flag every year

PS .. Macca, not sure I've ever disagreed with you before

 

[Powerstufff]

......My week still largely revolves around the footy as embarrassed as I am to say it - my mood for the start of the week is determined by how we go as a club on the weekend.
I didn't realise being a bandwagon supporter as you suggest many of us are, would involve so much emotion and pain when we lose......

Me too. If you want to see some AA type confessions from other 'band-wagoners' here was a fun thread from 2004. Perhaps start a 2006 Port version?
The funny thing is that when your club is cruising you are too busy worrying about the next game or the finals to feel content/happy.

 

[Malibu#27]

Gotta agree with Buckets and Macca to a degree that sometimes we too easily going overboard.

That being said - there's been times when the standard hasn't been up to scratch.... however whenever we have a dissapointing game (of which I expect this season to be very up and down from here on in) I dont see the point of coming on here and calling for the coaches head.

 

[Capital Power]

Go The C....

Sorry about that, I'll try again.
Go The C....

*clears throat*
Go The Mighty C.....

*PAF, my son will be around with his swear jar shortly for your contribution. Even the footy heathens at our place have learned to refer to "black raven-like birds"....

 

[Mr Magoo]

just wanted to write and say how disapointed i have become after reading some of the posts on this forum. i can believe how many band wagon supporters this club has. for a club that has always been so proud of its loyal supporters i find it most disapointing to see how many of these "loyal" supporters are so fast to turn around and throw the knife into choco the club and players. lets not forget that it was not long ago that we were 1 of the bench mark teams and choco was god. and where is the other benchmark team from this period? Brisbane are also strugling at the moment and i dont see their supporters jumping of the bandwagon. this i believe is because just like the REAL port supporters they can obviously see that their club is rebuildin after a very succesful period just as we are now.

so if you are a real port supporter cut out all the crap and support our great club and coach instead of bagging them. get behind choco and the boys cause these are the times when the clubs supporters matter most. i you want to keep heaping crap on choco and the boys - please do us all a favour and stop calling youself a port suporter, you will fit in beter with the crows mob.

At the moment i would like the Port bandwagon to be going in any direction at the moment but i would prefer it to go forward thanks as we seem to be stuck in neutral.
If a player plays like crap then i'm not going to say to him 'Great game well done' & then slap him on the back. I've never called for chocco's head & never will as while he's the coach he's got my full support but if you can't stand a little bit of constructive critiscm then get out of the kitchen.
As for the players well i believe that they are paid a very good wage in fact too well, as they have lost sight of what it means to be playing for the jumper. If they were employed in a normal job then do you think that their boss would be happy when they slack off?

I will be at the game this week come rain, hail or sunshine & i will be at every home game & a few interstate ones as well as long as funds are sufficent.

If we are rebuilding as you say then why are players that are nearly or over 30 years of age still in the side? ... Darryl Wakelin, Brendon Lade are excused here.

If the players give it their best shot during a game & still come up short then i'll be proud of the way they played, as an example see heritage game vs AFC last year, but when the players can't even be bothered doing the basics of football such as man up, chase, tackle etc. then i feel i should be able to offer some critiscm of the way they played after all football is not a hard game to play.

 

[Powerstufff]

.....If the players give it their best shot during a game & still come up short then i'll be proud of the way they played, as an example see heritage game vs AFC last year, but when the players can't even be bothered doing the basics of football such as man up, chase, tackle etc. then i feel i should be able to offer some critiscm of the way they played after all football is not a hard game to play.

What he said. Sunday's loss wasn't so important in itself it's the way we lost and all that implies.

 

[*PAF]

I love Choco's every tactical move and player selection he has ever done.

There, am I a true Port Adelaide supporter now?

 

[*PAF]

Now THIS is sad.



Port on wrong side of records

16may06

PORT Adelaide was on the wrong end of two all-time stats records against the Western Bulldogs on Sunday. And they raise serious questions about the Power's lack of accountability.

Not only did the Dogs have a record amount of handballs in their 76-point demolition job, they set a new benchmark for running bounces. In a performance which looked like circle-work at times, the Bulldogs found time and space to have a staggering 213 handballs - 22 more than the previous record set by the all-conquering Carlton team of 1995.
Rodney Eade's outfit also had 52 running bounces, eclipsing the record of 48 set by the Kangaroos in 2001. The Dogs' total disposal count of 421 was the second highest since the AFL started officially keeping stats in 1993. The Crows still hold the record with a massive 431 against Richmond at AAMI Stadium in '93.

 

[*PAF]

*PAF, my son will be around with his swear jar shortly for your contribution. Even the footy heathens at our place have learned to refer to "black raven-like birds"....

Hehe.
I'll have to teach that one to my kids as well.

 

[Santos L Helper]

Yay, I love my team losing and I love Choco because he's an inovator.

This thread is worse than ANY that criticise what is obviously going wrong. You need to understand the meaning of 'bandwagon' supporters before you bandy the word about.