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[Goroyals22]

This has put me off watching it. Even his input in the Coast to Coast pod makes me cringe.

Gossage is good value and doesn’t take himself to seriously… he also would be the best we could get… he certainly is better than fools in the wa media like langdon, suma and jakovich..I mean Karl( i go fo North not the eagles ) Langdon called Kennedys match winner a Banana..


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[Schmedit]

Gossage is good value and doesn’t take himself to seriously… he also would be the best we could get… he certainly is better than fools in the wa media like langdon, suma and jakovich..I mean Karl( i go fo North not the eagles ) Langdon called Kennedys match winner a Banana..


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We have Travis King on the payroll? To just ask questions for post match player interviews is a waste imo, especially when coast to coast was at its best when he was hosting it with schoey. Less Gossage, more King.

 

[Wadsworth]

However, there comes a point where you cannot remove all injuries to the head without irrevocably changing the fabric of the game and we are rapidly approaching that point.

If you start punishing players for playing the ball, and incidentally injuring another player in the process then you may as well do away with all physical contact because that's where that slope ends.

People get hurt playing AFL, it's a sad reality but it is the reality.

I really respect the point that you're making - but to quote Voltaire "don't let perfection be the enemy of good". I agree that we can't take all collisions or all collision injuries out of the game, but that doesn't mean we can't reduce the risk of them.

A few years ago, sliding into a contest feet first was outlawed due to it's risk of causing injury. It didn't eliminate it, but it reduced a risk. People sliding in with their feet were still going for the ball - but in what was deemed to be an unacceptably reckless play. And the risk of injury seems much less significant that the issue with head knocks.

I genuinely don't know where the right answers lie. Perhaps we find that Venables' injury was completely unavoidable and that is a genuine risk that players must accept. But perhaps there are 20% of head collisions that are deemed avoidable. Perhaps under the current rules, McKay's actions were completely legal. But does the fabric of the game really die if we take a dozen contest out of each game with a rule tweak? And I even cringe at myself for saying that. I'm constantly frustrated by the tinkering of rules by the AFL, but this is an area where I think it is worthwhile.

 

[Bender_]

I really respect the point that you're making - but to quote Voltaire "don't let perfection be the enemy of good". I agree that we can't take all collisions or all collision injuries out of the game, but that doesn't mean we can't reduce the risk of them.

A few years ago, sliding into a contest feet first was outlawed due to it's risk of causing injury. It didn't eliminate it, but it reduced a risk. People sliding in with their feet were still going for the ball - but in what was deemed to be an unacceptably reckless play. And the risk of injury seems much less significant that the issue with head knocks.

I genuinely don't know where the right answers lie. Perhaps we find that Venables' injury was completely unavoidable and that is a genuine risk that players must accept. But perhaps there are 20% of head collisions that are deemed avoidable. Perhaps under the current rules, McKay's actions were completely legal. But does the fabric of the game really die if we take a dozen contest out of each game with a rule tweak? And I even cringe at myself for saying that. I'm constantly frustrated by the tinkering of rules by the AFL, but this is an area where I think it is worthwhile.

Was Voltaire that guy that (kid) Tom Hanks used to wish he was big?

 

[Wadsworth]

Was Voltaire that guy that (kid) Tom Hanks used to wish he was big?

It would have been much better if I'd incorrectly attributed the quote to Zoltar instead of Voltaire. Misquotes are one of my favourite past times too, so I really missed an opportunity. As Ghandi often used to say, "Up the bloody Coasters"!

 

[tigger_ferret]

I think Kingy made a reasonable point that it's more about coaching. Mackay came in from a long way to contest the ball, but he could have pulled up & gone for a tackle instead.

It's really difficult one though because it was a great contest & fair imo.
But after watching DV's video it's clear the long lasting impact of concussions truly are brutal.

If a tackle was reward when players dispose of the ball incorrectly, I think more players would consider allowing a player to collect the ball and then apply a tackle.

The problem with this is being second to the ball could become the better option, which wouldn’t be a good thing.

No easy answers on this one unfortunately.

 

[Bender_]

It would have been much better if I'd incorrectly attributed the quote to Zoltar instead of Voltaire. Misquotes are one of my favourite past times too, so I really missed an opportunity. As Ghandi often used to say, "Up the bloody Coasters"!

Think it's more a reflection of me that I went there!

 

[bombard]

Was Voltaire that guy that (kid) Tom Hanks used to wish he was big?

No that was Voltaren, idiot.

 

[kane249]

Was Voltaire that guy that (kid) Tom Hanks used to wish he was big?

No that was Voltaren, idiot.

No you are both thinking of the 5 lions that formed the giant robot

 

[Bender_]

No you are both thinking of the 5 lions that formed the giant robot

By the power of grey skull!

amirite?

 

[Godfather32]

By the power of grey skull!

amirite?

OMG the new one on Netflix looks awesome

 

[Matera92]

I really respect the point that you're making - but to quote Voltaire "don't let perfection be the enemy of good". I agree that we can't take all collisions or all collision injuries out of the game, but that doesn't mean we can't reduce the risk of them.

A few years ago, sliding into a contest feet first was outlawed due to it's risk of causing injury. It didn't eliminate it, but it reduced a risk. People sliding in with their feet were still going for the ball - but in what was deemed to be an unacceptably reckless play. And the risk of injury seems much less significant that the issue with head knocks.

I genuinely don't know where the right answers lie. Perhaps we find that Venables' injury was completely unavoidable and that is a genuine risk that players must accept. But perhaps there are 20% of head collisions that are deemed avoidable. Perhaps under the current rules, McKay's actions were completely legal. But does the fabric of the game really die if we take a dozen contest out of each game with a rule tweak? And I even cringe at myself for saying that. I'm constantly frustrated by the tinkering of rules by the AFL, but this is an area where I think it is worthwhile.

If McKay doesn't attack that contest however he's seen as lazy/uncommitted and then questioned by commentators/players/coaches as to his character, potentially is dropped, maybe doesn't force his way back into the team and suddenly he's delisted end of season and is unemployed.

Extreme? Yes but we're talking about a game that is won and lost in these moment to moment decisions that players are asked to make a hundred times a game.

In the AFL's quest to speed the game up, they've created this monster where more players are hitting each other harder and at more pace than ever before because that is what is demanded from them. For the AFL to now turn around and punish the players for displaying the spectacle they pig headedly pushed towards is lunacy and hypocrisy at its finest.

Do we now take high marking out of the game due to the risk of a player falling ala Oscar Allen and concussing themselves? Or what if Oscar knees a bloke in the back of the head and concusses him while taking a hanger?

Do we rule out players smothering due to the risk of a player copping a falcon and being concussed (I've seen it happen)?

I'm all for taking the malicious actions out of the game, however the moment you start punishing the players for following the rules, you may as well pack up the whole thing.

 

[Keys]

Bit of love for Harry and our ability to recruit defenders with lowish picks and develop them into our system



Does ignore that Hurn, Duggan and Sheppard were all first rounders

 

[ziad]

Bit of love for Harry and our ability to recruit defenders with lowish picks and develop them into our system



Does ignore that Hurn, Duggan and Sheppard were all first rounders

Good stuff

 

[FKASC]

Bit of love for Harry and our ability to recruit defenders with lowish picks and develop them into our system



Does ignore that Hurn, Duggan and Sheppard were all first rounders

Forgot goat Johnson too as another late pick

 

[squashface]

Forgot goat Johnson too as another late pick

And 'Hurn replacement' Blayne Wilson

 

[FKASC]

And 'Hurn replacement' Blayne Wilson

 

[Chris_6678]

Schoeys new episode is a must. He goes to town on Tom Morris who wrote an article on how the Eagles position at the end of the year ( 2018 ) flattered them and they were making numbers up and were going to get rolled in the finals. Sounds like they used that article as motivation. 3 days during their bender from the GF Schoey sent a photo of him with the cup and medal and cropped his head out and sent it to his Tom Morris's private number saying how's this win big fella.

 

[UseR2006]

Schoeys new episode is a must. He goes to town on Tom Morris who wrote an article on how the Eagles position at the end of the year ( 2018 ) flattered them and they were making numbers up and were going to get rolled in the finals. Sounds like they used that article as motivation. 3 days during their bender from the GF Schoey sent a photo of him with the cup and medal and cropped his head out and sent it to his Tom Morris's private number saying how's this win big fella.

Would it kill you to link it? Please

 

[Chris_6678]

Would it kill you to link it? Please

Back Chat 2.0 | Linktree

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Episode 5 around 28mins in.

That link just send you to the many options to listen to it.

 

[Tugga27]

Not really sure where this should go so I'll put it here.

Tigers top AFL revenue ladder as Covid hits footy balance sheets
Richmond have been the strongest team on and off the field in the past year in the AFL, but Covid has many teams running losses. FULL TABLE

Covid cost AFL clubs tens of millions last year, with future disruptions set to disrupt balance sheets of even the strongest clubs in the competition.
Figures compiled by IBISWorld show that revenue for the 18 teams in the competition fell by 31.4 per cent last year to $762.7m as a hit to gate takings and associated revenue due to a Covid related lockdown hit the clubs hard.

The AFL clubs are still battling fixture changes and a cap on crowds during the current 2021 season, which is again having a marked effect on the balance sheet of many of the clubs in the competition after a tough 2020.

The AFL saw a 15 per cent decline in revenue in 2019-20, to $674.8m. “The AFL also reduced its total distribution to clubs by $83.8m, in an effort to mitigate losses,” said IBISWorld senior industry analyst Matthew Barry.


AFL financial league table 2020

Rank	Club	Revenue ($,000)	Profit ($,000)	2019 revenue rank	Revenue growth 2019-20
1	Richmond	73,955	218	2	-19.8%
2	Carlton	50,214	3,652	5	-29.4%
3	Brisbane Lions	49,692	3,073	8	-15.7%
4	Hawthorn	49,442	-497	3	-36.0%
5	Essendon	49,143	1,223	6	-28.9%
6	Collingwood	47,822	-1,807	4	-34.9%
7	West Coast	44,638	683	1	-56.5%
8	Geelong	43,802	-2,567	7	-27.2%
9	Fremantle	40,412	-1,065	11	-30.1%
10	Port Adelaide	39,684	-4,041	9	-32.0%
11	Adelaide Crows	38,391	-2,844	10	-34.1%
12	St Kilda	36,449	-963	16	-21.9%
13	Western Bulldogs	35,561	1,801	15	-24.0%
14	Melbourne	34,756	-3,690	13	-28.8%
15	Sydney	34,723	-6,100	12	-34.3%
16	Gold Coast	33,129	-953	18	-23.8%
17	North Melbourne	32,255	214	17	-27.7%
18	GWS	28,634	-7,266	14	-41.0%

Source: IBISWorld


Notably, the West Coast Eagles have fallen from first place in 2019 to rank seventh on the revenue ladder in 2020, with a 56.5 per cent decline in revenue given crowd restrictions in Perth last year. The Eagles are usually the most profitable football club in Australia, and with crowds returning in Perth this year are expected to post stronger financial results.

The remaining four clubs in the top eight on the revenue ladder were Victorian clubs, which have all faced declines in membership, match day and hospitality revenue due to extended lockdown restrictions in Victoria.

AFL supporters remained loyal to their club, with membership numbers only falling by 6.1 per cent in the 2020 financial year. The federal government’s JobKeeper wage subsidy also aided clubs through the COVID-19 pandemic, helping clubs retain and pay existing employees.

 

[Campaigner for good]

Interesting. Does anyone know if the AFL handouts are included in the revenue figures? There are a few teams higher on the list then I would have expected... Not the least of which is Carlton.

Also interesting to see the focus on revenue over profit.

Good to see that we still managed to generate a profit in spite of it all.

 

[DanWCE]

Nesbitt did say last year? that our deal with Optus is very heavily weighted on our ability to put bums on seats. When we don't fill the stadium, it has a huge impact on our finances, perhaps more than other clubs.

 

[Rowan18]

How the hell did the Bulldogs make a $1M profit? Hope the AFL is bumping them down to the lowest level of financial distribution, along with clubs like ours, Richmond and Collingwood.

 

[06Premiers]

Besides AFL handouts, what does the list look like when taking out pokies revenue??