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Best part is that they could have and should have drafted him.
A reach for us sure, but a club that was (and still is) crying out for homegrown KPFs should have taken the reigning Larke Medalist West Aussie KPF.
Naughton as well yeah but that is a whole different level of ridicule.
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Not even sure why Allen was ever considered a reach, he was a couple of cm undersized at draft time (Still Darling height), dominated u18s and won the larke medal, always looked like he had all the tools to succeed. Was always going to be elite.
But if you rate a guy then you just get the guy you want when you can. Not picking a guy you want because other teams don't rate him that highly and is considered a "reach" is just bad drafting imo
Oscar's clearly shown hes a top 5 pick from that draft. Whether Freo rated him that highly is another question. We clearly didn't as we passed on him with our first. Imagine if another team had jumped in before our 2nd?
Kelly and Ryan were both considered "reaches" in that same draft
**possibly not the thread for my inane draft ramblings**
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Has really long arms also
There surely would have been potential to trade down from 5 to something mid-teens (they couldn't have anticipated Allen sliding to 20, but he was unlikely to go before 15). Would have been able to get 2 picks in that range for pick 5 (so possibly ended up with Brander and Allen in an alternate universe).
2017 draft redone - we got picks 1 3 and 5 !!!
Re-ranking and building a best 22 from the 2017 National Draft
The 2017 National Draft is emerging this year.www.sen.com.au
Top end of that re-draft is stacked with WA talent
Feels like Mihocek's been around a lot longer than he has.
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thats because he is already 28. Had an immediate impact as a mature draftee
Jack Darling the only KPF at that height tbf.
**** that 22 is top 4 material2017 draft redone - we got picks 1 3 and 5 !!!
Re-ranking and building a best 22 from the 2017 National Draft
The 2017 National Draft is emerging this year.
IMO us punters donāt know how tall Allen was at draft time. We were just going off the media profiles, all of which seemed to be different. I doubt he shot up that much in his first year at the club.
Clubs would have known he was KPF height at draft time
Simmo on 3aw yesterday. Interestingly hes re-signed till to the end of 2024
Also loved "the AFLs pretty Melbourne centric, don't know if you've noticed"
2017 draft redone - we got picks 1 3 and 5 !!!
Re-ranking and building a best 22 from the 2017 National Draft
The 2017 National Draft is emerging this year.
Really should have 3 of the top 4 imo.
Noah Balta is good, but I'd have Flyin' before him.
Pretty sure Balta won Richmond's BnF last year, no mean feat.
2017 draft redone - we got picks 1 3 and 5 !!!
Re-ranking and building a best 22 from the 2017 National Draft
The 2017 National Draft is emerging this year.
3 & 5 not worth 2nd rounders if I remember the general consensus on here
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3 & 5 not worth 2nd rounders if I remember the general consensus on here
And 1 should have been a midfielder.
Nah, Short won it
Ah that's right.
Would've been long odds on that happening...
Can we call it official gang?
We broke the Pies.
Here's an excerpt.
Who killed Collingwood: Inside the chain reaction that toppled the Magpies empire
THE UNRAVELLING OF COLLINGWOOD began in the days after West Coast star Dom Sheed broke a million Magpie hearts with a stunning set-shot goal in the dying minutes of the 2018 grand final.
Stories rage about who is to blame for the Piesā salary cap shemozzle, but in the weeks after that grand final loss, the decision to lure 2010 premiership hero Dayne Beams back from Brisbane on a bumper four-year, $2 million deal in exchange for two first-round picks proved one of the clubās big missteps.
Other deals signed in the years leading up to the 2018 grand final, and shortly after, also tilted the scales of the clubās salary cap to the dangerously upper levels of the limit ā without going over.
The Beams deal started with a phone call from the player to the club.
As the Lions captain, he had weeks earlier pledged his support to Brisbane at the clubās best and fairest count.
But following the death of his father a year earlier ā being closer to him had been one of the reasons why he returned to Queensland in 2015 ā he resolved to come back to Collingwood.
A number of his former teammates urged the Magpies to make it happen, thinking he could make the difference in 2019. He didnāt.
Beams, played just nine more games in black and white before his premature retirement, pocketed an undisclosed settlement included in the salary cap because of an ongoing battle with mental health.
The plot thickened this week when Beams made the extraordinary claim on SEN that his contract had been resolved outside the salary cap.
Magpies great Tony Shaw says the Sheed goal was the sliding doors moment that cruelled his club.
āIf Collingwood had won the 2018 grand final, Iām telling you, unless they wanted to leave of their own volition, there is no way known that they (McGuire, Buckley and Guy) wouldnāt be there,ā Shaw says.
āThe fine line is incredible. Youāre only two minutes away from winning a premiership, and you wouldnāt be having these issues now ā but thatās footy.
āThe āDo Betterā report might still have raised its head but you wouldnāt be worried about the board and a lot of things, but thatās what happens when you win and lose.
āEverything that came to a head over the off-season was probably just too much. Can Nathan Buckley coach? Of course he can coach, but it just builds and builds and builds.
āItās a bloody cruel industry.ā
We broke the Pies.
Here's an excerpt.
Who killed Collingwood: Inside the chain reaction that toppled the Magpies empire
THE UNRAVELLING OF COLLINGWOOD began in the days after West Coast star Dom Sheed broke a million Magpie hearts with a stunning set-shot goal in the dying minutes of the 2018 grand final.
Stories rage about who is to blame for the Piesā salary cap shemozzle, but in the weeks after that grand final loss, the decision to lure 2010 premiership hero Dayne Beams back from Brisbane on a bumper four-year, $2 million deal in exchange for two first-round picks proved one of the clubās big missteps.
Other deals signed in the years leading up to the 2018 grand final, and shortly after, also tilted the scales of the clubās salary cap to the dangerously upper levels of the limit ā without going over.
The Beams deal started with a phone call from the player to the club.
As the Lions captain, he had weeks earlier pledged his support to Brisbane at the clubās best and fairest count.
But following the death of his father a year earlier ā being closer to him had been one of the reasons why he returned to Queensland in 2015 ā he resolved to come back to Collingwood.
A number of his former teammates urged the Magpies to make it happen, thinking he could make the difference in 2019. He didnāt.
Beams, played just nine more games in black and white before his premature retirement, pocketed an undisclosed settlement included in the salary cap because of an ongoing battle with mental health.
The plot thickened this week when Beams made the extraordinary claim on SEN that his contract had been resolved outside the salary cap.
Magpies great Tony Shaw says the Sheed goal was the sliding doors moment that cruelled his club.
āIf Collingwood had won the 2018 grand final, Iām telling you, unless they wanted to leave of their own volition, there is no way known that they (McGuire, Buckley and Guy) wouldnāt be there,ā Shaw says.
āThe fine line is incredible. Youāre only two minutes away from winning a premiership, and you wouldnāt be having these issues now ā but thatās footy.
āThe āDo Betterā report might still have raised its head but you wouldnāt be worried about the board and a lot of things, but thatās what happens when you win and lose.
āEverything that came to a head over the off-season was probably just too much. Can Nathan Buckley coach? Of course he can coach, but it just builds and builds and builds.
āItās a bloody cruel industry.ā
